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[LectureMaster]

In a reply to someone wondering why some games are exclusive and others aren’t.

“ I just wanna know why Xbox wants to knee-cap games like Hellblade 2, Avowed & South of Midnight?

Whats the point of keeping those exclusive & allowing Indiana Jones, Doom & Outer Worlds 2 to be multiplat?

Let them all free Xbox, why the schizo strategy?”

“I heard they consider hellblade exclusivity a mistake”

 

[tronied]

Nobody would have played it anyway. It's a great graphical showcase but that's about it.

 

[LectureMaster]

 

[Bernoulli]

He is scanning the ocean for Hellblade 3

 

[Cakeboxer]

If you obviously don't care about selling hardware [anymore), you should stop making (timed) exclusive games immediately. Just bring all games to PS5 day1.

 

[Negotiator101]

Nobody would have played it anyway. It's a great graphical showcase but that's about it.

It's a compelling experience that's underlined by a brilliant acting performance, the notion it's just graphics and nothing else is absolute rubbish.

 

[Fess]

Maybe. It stirred up more negativity, but also got more hype. Might’ve been a 6/10 meh release nobody cared about as a day 1 multiplat.

I enjoyed the playthrough though. Was a feast for the eyes and the intensity of the fights were amazing. Just too many puzzles and too slow, replay value = zero.

 

[Rocky_Balboa]

I enjoyed the playthrough though. Was a feast for the eyes and the intensity of the fights were amazing. Just too many puzzles and too slow, replay value = zero.

Yeah, I've thinking of playing it but I haven't gotten to it yet. The walking simulator feeling is not something I am looking for in y games, so maybe I will skip it. At this point the graphics are the only reason I would play it.

 

[coachmcguirk91]

I would never play this game, but there is definitely a portion of Playstation users that would have bought it for the graphics. The game bombed pretty horrifically on Steam. CCU peak of like 2k or something

I'm guessing Microsoft thought it would be really bad marketing to hype Hellblade 2 as this big exclusive that was revealed alongside the Series X in 2019 and bring it to PS5 day 1. Especially when Xbox had literally no games for the first 9 months besides HB2 in May

 

[onQ123]

Now they should just make a new Heavenly Sword

 

[DenchDeckard]

I think what ms are learning is for the best chance of Narrative online success you need to make every game multiplatform and as close to launch as possible.

There is such a hatred for microsoft from a certain group on the Internet that every game is met with so much disdain that it hurts the actual product and chances of success.

When you have an army of devoted microsoft and xbox haters doing everything they can to show steam reviews, review bomb, spread that all titles are mediocre etc. The average person that MAY have given your game a shot shrinks because they just naturally think that the games can't be that good.

It will take unimaginable feats of 90 plus releases to break through this noise.

The other option is bring those loonies on side.

If possible.

This is far from the only reason but it's deffo one now.

 

[Astray]

Now they should just make a new Heavenly Sword

Sony owns that brand iirc.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Heh. It's a glorified tech demo. Even going multiplatform this thing won't sell.

Today for the first time in God knows how long I saw someone buy an Xbox Series X at an electronic store near me. The saleslady telling the customer: 'These don't sell anymore. It's more PlayStation 5's'. Customer gives her and me an awkward look like 'Should I still get this thing?'

Just gave him a nervous laugh and moved on. Old timer didn't know that any device nowadays is an Xbox

 

[GymWolf]

The game was a mistake alright...

 

[onQ123]

Sony owns that brand iirc.

I said what I said

 

[ProtoByte]

Wouldn't have made the slightest difference.

In fact, it is the LACK of exclusivity that holds back titles like Hellblade 2. Before the multiplatformist utopians dogpile this comment, consider this: Why has Xbox not been able to put out a genuinely FANTASTIC game from a first party studio since around 2015-2016?

 

[Kenneth Haight]

When you have an army of devoted microsoft and xbox haters

This is such melodrama, it’s hilarious. Some sort of conspiracy theory against poor old Xbox . Make good games and consoles and people will buy them, the equation has never changed.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

If hellblade 2 was a free demo, I would be asking for a refund

 

[coachmcguirk91]

I think what ms are learning is for the best chance of Narrative online success you need to make every game multiplatform and as close to launch as possible.

There is such a hatred for microsoft from a certain group on the Internet that every game is met with so much disdain that it hurts the actual product and chances of success.

When you have an army of devoted microsoft and xbox haters doing everything they can to show steam reviews, review bomb, spread that all titles are mediocre etc. The average person that MAY have given your game a shot shrinks because they just naturally think that the games can't be that good.

It will take unimaginable feats of 90 plus releases to break through this noise.

The other option is bring those loonies on side.

If possible.

This is far from the only reason but it's deffo one now.

That's an interesting take that I have not thought of. Vitriol for the company will definitely die down if Microsoft just becomes a 3rd party publisher with hardware

 

[FunkMiller]

It was barely a game, so I don’t think it would have mattered all that much.

 

[DenchDeckard]

This is such melodrama, it’s hilarious. Some sort of conspiracy theory against poor old Xbox . Make good games and consoles and people will buy them, the equation has never changed.

Maybe I spend too much time on here?

 

[Borowski_1]

Yes

Don't make the same mistake with Avowed, Gears, Perfect Dark ertc

Bring them all across

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

I think what ms are learning is for the best chance of Narrative online success you need to make every game multiplatform and as close to launch as possible.

There is such a hatred for microsoft from a certain group on the Internet that every game is met with so much disdain that it hurts the actual product and chances of success.

When you have an army of devoted microsoft and xbox haters doing everything they can to show steam reviews, review bomb, spread that all titles are mediocre etc. The average person that MAY have given your game a shot shrinks because they just naturally think that the games can't be that good.

It will take unimaginable feats of 90 plus releases to break through this noise.

The other option is bring those loonies on side.

If possible.

This is far from the only reason but it's deffo one now.

 

[winjer]

There is no huge demand for a tech demo with little gameplay.
Even if the game was already on the PS5, it would not increase sales all that much.

 

[DenchDeckard]

There is no huge demand for a tech demo with little gameplay.
Even if the game was already on the PS5, it would not increase sales all that much.

This is true but I think it would have been accepted more as a sequel to the original game and kind of more of the same in scope and style if it just released on everything day one.

 

[Panajev2001a]

I think what ms are learning is for the best chance of Narrative online success you need to make every game multiplatform and as close to launch as possible.

There is such a hatred for microsoft from a certain group on the Internet that every game is met with so much disdain that it hurts the actual product and chances of success.

When you have an army of devoted microsoft and xbox haters doing everything they can to show steam reviews, review bomb, spread that all titles are mediocre etc. The average person that MAY have given your game a shot shrinks because they just naturally think that the games can't be that good.

It will take unimaginable feats of 90 plus releases to break through this noise.

The other option is bring those loonies on side.

If possible.

This is far from the only reason but it's deffo one now.

Or… bear with me… MS and its army of evangelists that could see no wrong in what Phil did and always blamed something or someone else might learn a new word… accountability.

 

[Sebastian1295]

I think what ms are learning is for the best chance of Narrative online success you need to make every game multiplatform and as close to launch as possible.

There is such a hatred for microsoft from a certain group on the Internet that every game is met with so much disdain that it hurts the actual product and chances of success.

When you have an army of devoted microsoft and xbox haters doing everything they can to show steam reviews, review bomb, spread that all titles are mediocre etc. The average person that MAY have given your game a shot shrinks because they just naturally think that the games can't be that good.

It will take unimaginable feats of 90 plus releases to break through this noise.

The other option is bring those loonies on side.

If possible.

This is far from the only reason but it's deffo one now.

Microsoft already has the loonies on their side and it's done them no good.

 

[Klayzer]

Or… bear with me… MS and its army of evangelists that could see no wrong in what Phil did and always blamed something or someone else might learn a new word… accountability.

How can PlayStation fans, have so much power to control destinies. Yeah, that's the reason why Xbox is failing.

 

[BigLee74]

Looked great, but overall was very much a mid 6.5/10 effort.

I actually much preferred the first game.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I think what ms are learning is for the best chance of Narrative online success you need to make every game multiplatform and as close to launch as possible.

There is such a hatred for microsoft from a certain group on the Internet that every game is met with so much disdain that it hurts the actual product and chances of success.

When you have an army of devoted microsoft and xbox haters doing everything they can to show steam reviews, review bomb, spread that all titles are mediocre etc. The average person that MAY have given your game a shot shrinks because they just naturally think that the games can't be that good.

It will take unimaginable feats of 90 plus releases to break through this noise.

The other option is bring those loonies on side.

If possible.

This is far from the only reason but it's deffo one now.

Yes and MS has no one to blame but themselves. They bring on this hatred largely due to the small but very cultish following of liars that they have cultivated who kissed the ass of MS every single year without doing anything to demand better games.

Xbox and 360 (pre-2010) was great because it was one of those rare moments in MS history when they had gamers with a business sense running Xbox. After Peter Moore and Shane Kim left, Corporate MS guys like Mattrick and Phil took over. They tried to fix every problem by throwing money at it.

 

[Robb]

 

[GHG]

I think what ms are learning is for the best chance of Narrative online success you need to make every game multiplatform and as close to launch as possible.

There is such a hatred for microsoft from a certain group on the Internet that every game is met with so much disdain that it hurts the actual product and chances of success.

When you have an army of devoted microsoft and xbox haters doing everything they can to show steam reviews, review bomb, spread that all titles are mediocre etc. The average person that MAY have given your game a shot shrinks because they just naturally think that the games can't be that good.

It will take unimaginable feats of 90 plus releases to break through this noise.

The other option is bring those loonies on side.

If possible.

This is far from the only reason but it's deffo one now.

 

[Wandering Leopard]

It was obviously niche, the gaming equivalent of an art house movie - which is fine as long as it had a relatively small budget.

But if it was a AAA game, it should've been multiplatform from the start.

 

[Sintoid]

Hellblade 2 was a huge mistake, unless you are investing heavily in a motion capture studio

 

[b0uncyfr0]

...Because it was a boring walking simulator and didnt sell.

What a suprise.

 

[Sentenza]

There is no huge demand for a tech demo with little gameplay.
Even if the game was already on the PS5, it would not increase sales all that much.

Case in point: the game was also available on PC and it's not like people were fighting to get their copy there, either.

 

[DenchDeckard]

No lies detected. You're one of em.

Which i think you'd be proud to admit.

 

[GHG]

No lies detected. You're one of em.

Which i think you'd be proud to admit.

Don't test me.

 

[RoboFu]

Why would they allow traditionally multiplatform games and a movie license to be multiplatform? Was that a serious question?

 

[Klayzer]

Don't test me.

 

[Darsxx82]

Jez Corden is, according to the majority of Neogaf, the most despicable person in videogames media, clickbait seeker, cosole warrior, without credibility...... but he is the person who is mentioned the most and whose articles and tweets generate the most threads on Neogaf...

I think it's clear who the winner is here...

 

[Killjoy-NL]

There is such a hatred for microsoft from a certain group on the Internet that every game is met with so much disdain that it hurts the actual product and chances of success.

Persecution-complex in action again.

What's funny, is that Hellblade 2 is literally the only Xbox game I'm interested in (outside of COD and maybe OW).
That has more to do with me liking Hellblade 1 though, but that aside.

But now it's a game I'd buy on some PS Store summer-sale or something.
Would've bought it full price if they had released it day 1 on Playstation.

 

[Astray]

The weird thing about Hellblade 2 is how Microsoft seems like it's completely averse to putting it on legit Steam key resellers like GMG or Fanatical. The Steam key can only be had on Steam itself, which just feels very counter-intuitive to me and kind of kills part of the point of having it on Steam.

Also weirdly enough, while checking deals.gg I found out it is currently on a %50 off sale on Steam, if they're willing to go down that much after less than a year, then I might wait a bit and see if it goes down to %70 or so before making a purchase.

Hellblade 2 was a huge mistake, unless you are investing heavily in a motion capture studio

That's a big part of why Microsoft invested $117m in Ninja Theory.. Because they already had built that motion capture studio before the buyout.

They're lucky they did too because Hellblade 2 clearly made zero money.

 

[Calverz]

The game was barely marketed and was on gamepass day one. What do they expect? They need to consider in the entertainment industry, marketing is massive. Until they actually just start marketing properly, their games will continue to sell shit and that includes ps5. They marketed in the 360 days and the games did good numbers. Mind share is hard to put a number on but is invaluable.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Don't test me.

Genuinely, dude. I really appreciate you as a member of this forum. You've helped me grow.

Merry Xmas time from one brit to another!

 

[Mr Moose]

Happy little accident. The game is boring.

 

[SJRB]

Wouldn't have made a difference.

The real mistake was letting that dev spend an ungodly amount of time and resources on a "game" like this.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

It's a boring walking sim that doesn't know when to shut the fuck up. The first one had novelty at least.

 

[Topher]

Jez Corden is, according to the majority of Neogaf, the most despicable person in videogames media, clickbait seeker, cosole warrior, without credibility...... but he is the person who is mentioned the most and whose articles and tweets generate the most threads on Neogaf...

I think it's clear who the winner is here...

The guy is at tabloid levels at this point. You are right. This is all self-promotion. I wouldn't say he is "most despicable", but he is damn close to being most notorious.

 

[balls of snow]

I heard every xbox only exclusive is a mistake sike.
Just rip the band aid. Getting Indy, Doom and Outer Worlds on ps5, but your more esoteric games can only play on xbox like what.