coachmcguirk91
Member
PC players really don't like cinematic games
Killjoy-NL
Member
Xbox output is just mediocre. The IP doesn't even matter.
Now that they are releasing on Playstation, it's becoming apparent how low the bar actually is on Xbox and how much GP is destroying the brand.
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fastest finger
Member
117.2K sales in a week on a platform with ~70 million units sold, for a game based on a gargantuan IP, that reviewed well with both critics and players, has won several awards and was nominated for others?
First person tho, innit.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
mathello
Banned
The Steam numbers would be higher by this logic.
Topher
Identifies as young
Indiana Jones ain't what it used to be, but I maintain that the game would have been much more appealing to a larger number of gamers if it had been in third person.
Eastwood_333
Banned
PS sells aren't great either. Nor was Hi Fi Rush. Seems like only Sea of Theives really took off on PS5. FH 5 should sell a couple million at least.PlayStation always winning
FrankWza
Member
Yeah. They limited themselves by going with a Dev that only does fp games. It's still a relevant and viable ip. In the right hands it should and could have been made to rival tomb raider and uncharted. Instead, the games it inspired are still the best in the genre.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I would have been all over this day 0 if it were third person. Now it's on a backburner for a deep, deep sale.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Eastwood_333
Banned
It's similar to Dishonored 1/2, Prey as well. People seem to not like sim type games
Topher
Identifies as young
I finished it on PC and would probably have double dipped on PS to platinum it, but......nah
RetroGamingUK
Member
I did warn people who had ridiculous expectations that Microsoft's franchises wouldn't be as huge as they expected on PlayStation
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
RDR2 is sim. KCD is sim.
People just need more hooks in their sims since usually it's a living world you need to be invested in.
Nydius
Member
Sort of the same boat here except Xbox/Game Pass rather than PC. Three achievements short of 1000, that I can't get because the cogwheel puzzle was bugged and I didn't feel like starting a whole new game just to navigate around that bug. I enjoyed it enough that I would play it again on PS, but not at full price. I figure I'll pick it up on PS this fall when it's in Black Friday sales.
Eastwood_333
Banned
I thought it sold over 2 million on PS5?
Killjoy-NL
Member
Maybe by now, but the only official numbers are 1+M back in august, 4 months after release:
Xbox published Sea of Thieves reportedly surpasses 1m sales on PlayStation 5
The once Xbox console exclusive Sea of Thieves has reportedly sold in excess of 1m copies on PlayStation 5. Plenty of sales and sails, really!
www.eurogamer.net
Still, 2M sales after a year isn't "taking off".
Xbox output doesn't have much pull outside of the Xbox eco-system.
Maybe Forza will do better at least.
Joel Was Right
Member
117.2K sales in a week on a platform with ~70 million units sold, for a game based on a gargantuan IP, that reviewed well with both critics and players, has won several awards and was nominated for others?
Doesn't matter how you slice it, those are abysmal numbers, almost to the point where I have a hard time believing them without disclosing all his sources.
zero advertising - they launched it too late
Insanemaelstrom
Member
I expect forza horizon to sell 3-5 million on ps5. Gran turismo crowd, who are ps5 only, would probably be keen to try it.Maybe by now, but the only official numbers are 1+M back in august, 4 months after release:
Xbox published Sea of Thieves reportedly surpasses 1m sales on PlayStation 5
The once Xbox console exclusive Sea of Thieves has reportedly sold in excess of 1m copies on PlayStation 5. Plenty of sales and sails, really!
Still, 2M sales after a year isn't "taking off".
Xbox output doesn't have much pull outside of the Xbox eco-system.
Maybe Forza will do better at least.
ReasonBeing
Member
No gamepass on PS, not surprising. Glad to see more people being able to play this. I love Machine Games, and was presently surprised with this game ( I wasn't too high on it pre-release.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Yeah, my guess as well.
Best-case scenario though. Though I expect the second (next) Forza to release on PS to sell better.
Eastwood_333
Banned
Game got raving reviews. Avowed reviewed well. FH5 reviewed well. Hi Fi Rush reviewed well. Most are goty caliber titles. Doom coming next month. To say that output is mediocre is outright fanboy nonsense
Killjoy-NL
Member
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Eastwood_333
Banned
Well, these are late ports. But PS5, like everything else, is all about Fortnite, COD, Marvel Rivals, Madden, NBA 2K etc... Even Astrobot sells are underwhelming and FF Rebirth sells were disappointingMaybe by now, but the only official numbers are 1+M back in august, 4 months after release:
Xbox published Sea of Thieves reportedly surpasses 1m sales on PlayStation 5
The once Xbox console exclusive Sea of Thieves has reportedly sold in excess of 1m copies on PlayStation 5. Plenty of sales and sails, really!
Still, 2M sales after a year isn't "taking off".
Xbox output doesn't have much pull outside of the Xbox eco-system.
Maybe Forza will do better at least.
AutomaticPrince
Member
I think the staggered release and launching in an absolutely stacked month hampered this games sales. MS might have to abandon the staggered release for anything they plan on going multiplat.
I hope it performs well enough to earn a sequel. I'm 80% done according to that little PS5 widget and while the game is a solid 8/10 for me, I'm just trying to finish it as fast as I can to get to Oblivion, Forza, Days Gone, and Doom in a few weeks.
I hope it performs well enough to earn a sequel. I'm 80% done according to that little PS5 widget and while the game is a solid 8/10 for me, I'm just trying to finish it as fast as I can to get to Oblivion, Forza, Days Gone, and Doom in a few weeks.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Why? Because he's showing the world how this game preformed on difference ecosystems?
Eastwood_333
Banned
That doesn't make any sense. That's like saying Astrobot is mediocre despite winning GOTY since reviews are just "opinions"
Killjoy-NL
Member
Astro Bot sold ~2.3+M copies in half the time of SoT, which is decent.
But that's a bit more than 117K, don't you think?
Astro Bot is a glorified tech demo.
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Eastwood_333
Banned
I don't think your Astrobot numbers are accurate.Astro Bot sold ~2.3+M copies in half the time of SoT, which is decent.
But that's a bit more than 117K, don't you think?
Astro Bot is a glorified tech demo.
Ok?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Astrobot sells are underwhelming? It was made on a sub $40 Million budget. And sold 1.5 million in 2 months at $60.
Zacfoldor
Member
Gamepass was never sustainable. PS5 sales is only a bandaid. Eventually gmepass will have to go. Without console subs to prop it up next gen, I don't know what MS is gonna do. They have a lot riding on the next console selling well, so it better not be $1,200 dollars or something....methinks they should not be adding steam to the next xbox at this point.
Everybody thinks there is some magic thing we don't know that is making gamepass be sustainable and make good business sense, but probably not. It's only vagaries and hope for a change in wind that will blow Microsoft's way. It is as we see. It can only be propped up for so long. It will have X number of quarters more to show results or they will re-evaluate. You think I'm full of shit but this isn't sustainable. MS is a running joke and that will not last. Something's gotta give.
Everybody thinks there is some magic thing we don't know that is making gamepass be sustainable and make good business sense, but probably not. It's only vagaries and hope for a change in wind that will blow Microsoft's way. It is as we see. It can only be propped up for so long. It will have X number of quarters more to show results or they will re-evaluate. You think I'm full of shit but this isn't sustainable. MS is a running joke and that will not last. Something's gotta give.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I believe it's called "the gamepass effect"
Eastwood_333
Banned
1.5 million seems underwhelming for a platform with 65milliom-70million and won GOTY by 90% of all outlets imo.
Indy was made by a small team as well
Goalus
Member
The 'Xbox' caption is not in the original image, so my question still stands. I know that the blue camp likes to fabricate data like you did here, but I am interested in facts.It's that white line at the bottom
Zacfoldor
Member
Astrobot is an evergreen title that will be a new game to every new PS5 purchaser. It's sales are not done yet. By the time they are I think you will be singing a different tune. Astro has got legs.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Same source as the one in OP:
Astro Bot has now sold more than 2.3 million copies
Astro Bot, PlayStation’s big 2024 exclusive wowed critics and PlayStation diehards alike with its mix of tight platforming and deep-cut cameos from the past 30 years of PlayStation.
alineaanalytics.com
Doesn't matter if you question Astro Bot sales though.
Indy clearly is a flop.
117K copies..
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
HeisenbergFX4
Member
How well has Expedition 33 and Oblivion sold?
Topher
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Little Chicken
Banned
Newsflash, there are more than double the amount of PS5s sold than Xbox consoles.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Day and date is a big factor, me thinks.
Puscifer
Member
I'm happy it wasn't inspired. I'm not interested in anymore buddy cop, that-just-happened style 30 minute walky talky quip fest. This game was the Chronicle's of Riddick 2 we never got
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Xbomba!
Zacfoldor
Member
It's true and PS5 fans don't need to worry. MS needs every extra red cent they can squeeze out of these flops to keep gamepass running.Maybe by now, but the only official numbers are 1+M back in august, 4 months after release:
Xbox published Sea of Thieves reportedly surpasses 1m sales on PlayStation 5
The once Xbox console exclusive Sea of Thieves has reportedly sold in excess of 1m copies on PlayStation 5. Plenty of sales and sails, really!
Still, 2M sales after a year isn't "taking off".
Xbox output doesn't have much pull outside of the Xbox eco-system.
Maybe Forza will do better at least.
I don't know wtf they are going to do next gen. Market has soured on them, they are also the "US" console which is probably unpopular more now than before the trade war, and also apparently they are adding steam to the console so the MS store may not be the platform of choice by many users. It may be Steam's next console too.
I don't know wtf they are going to do but they are not in a good spot right now. They also aren't gonna change their strategy back easily, since they ripped the heart out of their fanboys with the exclusive sharing.
Proper fucked if you ask me, but what do I know. If this is how bad Indiana Jones did imaging South of Midnight. I think Avowed actually had a mild fandom so I bet it did better than those 2. Low effort Oblivion reskin can rake in billions more in cash vs this full scale perfect indiana jones game, so I guess they better start remastering fallout 3 and new vegas at the same time. That would be my plan, lol.
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