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[DemurOnion]

oh a 14 year old being silly

I really don't care at all what this person does as long as he doesn't kill or rape anyone. He just needs to slowly go away.

 

[WrenchNinja]

I do.

But unless something is said with actual malice, I have a hard time saying its 'hate speech'. Am I treating that term too literally or something? I'm not saying it isn't racist, just that 'hate speech' is something said with very direct intent.

Also, I did not realize the lyrics was about killing a black person. That makes it worse, although I still think him being 14 allows room for me to forgive.

Secondly, I never saw that graffiti. What the hell. He looks far older there. That's pretty awful.

Anyways, this'll be where I get tired of being ganged up on by the 'if you're not with us, you're against us' crowd. I'm off.

I thought the Indian American spelling bee thread was you just joking around but you really do seem to get into it when telling people what isn't racist

 

[DemurOnion]

I thought the Indian American spelling bee thread was you just joking around but you really do seem to get into it when telling people what isn't racist

He said hate speech there so in that instance I can agree. I also don't like when simple terms are suddenly given the term hatespeech and a felony to boot possibly. It's ethics/justice way beyond its borders to supply that whole thing there. It is racist for sure and should be looked down upon. But.... a whole social culture also uses the term and blurs its use for young idiots like Bieber

 

[shacklesmcgee]

you do this in literally every thread of this type


and then youre going to say "wow its getting hot in here, im leaving" when you get put to task

I do.

But unless something is said with actual malice, I have a hard time saying its 'hate speech'. Am I treating that term too literally or something? I'm not saying it isn't racist, just that 'hate speech' is something said with very direct intent.

Also, I did not realize the lyrics was about killing a black person. That makes it worse, although I still think him being 14 allows room for me to forgive.

Secondly, I never saw that graffiti. What the hell. He looks far older there. That's pretty awful.

Anyways, this'll be where I get tired of being ganged up on by the 'if you're not with us, you're against us' crowd. I'm off.

hahahaI laughed so hard my girlfriend had to ask me if I was ok.

 

[rokkerkory]

This dood needs to be jailed

 

[Ken Masters]

This dood needs to be jailed

I know, all 14 years who say stupid shit should be given the death penalty

 

[FrostuTheNinja]

I know, all 14 years who say stupid shit should be given the death penalty

Everyone would be dead.

 

[Captain Europe]

I grew up with some racist people and still never uttered filth like that, I knew they were in the wrong, and I'm pretty sure he knew what he was saying was wrong. Being 14 definitely doesn't excuse it, hopefully he knows better now.

The black community won't be outraged because they have been beaten down mentally over the past decades so much to point were they would defend or make excuses for supremacist views or statements from people who don't like them. Bieber is a supremacist plan and simple and he learnt it from his environment, like a lot of Europeans, not all but seeing how people on this site and other sites try to defend his supremacist ways shows you that there are a lot of people with similar views that they don't want to share. Because Bieber has black friends means jack shit, why put your bullshit conviction over possible millions? And anyone saying get over it, nigger is just a word like faggot, stfu because the two words have a history that can't be compared.

Wut? I'm pretty sure both words share a negative history and are still used as slurs these days, sounds pretty comparable to me.

 

[Eleventy_Million]

Whatever happened to the White House petition to kick him back to Canada?

 

[MC_Hify]

Just curious, how old are the people in this thread saying that being 14 is no excuse?

 

[shacklesmcgee]

Just curious, how old are the people in this thread saying that being 14 is no excuse?

Early 20's why?

 

[Messofanego]

you do this in literally every thread of this type


and then youre going to say "wow its getting hot in here, im leaving" when you get put to task

I do.

But unless something is said with actual malice, I have a hard time saying its 'hate speech'. Am I treating that term too literally or something? I'm not saying it isn't racist, just that 'hate speech' is something said with very direct intent.

Also, I did not realize the lyrics was about killing a black person. That makes it worse, although I still think him being 14 allows room for me to forgive.

Secondly, I never saw that graffiti. What the hell. He looks far older there. That's pretty awful.

Anyways, this'll be where I get tired of being ganged up on by the 'if you're not with us, you're against us' crowd. I'm off.

HOLY SHIT GODDAMN

 

[CrunchyFrog]

I can't believe I'm somewhat defending Justin Bieber as I don't like the guy at all, but in this context, he was only a 14 year old kid having an immature laugh (because its so obscene) with his friends. Stupid yes, but it wasn't planned to be aired to the world as actual meaningful hate.

I'm inclined to agree, as I hardly think he meant it to be taken seriously, but it's still in poor taste and just not funny in the first place. Also for crying out loud why the fuck would you record this? much less keep it around, what an idiot.

 

[Messofanego]

You must first comprehend that the starting point of that person is that of a justin beiber fan

Justin Bieber fans are crazy: Lie Witness News

These people can defend if he had tires on a Bentley made out of baby seals: "he can do whatever he wants, he's the King of Pop"

These people can defend him punching his grandma so hard in the stomach that she had to go to the hospital: "he's a boy and boys mess around a lot"

These people can defend him parking his car in a handicapped spot and not allowing a handicapped woman to take it: "I would actually make her wait because Justin Bieber is Justin Bieber"

BTW this was all over fake news. So, yeah. Fans be crazy, evidence be damned.

 

[Daingurse]

HOLY SHIT GODDAMN

OH MY LORD. At least he gave me a good laugh this evening, that's for damn sure lol.

 

[DryvBy]

So this is my competition on Xbox Live?

 

[Jado]

you do this in literally every thread of this type


and then youre going to say "wow its getting hot in here, im leaving" when you get put to task

Seanspeed jumps into literally every thread about race to say some variation of this:

Another example of the word 'racist' probably being thrown around too easily.

These tweets are awfully ignorant, but not really racist.

His concern for racists being outed is much higher than his concern for the people being affected by hateful language. People like him are allies to racists and need to be called out just as often as the ones who go on tirades yelling "nigger."

See below:

Defending racist cops:

I doubt its that bad. You don't notice all the cops that aren't harassing you, because they're leaving you alone. I think painting a majority of a group of people to be bad people based on a few bad experiences with them is exactly the sort of generalizing thinking that leads to racism and other prejudices. And I'm constantly amazed how little people realize that.

Also, yea, a lot of people wanting to shout racist all the time need to realize that there's cops that are assholes in general and aren't just being racist. Its annoying that a white person cant be an asshole to a black person without it being a race issue. Not saying the cop here isn't racist and isn't being motivated by racism, but we don't really know that.

Blames minoritiea for racism still existing -- because they identify and call out widespread patterns of racism and abuse from law enforcement. They're the real racists perpetuating racism.

I often hear people say stuff like, "How does racism still exist these days?"

And your post is exactly why. Because people generalize like this. Your rationale is no better than somebody who has a few bad experiences with some black people and finds themselves thinking that the majority of black people are bad people afterwards.

I've said it quite a few times before on this board, but we really need to attack prejudicial thinking as a whole. Its difficult because our brains are basically wired to generalize like this, but that can be overcome. The problem is that prejudicial attitudes are treated as ok in some cases and not in others. So people get the idea that 'racism' is the type of prejudicial attitude they should avoid, while saying that the majority of cops are scum is something perfectly fine to think and say. Its not right and its not fair, but worst of all, it lends credence to prejudicial thinking in general.

Defending the confederate flag and people who proudly display it:

Not everybody who displays the flag is doing so because they're racist.

A lot of people just show it for Southern pride, to represent the 4-wheelin, BBQ'in, shootin cans lifestyle they enjoy.

I agree its in bad taste no matter what, though. They should really find a better symbol.

General thoughts in a racist joke thread:

From what I've learned, basically everything and anything is racist to a lot of people. Its one of the most abused accusations thrown around because the meaning of the word has been grossly expanded to basically mean anything related to race, bad or not.

Defends Bieber in both instances in which it has been revealed he used the word "nigger."

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=114252877
I do think this is fair, even though the outrage brigade will condemn him for life for this.

And I don't like Bieber. I would love to call him an awful human being, and maybe he still is, but I don't think this one thing is proof of that. Its a bit different than somebody like Jeremy Clarkson saying it, for example. Kids are ignorant and dumb. But they can learn. I'm sure many of us are not the same people we used to be at his age.

AP poll finds majority of Americans hold some prejudice against blacks, goes into denial mode.

I can safely say this test is absolute bullshit.

According to it, I strongly prefer Hispanic people, then Asian people are kinda in the middle, blacks right below that and white people right below that. Which is whack. I can safely admit I prefer white people slightly, just because its in my nature to identify with my own kind. I would imagine most everybody else feels the same way if they're honest with themselves.

Its a test of memorization and pattern recognition more than anything.

Shame that people are taking it seriously and acting like half the US is racist. I rarely see overt racism. I think most people keep it to themselves or with people they're close to.

As expected, runs to the defense of Jonah Hill and others who use "faggot" as a general insult.

So calling a gay a 'faggot' to their face isn't any different than ribbing a buddy as a 'faggot'?

Not saying either is right, but these are honestly equally bad in your eyes? Severity and intent don't matter whatsoever?

Its crazy how some people see the world in such black and white sometimes.

Someone mentions frequent bad experiences in the South, Seanspeed runs to defend the South. The same pattern. He never once symphatizes/emphatizes. Just always dashes into threads to downplay discrimination, slurs and give convoluted explanations on the side opposite of whoever is being wronged.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=107115098

If you want to ignorantly generalize of tens of millions of people, including myself and many others on GAF that are from the south, go ahead.

Its exactly the sort of thinking that leads to racism in the first place, but surely you're above that sort of thing, being a highly so-phisticated northerner and all.

Defending "reverse racism":

Reverse racism usually refers to somebody of a specific race that are resentful of a perceived(true or not) prejudice against them by another certain race and thus become prejudiced against that race in return. It is quite literally 'reverse' racism and an apt name for it.

EDIT: I'm shocked at how many people are quite ignorant of what this term means. Was expecting somebody else to have hit upon this as well, but not one other person has. Its a pretty well known phenomenon that goes beyond just 'race'. This happens quite a bit in the Middle East with battles over territory and religious differences, for example.

Rant defending dudebros from the suburbs, a great example of what he never does when minorities get shat on (e.g. Indian Americans in the spelling bee).

Its really annoying to hear a college professor being so judgemental of a group of people. If there's one profession where we need more empathy and understanding, its teachers. These are all young people still. Anybody who has enjoyed popularity in high school probably isn't going to suddenly find it completely bottom priority 6 months later when they join college. People just dont change that fast. Some will, lots wont. Looking down on and generalizing this group of people really just doesn't help the situation at all.

Sorry for the off-topic mini-rant, but I found this really shitty to read.

Oh and professor, its 'ambition'.

Typical thread shitting (but what about anti-white racism!) in "Study Finds White Americans Believe They Experience More Racism Than Black Americans" thread.

Really ridiculous of course, but its fairly normal for people of any origin to always feel *they* are the persecuted ones.

I do think that anti-white racism is more common than people realize, though. I've been jumped for being white, I've been called 'cracker' in a disparaging way quite a few times, I'm pretty sure I was suspended from school because my black vice principal took the word of one black girl over the word of half a dozen other classmates who vouched for me in a 'fish-killing' incident. Again, I'm sure most black people experience worse than this, but when you're a decent person yourself and you experience this sort of thing, its hard to feel you're not the one being persecuted.

Edit: And these are only a fraction of his bullshit posts.

 

[Crumpet Trumpet]

welp

 

[Sai-kun]

 

[Dany]

DAY-UM.

 

[Abstruse Moose]

Well shit.

 

[Satch]

lmao yaaaaaaaas jado sis rip ha aparT

 

[Booty Patrol]

jado serving https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IYEVud6Cmf0#t=4 realness

 

[GCX]

Holy hell, Jado. Bravo.

 

[PsychBat!]

Post about calling out Seanspeed on his bullshit

It's a good thing someone has detected his pattern. GJ, Jado.

 

[Biker19]

I think that his career is basically finished.

 

[xbhaskarx]

Next he should buy an NBA team.'

Edit: maybe he could hire Seanspeed as GM

 

[SecretMoblin]

.

 

[botty]

Is Seanspeed a racist? I'm not familiar with his posting.

 

[FallingEdge]

Seanspeed has been buried. Damn.

 

[C4Lukins]

His music, personality and popularity have been so offensive that racism is almost refreshing and new as far as his catalog of horror.

 

[FreddieQuell]

Is Seanspeed a racist? I'm not familiar with his posting.

I'm going to go with yes.

 

[MWS Natural]

Fucking ethered.


We really need a term for racist sympathizers.

 

[JBourne]

Fucking ethered.


We really need a term for racist sympathizers.

White knights.

 

[cdyhybrid]

I love this post.

 

[Jado]

Fucking ethered.


We really need a term for racist sympathizers.

I've seen concern troll thrown around as a general term for people who constantly do this sort of undermining shit with a number of topics (race, LGBT, sexism, etc.).

 

[Gorillaz]

Jado might have an early Greatest ether of the year win

 

[CountAntonius]

Is Seanspeed a racist? I'm not familiar with his posting.

He does the same thing on gaming side. He just seems to enjoy playing devil's advocate and arguing the side most people won't.I don't see him get banned for it so I don't think he's doing anything racist as much as presenting an opinion that goes against the norm and maybe trying too hard to get others to see something other than outrage.

 

[hughesta]

Seanspeed's career is over.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

Seanspeed got exposed hard

 

[riotous]

White knights.

lol

M'racists.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

well dayum.

 

[Blood Diamonds]

rip seanspeed

 

[SuperAndroid17]

My god his hair was ridiculous.

 

[Zero315]

*Post full of ether*

I said GOT-DAYUM! Spill that tea!

 

[NEOPARADIGM]

I've had seanspeed on ignore for years.

 

[Dr.Guru of Peru]

Guys, if a 14 years old shoots someone will you just say "Well, at 14 they don't really know better. When he grows up he will understand why shooting people is wrong."?

It is not like 14 years old are THAT dumb to not know when something shouldn't be done or said or recorded.

Because this 14 year old is 20 now and (as far as we know) has not said anything similar since.

Like I said, its not the fact that he was 14 that gives Bieber a pass. Its the fact that he's 20 now. He's grown up and is a different person. What he did was wrong no doubt, but it was a mistake he made as a child. He's given the necessary apology and moved past it.

 

[Messofanego]

Seanspeed ether

OH FUCK

 

[Coreda]

Welp... there it is. Also, people have the right to be offended at such things without having to hear the whole 'but it shouldn't offend because ___'. It's pretty clear why it's offensive regardless of maturity/age/etc, especially here for goodness sake. People can change too, obviously, and hopefully he sincerely regrets his words, and understands the offense caused, and isn't just releasing the video to stop the blackmail threats.

I remember in a thread last year myself giving a celebrity the benefit of the doubt with regards to a dressing up as a black woman, as I thought they were clearly ignorant of the offensiveness caused and it didn't seem to have a willfully offensive/racist intent. However during the course of the thread I began to realize it isn't and shouldn't be about that and it certainly changed my perspective for the better.

White people are privileged enough to inhabit a space where it's a lot more difficult to do things that are racially offensive because they've been and continue to be the dominant culture. It doesn't matter if YOU don't think it's offensive or racist for a white person to paint their face black, it is insensitive at the least considering the history of race relations in this country and even worldwide. Did she mean to be racist? I'm sure she didn't. But that's how it comes across. A lack of ill-will doesn't excuse it. The best way you could spin it is that it's displaying extreme ignorance and insensitivity.

Some great posts that expressed offensiveness and racism are certainly not what a white person defines them as merely because they feel someone is ignorant or others should be more sympathetic towards. It's an issue that needs to be addressed and not glossed over because reasons.

 

[nib95]

Seanspeed jumps into literally every thread about race to say some variation of this:



His concern for racists being outed is much higher than his concern for the people being affected by hateful language. People like him are allies to racists and need to be called out just as often as the ones who go on tirades yelling "nigger."

See below:

Defending racist cops:



Blames minoritiea for racism still existing -- because they identify and call out widespread patterns of racism and abuse from law enforcement. They're the real racists perpetuating racism.



Defending the confederate flag and people who proudly display it:


General thoughts in a racist joke thread:



Defends Bieber in both instances in which it has been revealed he used the word "nigger."

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=114252877
I do think this is fair, even though the outrage brigade will condemn him for life for this.




AP poll finds majority of Americans hold some prejudice against blacks, goes into denial mode.



As expected, runs to the defense of Jonah Hill and others who use "faggot" as a general insult.



Someone mentions frequent bad experiences in the South, Seanspeed runs to defend the South. The same pattern. He never once symphatizes/emphatizes. Just always dashes into threads to downplay discrimination, slurs and give convoluted explanations on the side opposite of whoever is being wronged.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=107115098

Defending "reverse racism":



Rant defending dudebros from the suburbs, a great example of what he never does when minorities get shat on (e.g. Indian Americans in the spelling bee).


Typical thread shitting (but what about anti-white racism!) in "Study Finds White Americans Believe They Experience More Racism Than Black Americans" thread.


Edit: And these are only a fraction of his bullshit posts.

Woah…I said gat