Eastwood_333
Banned
Thanks for confirming what I said. Maybe if these idiot fanboys spent less time online, they'd actually buy and play more games
Eastwood_333
Banned
The IQ of most people on this site me thinks. These people are going far in life!
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
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Skifi28
Member
Fanboys don't play games I'm afraid, they just fight over them.
Killjoy-NL
Member
The game sold most on Playstation though...
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Mr Moose
Member
Oh no, it's not even self aware.
I think it's an age thing. As I've gotten older I don't care if game's are exclusive or not.
I understand the business side of an exclusive, but it doesn't matter to me if pc or xboys can play some playstation games.
I honestly couldn't care less
seb85
Member
Why would I ?
Killjoy-NL
Member
The problem is that a lot of people have a hard time distinguishing between business perspective and a gamer's/personal perspective.
Connificent
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Unknown?
Member
Indiana Jones had a trash movie recently and another trash one semi-recently but closer to being long ago. It just isn't a strong franchise. The good ones are 40 years old!
Oh i agree with that. Like I say I do understand the business behind them. I just personally don't care anymore.
I do think though that Microsoft are ahead of the times( not by design mind you, but out of necessity by being destroyed ) and that due to the shear cost of making games now, that more Sony games will be going to other platforms in the future.
FrankWza
Member
vaibhavpisal
Member
Will any one buy Half Life 3 from Epic games store?
Thats the phenomenon happening here.
Everyone prefers to play Xbox games via gamepass.
There are some PS only players that are able to buy it now. But they are insignificant. Compared to 5 million that were served via gamepass.
Thats the phenomenon happening here.
Everyone prefers to play Xbox games via gamepass.
There are some PS only players that are able to buy it now. But they are insignificant. Compared to 5 million that were served via gamepass.
DreamcastSkies
Gold Member
Really curious to see if someone else will step into the console business with the Xbox brand in this situation, but I wonder if it's just too late in the game for anyone to make a high end console that can compete with the Playstation. You wouldn't just be competing with the PS5 or PS6, your competing against the legacy of Playstation. Feels like Xbox is a publisher moving forward with a console they're keeping afloat, but while I think it's fair to say that Xbox consoles sell to an extent and have supporters, I don't know if MS views the performance of those consoles as successful and I don't know how long this strategy of continuing to make Xbox consoles while releasing all of their games on the competing system as well will go on for.
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Ritsumei2020
Banned
The answer to this question is also obvious.
They are raking in billions. Thats why they put their games on competing hardware, duh?
FingerBang
Member
They really need to launch these games on day one on PS5. I bet they'd sell even more.
Anyway, abysmal numbers for such a good game. I hope Game Pass is making enough money to justify it all.
Anyway, abysmal numbers for such a good game. I hope Game Pass is making enough money to justify it all.
Guardian Monkey
Member
Between marketing cost, development cost (hardware and software), and maintenance cost there are only a few companies that could bankroll it. We are talking billions and billions of dollars. Even mitigating those factors there are a lot of looming unknowns out there. There is a big push in the EU's DMA to allow alternative app stores and payment systems, which directly threatens their 30% commission models, if that chip falls, look for it to happens elsewhere. Cloud gaming will most likely eventually become mainstream, its just a matter of when. Now is not the optimal time to enter the console market.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I guess maybe it is an age thing as I recently turned 58 so maybe I too just don't care about the smaller things in life
I know many do, had people on these forums say they can enjoy a game more when they know no one else outside of their platform can play it
I don't understand that but its out there
Maybe by now, but the only official numbers are 1+M back in august, 4 months after release:
Xbox published Sea of Thieves reportedly surpasses 1m sales on PlayStation 5
The once Xbox console exclusive Sea of Thieves has reportedly sold in excess of 1m copies on PlayStation 5. Plenty of sales and sails, really!www.eurogamer.net
Still, 2M sales after a year isn't "taking off".
Xbox output doesn't have much pull outside of the Xbox eco-system.
Maybe Forza will do better at least.
Sea of Thieves sold around 10 million copies on Steam alone.
Does this mean you're counting Steam as part of the 'xbox ecosystem' ?
computergeek
Neo Member
ZoukGalaxy
Member
*pretend to be shocked*
Microsoft just want you to subscribe to everything for life.
Microsoft just want you to subscribe to everything for life.
Syphon Filter
Member
sony fans like woke games, not surprised.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Baemono
Member
*pretend to be shocked*
Microsoft just want you to subscribe to everything for life.
Game Pass will be dead before I die
MandingoMcThickens
Member
I strongly, STRONGLY disliked this game, and uninstalled it very shortly after it dropped into Game Pass. Got a few achievements and couldn't bring myself to suffer through more of it. Maybe it gets better later, but I'll never know. I'll also echo the sentiments of some others, Indy simply isn't a strong franchise. That's not to say it isn't a good franchise, personally I get the appeal, but
imo this is the biggest reason the game didn't light the world on fire. Way too much negative buzz around the IP due to the most recent movie releases.
FrankWza
Member
That's a bad outlook to have. But I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting a console to maintain a level of exclusives and exclusivity. The speculation was that going day and date would be a failure and it proved to be. A company backed by some deep pockets tried and failed. Just keep selling your 100 million consoles and high profit accessories in an ecosystem.
Ashamam
Member
Its kind of the same factor, thats why you would release day and date so you can ride the hype instead of having to sell in an environment where user reviews have more weight than influencers (oops sorry reviewers...).
Been saying since the whole 3rd party thing kicked off delayed exclusivity is a mistake, the only reason you would push it is to sell consoles, except they aren't really trying to do that so why risk much more valuable sales on games? I think at most they could probably get away with 2 weeks delay and still be in the marketing window.
Guardian Monkey
Member
Their game streaming platform isn't going away. Will it still be called Gamepass in the future, who knows. But subscription gaming service by MS isn't going anywhere.
Yup, Oblivion and Expedition 33 are also multi platform.
Something that's getting overlooked when looking at how great those games are doing.
It shouldn't be shocking that both of those games might sell alot more on PC and PS5. If some ppl still don't understand there are cons to Game Pass on the pros n cons list, I don't know what to say.
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The Pleasure
Gold Member
I won't pay
I won't pay
But Playstation gamers
Pay in a BIG BIG WAY
I won't pay
NO NO WAY
But watching YOU PAY
Won't get me laid.
I won't pay
But Playstation gamers
Pay in a BIG BIG WAY
I won't pay
NO NO WAY
But watching YOU PAY
Won't get me laid.
It's simply human nature to get tribal.
I think most normal people grow out of it.
Ashamam
Member
Unless they are 'harvested' for people who benefit from tribalism. As in join my drone army, you'll never have to think for yourself again! (Paid subscription may apply)
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Vick
Member
Nothing woke about this game.
There's a lesbian character in one of the main hubs, but that character and her relationship (mentioned like a couple of times in the full game) is the FULL extent of it.
We are talking countless text files, characters, a million lines of dialogue.. all pure in nature, driven by artistic intents instead of agendas. And we're surrounded by actual fascists and nazi, it would have been soooo insanely easy.. and yet this game actually respects the player's brain.
Felt so fucking refreshing, especially compared to many games apparently not "woke" on the surface but then plagued by all sort of full blown propaganda in its side content, these are the fucking worst and are everywhere these days.
But Great Circle is about as woke as Raiders of the Lost Ark is; all Gina does Marion did before. As woke as any of the LucasArts old games.
Skifi28
Member
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Of course it is. The console audience for this game is mainly on PS. Xbox install base is much smaller. Steam is over-saturated. 
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Like c'mon, if you're gonna make cheap drove-by posts at least be somewhat accurate. Cringe, dude.
Like, major cringe.
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LRKD
Member
We already knew that Playstation fans have bad taste, not a big surprise 
Seriously though, for at least Xbox it's easy to chop it up to PS having far more consoles on the market. For pc I think you have to assume, that either PC players have different tastes, or are PC gamers more careful on what they spend money on at full price. Put it at $5 on steam, and a pc player will buy anything even if they have 0 interest in playing it. But $70, suddenly they are far more cautious then console players imo.
Seriously though, for at least Xbox it's easy to chop it up to PS having far more consoles on the market. For pc I think you have to assume, that either PC players have different tastes, or are PC gamers more careful on what they spend money on at full price. Put it at $5 on steam, and a pc player will buy anything even if they have 0 interest in playing it. But $70, suddenly they are far more cautious then console players imo.
Vick
Member
Moriarty1889
Member
No surprise there. Ps5 owners actually support buying games. Gamepass has cannibalized game sales for Xbox to the point of no return. What a time to be alive where PS gamers are helping to support Xbox franchises.
