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Key Insights

• Switch 2 decisively outperforms Steam Deck and PS4: The Steam Deck, with slower LPDDR5 memory and an AMD-based GPU, struggles at lower resolutions and frame rates and exhibits more visual artifacts with FSR3. The PS4, due to older CPU/GPU and mechanical drive storage, underperforms significantly. Switch 2's streamlining of GPU, memory, and SSD delivers a superior experience, making it the premier handheld for Cyberpunk 2077 at launch.
• Handheld mode is a necessary compromise but still effective. Lower GPU clocks and memory bandwidth in handheld drastically reduce resolution and detail, but thanks to DLSS, the Switch 2 maintains an image quality advantage over the Steam Deck. The handheld also benefits from a 120Hz LCD, which, although prone to ghosting, complements the frame targets and offers a smoother feel during gameplay.
• Visual artifacts remain but are manageable: Some issues, such as ghosting, occlusion artifacts, and shimmering, affect the experience, particularly during complex shadow and transparency rendering. However, these are less severe than on competing hardware, affirming the quality of Nvidia's graphics tech integration in the Switch 2.
• Potential for future improvements: While ray tracing is absent and locked 60fps mode is unachievable with current hardware due to the CPU bottleneck, the reviewer suggests possible future patches might enhance performance or visual features. This sets a positive expectation for Switch 2's third-party support moving forward.

Overall, the review presents the Switch 2 as a strong step forward for Nintendo's hybrid console line, particularly for demanding AAA titles, while acknowledging some compromises remain. The Cyberpunk 2077 launch performance demonstrates the console's considerable potential and solidifies its position as a competitive platform for modern gaming.

 

[Mr Moose]

Another one with PS4 and not the Pro?

 

[Dalbajobas]

Important to note CP77 without RT is nowhere near as demanding as the vast majority of current gen titles.

 

[Bitstream]

 

[GigaBowser]

game over

 

[Zacfoldor]

"Switch 2 decisively outperforms Steam Deck"

 

[Sebastian1295]

I just find it absolutely idiotic to compare a console from 2025 to one from 2014 and be like 'the 2025 console is better man' lol. I mean should we compare the switch 2 to a ps3 or ps2 as well lol. Come on.

 

[CloudShiner]

I just find it absolutely idiotic to compare a console from 2025 to one from 2014 and be like 'the 2025 console is better man' lol. I mean should we compare the switch 2 to a ps3 or ps2 as well lol. Come on.

It's the only metric they can use to claim a 'win'. Although as you rightly point out, what kind of a win exactly is that?

 

[Zacfoldor]

I just find it absolutely idiotic to compare a console from 2025 to one from 2014 and be like 'the 2025 console is better man' lol. I mean should we compare the switch 2 to a ps3 or ps2 as well lol. Come on.

To be fair, it decisively outperformed the Steam Deck as well. I'm sure they just threw the PS4 in because a lot of people have pretended the Switch 2 isn't better than he PS4 but apparently it is for Cyberpunk.

It's the only metric they can use to claim a 'win'. Although as you rightly point out, what kind of a win exactly is that?

What about the metric of the Steam Deck?

I'm glad we don't have to bring up that argument again. Everyone in this thread seems to believe it is crazy to compare PS4 to Switch 2 because PS4 is so old. So let it be, from henceforth, Switch 2 is decisively stronger than PS4.

 

[ValiantInstance]

I just find it absolutely idiotic to compare a console from 2025 to one from 2014 and be like 'the 2025 console is better man' lol. I mean should we compare the switch 2 to a ps3 or ps2 as well lol. Come on.

The PS4 comparison is irrelevant because of how architecture has progressed since those consoles launched. And DF look daft for sticking with the comparison for so long.

 

[Senua]

"Switch 2 decisively outperforms Steam Deck"

Steam decks old now

 

[Baemono]

I just find it absolutely idiotic to compare a console from 2025 to one from 2014 and be like 'the 2025 console is better man' lol. I mean should we compare the switch 2 to a ps3 or ps2 as well lol. Come on.

People compare something that runs on a battery to a home console. GBA was compared to SNES, DS was compared to N64, PSP was compared to PS2 (and was impressive because of that). That's normal. Nothing new.

 

[LordOcidax]

Another one with PS4 and not the Pro?

I thought it was PS4 levels? Not Pro.

 

[Topher]

"Switch 2 decisively outperforms Steam Deck"

 

[LiquidMetal14]

A decent 2025 handheld beats a 10 year old platform, great.

I also like these comparisons just for the interest in how all the HW alligns.

 

[ViperZombie]

Why do they keep comparing Switch 2 to Steam Deck and not the ROG Ally, the original Ally can be picked up for £400/£450 which is around the same price range as Switch 2 and has a newer APU than the Steam Deck.

 

[LordOcidax]

The best case scenario is vanilla PS4 level.

No shit

A Nintendo handheld console releasing in 2025 is going to be as worse if not worser than a mid-gen refresh released in 2016. Anyone who thinks otherwise is drunk on copuim and playing too much Zelda.

As I mention, with luck NS2 will be a base PS4.

Base PS4 with DLSS capabilities.

we'll be lucky if we get ps4 levels docked with this thing

Man, its been a while since we got a meltdown due to a console being weak. I look forward for it this year.

It's Nintendo.

You currently play on a PS3 level handheld in 2025.

Lol at the people expecting a PS4-level handheld.





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From Nintendo!

 

[rodrigolfp]

I can get 50+fps on Deck but somehow they can't. Plus another retard using FSR instead of XesS for less artifacts. -_-'

And the clown only showed Deck vs docked SW2. -_-²

 

[Dalbajobas]

Steam decks old now

Deck2 comes out nintendoos: "but but.... Switch2 is ALREADY 1 year old !!!"

 

[rodrigolfp]

Why do they keep comparing Switch 2 to Steam Deck and not the ROG Ally, the original Ally can be picked up for £400/£450 which is around the same price range as Switch 2 and has a newer APU than the Steam Deck.

Because the Ally can win in IQ + graphics + frame rate. Deck can only win in 2 of those.

 

[Fake]

Are you MIA in the Cyberpunk thread?

Because the DLC is not running good.

 

[LordOcidax]

Are you MIA in the Cyberpunk thread?

Because the DLC is not running good.

The DLC runs at 0 fps on base PS4… Next

 

[Mr. Wedgewood]

Cyberpunk 2077 on my 3.5 inch monitor

 

[Sooner]

"Switch 2 decisively outperforms Steam Deck"

You act like this is a surprise in any way.

 

[Pop]

Steam Deck does not run that bad with Cyberpunk

Faulty comparison

 

[Mr Moose]

And? Wasn't that the rumour at the time?
Let me go back even earlier for you:

Post in thread 'Leak: Switch 2 to use Orin T239 Nvidia Soc , PS4 and PS4 pro performance Without DLSS'

Aug 11, 2023

The PS4 is extremely weak by now, I dont think its that hard to believe but lets hope.

Yeah but it's still 3x as powerful as a current Switch, it's the Pro part that is making me doubt it. I would love it to be true, might get some decent AA in their games. Would love to play a great looking Mario Kart.

• Mr Moose

Being wrong in the best way, I'm OK with that.

 

[Fake]

The DLC runs at 0 fps on base PS4… Next

So this make the DLC runs better?

lmao. Fanboys never change.

 

[LordOcidax]

So this make the DLC runs better?

lmao. Fanboys never change.

As I mention, with luck NS2 will be a base PS4.

Base PS4 LETS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

[Guilty_AI]

So similar to deck in handheld mode but beating its IQ thanks to DLSS, runs better in docked mode.

 

[Zathalus]

Ah yes, let's use FSR and not XeSS, and compare the Steam Deck to the docked console. I thought NXGamer was supposed to be good at this stuff? Also do people just not know that XeSS actually exists on Cyberpunk and works well enough on the Steam Deck?

 

[Fake]

 

[SolidQ]

Ah yes, let's use FSR and not XeSS, and compare the Steam Deck to the docked console

Plus C2077 optimized for SW2, and steam deck doesn't have optimized version, just pc version.

 

[Senua]

Ah yes, let's use FSR and not XeSS, and compare the Steam Deck to the docked console. I thought NXGamer was supposed to be good at this stuff? Also do people just not know that XeSS actually exists on Cyberpunk and works well enough on the Steam Deck?

Nxgamer has a history of this shit, he's like the bizarro Alex Battaglia

 

[Sebastian1295]

It's the only metric they can use to claim a 'win'. Although as you rightly point out, what kind of a win exactly is that?

Like they should be comparing the switch 2 to the ps5 and series x. That's the generation it's currently in.

 

[Sebastian1295]

The PS4 comparison is irrelevant because of how architecture has progressed since those consoles launched. And DF look daft for sticking with the comparison for so long.

Ya the architecture is so vastly different that it's just pointless to compare. Ps4 was running on an hdd with a jaguar cpu but had a good gpu and ram for the time. The switch 2 should obviously be better than a console that came out when technology was vastly different.

 

[Sebastian1295]

People compare something that runs on a battery to a home console. GBA was compared to SNES, DS was compared to N64, PSP was compared to PS2 (and was impressive because of that). That's normal. Nothing new.

Compare it the ps5 and series x then. Comparing it to something that came out when technology and architecture was vastly different is pointless. I'd expect it to out perform something from 2014 with a jaguar cpu and HDD.

 

[Kataploom]

I agree that they should compare it to PS4 Pro, it's not losing against it either so why not? Maybe PS4 Pro is hard to find these days or something and most people had a base PS4 which is the one they're keeping? Not sure.

 

[Sebastian1295]

To be fair, it decisively outperformed the Steam Deck as well. I'm sure they just threw the PS4 in because a lot of people have pretended the Switch 2 isn't better than he PS4 but apparently it is for Cyberpunk.


What about the metric of the Steam Deck?

I'm glad we don't have to bring up that argument again. Everyone in this thread seems to believe it is crazy to compare PS4 to Switch 2 because PS4 is so old. So let it be, from henceforth, Switch 2 is decisively stronger than PS4.

I mean they can compare it the steam deck but i wonder if they're going to compare it to the xbox rog ally as well?

 

[Baemono]

Compare it the ps5 and series x then. Comparing it to something that came out when technology and architecture was vastly different is pointless. I'd expect it to out perform something from 2014 with a jaguar cpu and HDD.

People didn't compare the GBA to the PS2, they compared to the comparable power level. The Switch 2 is a 2-3 TF machine, not a 10 TF one. They compare it to what devices with similar power were doing.

 

[Axelon]

I absolutely dislike the Switch VS Deck wars. Other than some overlapping games they're nothing alike. Ones a handheld PC and the other is a handheld console.

Can I play Nintendo games officially on the Deck? Hell no.

Can I play old ass PC games from the 90s officially on the Switch 2? Hell no.

It's like comparing an SUV and a Truck. They can both do similar things, but they both have their completely different uses.

Cyberpunk wars is like -what- to me. If you want the play the game, play it on what you got. I'm not going to tell you to buy a Steam Deck if you have a switch 2 and vise versa.

If you're deciding on which one to buy then see above.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

I just find it absolutely idiotic to compare a console from 2025 to one from 2014 and be like 'the 2025 console is better man' lol. I mean should we compare the switch 2 to a ps3 or ps2 as well lol. Come on.

If the results were reversed, they would somehow be very important to the people saying this now.

 

[__SteakDeck__]

I just find it absolutely idiotic to compare a console from 2025 to one from 2014 and be like 'the 2025 console is better man' lol. I mean should we compare the switch 2 to a ps3 or ps2 as well lol. Come on.

PS4 released in 2013.

 

[Karim]

I just find it absolutely idiotic to compare a console from 2025 to one from 2014 and be like 'the 2025 console is better man' lol. I mean should we compare the switch 2 to a ps3 or ps2 as well lol. Come on.

It's not because they have similar raw power and it's useful to understand the state of the perfomance of a game if it's a good or a bad port. In this case it happens what exactly expected switch 2 shines in cross gen but it is redimensioned in current gen titles and requires a lot of compromises to run well.

 

[CobraAB]

Well, GTA VI will be a breeze for Switch 2 then!

Can't freaking wait!

 

[Loboxxx]

 

[Kururi]

I absolutely dislike the Switch VS Deck wars. Other than some overlapping games they're nothing alike. Ones a handheld PC and the other is a handheld console.

Can I play Nintendo games officially on the Deck? Hell no.

Can I play old ass PC games from the 90s officially on the Switch 2? Hell no.

It's like comparing an SUV and a Truck. They can both do similar things, but they both have their completely different uses.

Cyberpunk wars is like -what- to me. If you want the play the game, play it on what you got. I'm not going to tell you to buy a Steam Deck if you have a switch 2 and vise versa.

If you're deciding on which one to buy then see above.

Blame the steamdeck fans they thought they smelled blood but it's just a ketchup.

 

[justiceiro]

No thanks, I got plenty of disappointed faces in here:

 

[Generic]

Steam decks old now

Yes, it's 3 years old.

 

[Senua]

Yes, it's 3 years old.

Yup, and the deck 2 will be more powerful than the switch. Just the way of things

 

[Topher]

Blame the steamdeck fans they thought they smelled blood but it's just a ketchup.

That doesn't make sense. There have been more powerful PC handhelds than Steam Deck for a while now. The folks I'm seeing flexing here ain't Steam Deck fans. Switch 2 is a great handheld, but it has warrior fans just like any other gaming platform.