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[LakeOf9]

At this point, Concord looks like it might end up being a colossal flop, when its free to play open beta numbers registered lower CCU peaks than even an unreleased Valve game in closed beta, or the Sega game Hyenas, which was literally canceled over the poor numbers.

Meanwhile, on PS5, it was in the ~300th position on the charts, meaning it's not doing better there either.

This game looks like the first high profile failure Sony has had in a very long time - probably the first since The Order. It might also be the biggest first party failure since... Crackdown 3? Redfall? (Trying to think of high profile first party failures, and I don't think Nintendo and Sony have had many in recent years - the benchmark has to be MS, right?)

Do you think Concord is doomed to fail? And will it be a big failure? Remember, this was a brand new studio, and Sony was so impressed with what they were seeing that they bought out the studio and the IP. It has to be considered a big misstep internally surely?

 

[Punished Miku]

Seems pretty similar to Destruction All-Stars.

 

[LakeOf9]

Seems pretty similar to Destruction All-Stars.

I guess that was billed as a much smaller scale release than this will be

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

I guess that was billed as a much smaller scale release than this will be

This game isn’t as AAA as you think it is

I doubt it cost more than $50-100M to make

 

[Loomy]

The game needs to be f2p, and they need to be more focused on game modes that actually work. Needs more time in the oven. There's potential.

 

[Davevil]

no one cares

 

[LakeOf9]

This game isn’t as AAA as you think it is

I doubt it cost more than $50-100M to make

Again, Sony bought out the entire studio and IP. Even if the investment in development alone wasn't that high, the overall money put into this project has to have been higher than was sunk into Destruction All Stars. Comparing this to that seems misguided.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Really happy to see this game fail. I hope the studio closes and the game gets cancelled before release. These people don't deserve to make games.

 

[LakeOf9]

Really happy to see this game fail. I hope the studio closes and the game get cancelled before release. These people don't deserve to make games.

???

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Internet has developed a habit of dancing on the grave of few recent titles, thanks to Suicide Squad and Redfall. This game is undergoing a similar cycle.

I don’t think it will be biggest flop, but it will be most explosive flop, that will shook industry and do unrecoverable damage to the brand.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

???

I think I was pretty clear.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Again, Sony bought out the entire studio and IP. Even if the investment in development alone wasn't that high, the overall money put into this project has to have been higher than was sunk into Destruction All Stars. Comparing this to that seems misguided.

Buying the studio is a different analysis.

They are a talented team, they can work on a new project or help Bungie and make the acquisition cost work long term

 

[Gojiira]

At this point, Concord looks like it might end up being a colossal flop, when its free to play open beta numbers registered lower CCU peaks than even an unreleased Valve game in closed beta, or the Sega game Hyenas, which was literally canceled over the poor numbers.

Meanwhile, on PS5, it was in the ~300th position on the charts, meaning it's not doing better there either.

This game looks like the first high profile failure Sony has had in a very long time - probably the first since The Order. It might also be the biggest first party failure since... Crackdown 3? Redfall? (Trying to think of high profile first party failures, and I don't think Nintendo and Sony have had many in recent years - the benchmark has to be MS, right?)

Do you think Concord is doomed to fail? And will it be a big failure? Remember, this was a brand new studio, and Sony was so impressed with what they were seeing that they bought out the studio and the IP. It has to be considered a big misstep internally surely?

Lets not compare it to Redfall…Like at all, Redfall failed on every level, Concords failure is the saturated market and tone deaf designs.

 

[LakeOf9]

I think I was pretty clear.

if it had been, I would not have asked for clarification

Internet has developed a habit of dancing on the grave of few recent titles, thanks to Suicide Squad and Redfall. This game is undergoing a similar cycle.

I don’t think it will be biggest flop, but it will be most explosive flop, that will shook industry and do unrecoverable damage to the brand.

Which brand?

 

[Ristifer]

I keep forgetting Redfall even exists.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

100M is a colossal flop. I think we are losing grasp of how much money this is.

Concord, Fairgames and the cancelled Factions are financial black holes that should get someone fired.

 

[Flabagast]

Sure hope this game fails

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

don’t think it will be biggest flop, but it will be most explosive flop, that will shook industry and do unrecoverable damage to the brand.

Whose brand are you talking about?

Firewalk has no brand other than concord

 

[ComputerBlue]

 

[SEGAvangelist]

if it had been, I would not have asked for clarification

You posted a question mark to a clear statement. These devs made crap that no one wants and should be fired. I think it's pretty simple.

 

[Pelta88]

These threads remind me of Helldivers 2 Pre release.

 

[LakeOf9]

These threads remind me of Helldivers 2 Pre release.

lol ok

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

It’s worse than Redfall.

 

[Aenima]

Really happy to see this game fail. I hope the studio closes and the game gets cancelled before release. These people don't deserve to make games.

 

[hemo memo]

It’s worse than Redfall.

Oh wow.

 

[MDSLKTR]

It might even start a curse. Personally I want the mc score to be less than Days Gone.

 

[tmlDan]

why are there so many threads on this game, people are obsessed lol

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Oh wow.

And at least with Redfall you could make the excuse that most people played on Gamepass. Concord beta was free. And they intend to charge $40 for the final release LMAO

 

[LakeOf9]

It’s worse than Redfall.

Yup, this is what I have been saying (though maybe the full release changes that)

why are there so many threads on this game, people are obsessed lol

It's an upcoming major release and people are discussing it? Were you upset when threads on Hellblade 2 or Starfield or Redfall were made too?

 

[Dazraell]

why are there so many threads on this game, people are obsessed lol

Don't worry. No one will even remember this game has launched in a few months from now

 

[The Mad Draklor]

Just the trailer alone must have costed a lot of resources and money. The initial impressions were overall negative and the beta did little to quell those negative impressions.

 

[tmlDan]

It's an upcoming major release and people are discussing it? Were you upset when threads on Hellblade 2 or Starfield or Redfall were made too?

This is a live service game, it has less investment and less influence on sony as single player titles do. Also, it's from a new studio, all the games you listed are from established studios.

Seems odd for you to care when they have no history

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Wish I could see inside firewalk studio. A cemetery probably has a more positive atmosphere right now

 

[Guilty_AI]

It'd have to compete with Destruction All Stars and MAG... wait a second what do these three have in common?

 

[SEGAvangelist]

why are there so many threads on this game, people are obsessed lol

Because it's hard to fathom how the game actually got to this point. It's a complete failure for everyone involved.

 

[tmlDan]

Because it's hard to fathom how the game actually got to this point. It's a complete failure for everyone involved.

its not hard to fathom at all tbh, most live service games end up like this

Whether they start off hot and die or die all together

 

[Punished Miku]

I don’t think it will be biggest flop, but it will be most explosive flop, that will shook industry and do unrecoverable damage to the brand.

So you're saying it might ... clog up the industry's plans?

 

[DenchDeckard]

It’s worse than Redfall.

 

[adamsapple]

Wish I could see inside firewalk studio. A cemetery probably has a more positive atmosphere right now

 

[Nydius]

This game isn’t as AAA as you think it is

I doubt it cost more than $50-100M to make

It's "AAA" enough that Sony dedicated almost a full third of their May State of Play to it.
100M is still considered a triple-A budget.

But I do agree with you that Sony will eventually recoup their purchasing costs by making Firewalk a "support" studio for other projects.

 

[Punished Miku]

Wish I could see inside firewalk studio. A cemetery probably has a more positive atmosphere right now

When you don't even make an avatar for it, you know they're fucked.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

its not hard to fathom at all tbh, most live service games end up like this

Whether they start off hot and die or die all together

It's not just the GaaS stuff. It's the kind of game they chose to make (typical hero shooter), the awful and woke character designs, the obvious post-End Game Marvel Cinematic Universe inspired personality, AND not launching F2P. The game should have been cancelled a long time ago, yet still got to this point. That's just insane.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

It's "AAA" enough that Sony dedicated almost a full third of their May State of Play to it.
100M is still considered a triple-A budget.

I think that was more about not having anything much else to show at the time than anything else.

 

[PeteBull]

It might even start a curse. Personally I want the mc score to be less than Days Gone.

Sellout journos did their best to cancel days gone and it was and still is very good game, with concord they will have to be harsh coz after the beta/overall reception on the net any1 praising that game is akin to guys praising redfall/suicide squad, aka its obvious they are super biased
I expect at max 65metascore but game doesnt even deserve 50 tbh

 

[Killjoy-NL]

One positive about this, is that it sends a clear message to Sony about how people feel about Woke.

It'd have to compete with Destruction All Stars and MAG... wait a second what do these three have in common?

MAG was amazing though.

 

[DenchDeckard]

what is the size of this studio? the game was in dev for 6 years right?

 

[Bring Back Scalebound]

It genuinely doesn't matter if this game flops or not...
It's such a nothing burger.

Game in a overpopulated genre. With zero going for it.

And the audience that is being made for, are not going to play it. Because that audience doesn't play video games to begin with, they are colonizers.

Regardless if it will flop or not, it will be completely forgotten. People will be talking about Overwatch, Valorant, so on, for decades to come.

Concord will be in the trash bin of gaming history.

 

[tmlDan]

It's not just the GaaS stuff. It's the kind of game they chose to make (typical hero shooter), the awful and woke character designs, the obvious post-End Game Marvel Cinematic Universe inspired personality, AND not launching F2P. The game should have been cancelled a long time ago, yet still got to this point. That's just insane.

omg relax on your narrative its so tiring, I don't care. Just like you shouldn't care that the game is dying/dead so they learn this "lesson".

It's not that serious, there are other games that fail that have no DEI and hot "cool" characters.

 

[cireza]

If video-game means entertainment, then they are definitely succeeding at entertaining us. More fun than 90% of modern AAA games, and you don't even have to play/buy the game !

 

[Killjoy-NL]

what is the size of this studio? the game was in dev for 6 years right?

150 people in 2023.