K-Pop Fanboy/Fangirl |OT5| Controversies Over Nothing

I guess its different lol. Eh, long as its nothing drastic they can do w/e the hell they want. Then again now that I think about it, I never really pay attention to peoples noses haha.
 
So....last week was the last week Shindong could have been part of Super Show 6 before enlistment...and...not with my surprise, he cried every single day, especially the first one (Super Show 6 in Seoul was on Friday, Saturday and Sunday). His solo this time was a ballad(?), a song that was in the IRIS ost called "Don't forget me":
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Sunday concert was Super Junior and Shindong 100th concert. Curiously enough the only song in which he singed alone in his career is titled "Don't Cry":
Shindong ft Jessica and Leeteuk - Don't Cry
Song wasn't bad at all, I doubt many Girls Generation fans have seen this. As visible in this video, his eyes were fine, he was Lee So Man that suggested him to do the double eye lid surgery, if only there were people like the god member that I talked about before close to him instead of Lee So Man...anyway, talking about Super Junior I was actually able to listen to the last album on Spotify (all the new SM album seem to be available, I've listened to Taemin and TaeTiSeo too). This album have a completely different sound than "Sexy, Free & Single". Not many dance songs and more ballads/rnb songs which at least for me is much better. This is my favorite song from the album:
Super Junior - Raining Spell for Love
even Midnight Blues is not bad.
 
Defense Force? No need. Mere words cannot harm perfection. But I will gladly show you the light.

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Holy crap. I was glancing through the TV channels and I saw this beautiful woman on the screen... The name of the show is 님과함께 (It doesn't seem to have a official translation). The woman in there was truly amazing.

Since I never seen this before, the idea I got is that the show is about showing the interaction between a couple and their mother/father in law. This particular episode we had a woman from Japan (since the parents were japanese) and she was able to speak a good Korean...

I was so mesmerized that I had to look for her name. Turns out she was Sayuri, which is a very famous comedian and she was mentioned before in GAF and everyone here probably knows her already, but I never paid attention... Goddamn that face.

Bottom-line: Recommend me her best tv show appearances/dramas/movies/clips/whatever. Image dump would also be appreciated.
 
While their dramas are utter garbage, Korean movies set it apart by their creativity and the amazing stories that are injected in these not-controlled-by-media productions.

Before I recommend what I actually wanna recommend, I will recommend something I've seen long time ago and never mentioned here, it will be the best short movie of your life.

The name of the movie is Nice Shorts (2009, you know where to get it) and is a compilation of 4 small stories. I'm really interested in discussing them but I don't wanna spoil anything. The 3rd one REEEEALLY gave me the fucking creeps (no ghosts, rest assured).

Now...

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I'm watching The Moonlight of Seoul and there's something about this movie that I just love. Watching Korean movies are nice because in a place that is changing every freaking week, you can see how it looked like in 2002, 2005, 2008, etc. Some movies even give me an Scorsese vibe, with Seoul being this never-ending psychotic dream, with lives that are untouched by the superficial layer of society, since Koreans love to keep the dirt under the carpet... So much goes "unshared", a lot of things happens in the unknown parts of the city... not Itaewon, Hongdae or Shinchon... but the residential districts where people get together to drink and do their own shit.

Because my life is here now, this one hit close to home. The way people walk, talk, eat, behave... everything feels so... Korean. I think it is possible to watch most foreigner movies (let's say, the french ones) and be mesmerized and fascinated by what they produce without "effort", however to truly appreciate the subtleness of most of "real life drama" in Korean movies you gotta understand these people a little bit more.

Definitely give these two movies a chance.
 
Complex Q&A w/ Taeyang

How's the reaction been to your new album, RISE?

Taeyang: Luckily, the reaction has been very good. I'm happy about that.​

Are you happy with the music? Did it come out the way you wanted?

Taeyang: To be honest, it's a little different compared to the initial concept I had when I started the album.​

The last time we spoke, you said you wanted to make every track off the album as if it were a single. Did you fulfill that goal?

Taeyang: I've worked on numerous tracks and out of those tracks I've handpicked nine songs. I think each song definitely stands out, but as a whole, there are some elements that leave more to be desired.​

There was a four-year hiatus between RISE and your last solo album. Was that due to your record company?

Taeyang: There were definitely demands from the company. So it took longer to complete the project. We ended up making a diverse array of tracks. And those that were approved became a part of the album.​

There must be a measure of satisfaction now that it has finally been released.

Taeyang: I can never be satisfied. It took a long time for this comeback. I've wanted to showcase a lot more, because I wasn't able to put out all the songs I've worked on. There are some feelings of regret.​

If you have to pick out a specific song that stands out to you the most, what track would it be?

Taeyang: The last track, "Love You to Death." I think that sound best reflects my personal taste in music right now. Of course, I like all the tracks I have on the project, but my personal favorite is track nine.​

How did that track come about?

Taeyang: I worked on that record in Los Angeles with producer Happy Perez. I was out there with Choice37 and had a five-day session with Perez. We've worked on a lot of records together and I like all of them, but I felt like the sound of that particular record was new for the Korean audience. The company didn't like it that much, but I pushed it, and we ended up having that track on the album.
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Are there roadblocks in the Korean market because of your musical taste?

Taeyang: I wouldn't say they're roadblocks. It's more so a process of figuring out how to merge the sound I like for the market out here. My personal taste is closer to the underground.
​
What are you listening to lately?

Taeyang: It's been out for a while, but I like The Weeknd's Kiss Land a lot—though I definitely liked his mixtapes more than the album. I'm also a fan of SZA. Oh, and Michael Jackson's Xscape.
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You've mentioned how much of an influence MJ was to you as an artist. How did it feel listening to his posthumous album?

Taeyang: It was really sad. I felt very emotional listening to that album. I listened to "Love Never Felt So Good" and thought, "If Michael was alive, I wonder if he'd want to this be released." It was a mixture of various feelings. I was sad that he's no longer here with us. To me, the first single didn’t feel like a complete record. It felt a bit like a demo in terms of the sound and the lyrics. I was very happy to hear his voice though. I get inspired just by listening to his voice.
​
Let’s get back to your album. The lead single "Ringa Linga" came out in November 2013, but there were no more singles for the next seven months, when RISE was released.

Taeyang: Yes, you're right. To be direct with you…
​
Please be direct.

Taeyang: The company held it back. [Laughs.] But the fans know. The album was prepared back then, and starting with "Ringa Linga" we wanted to put out records one after the other, and then release the album. I don't think the company was certain about my album. The company asked me to work on more records, and because I wanted to put out this album so much, I concentrated on making more tracks. That's how the single "Eyes, Nose, Lips" came about.
​
I'd love to talk about the music video for that. It kind of reminds me of D'Angelo's "Untitled." But it is also refreshing because in K-pop, music videos are usually very fancy and loud. I like the fact that it was so simple yet detailed.

Taeyang: Yes, that's completely right. If you look at the tracks released from my previous album, either the performances were really flashy, or the video sets were very well-produced. But for a track like "Eyes, Nose, Lips" I wanted to make something simple. I felt like that was the best way to relay the record's emotion. So we decided on the idea of completing the video in one take. And people around me said I look better when I take my shirt off, so that made it more interesting.
​
It’s a great love record. Speaking of: What’s your real love life like as of late?

Taeyang: I can tell you that I don't really reminisce about my past relationships. I've been seeing a lot of…well, I wouldn't say a lot.
​
Nothing wrong with a lot.

Taeyang: Personally, if I like someone I'm pretty earnest with that one person. So I've dated only a few over the years. And you know, it's been really good. I'm not as much tied to my past. I've sought after newer emotions. And it's good to share those various feelings through music.
​
When you released your first solo album in 2010, there weren't many commercial K-pop artists with an R&B sound. As of late, singers like Zion T and Crush are helping popularize the genre.

Taeyang: I'm actually a big fan of Zion T and Crush. I think they're very impressive. They’re very clear about their artistic identities. It's not easy to pursue that style of music and gain a strong fandom in Korea, but they've been successful at it. And I applaud them. Especially Crush, I'm pretty close with him. We hang out, go out to eat, and I consider him a friend.
​
It's also interesting that both of your albums came out around the same time. Did you check out Crush's Crush on You?

Taeyang: Yes, I did. I thought it had a great R&B sensibility, and it also had this youthful energy that was very refreshing.
​
So what's the latest update on Big Bang’s music?

Taeyang: We're currently working on a new Big Bang album. If it's early, you'll hear something from us sometime in the fall.
​
What can the fans expect from this upcoming Big Bang release?

Taeyang: It's really hard for me to say. We're still in the process of figuring out what style of music we want for the group. So instead of having this grand theme for our sound, I think it'll make more sense for us to compile a collection of records and then figure out how we want to package it as an album.
​
K-pop is changing, it seems—there are more acts that can hold their own musically and I've noticed more artists with hip-hop influences.

Taeyang: There are definitely a lot more artists in K-pop now with strong individuality. And it's a great thing. Especially in the Korean music system, it’s not an easy feat. It's a slow process, but it's good to grow and develop those types of artists in the K-pop scene. Even myself, I believe that as an artist I should pursue more independent activities. If more artists believe in this and are active about it, they will be able to accomplish more on their own, without the influence of entertainment labels. So I think it's a very positive shift.
​
How long have you been with YG Entertainment, your record company?

Taeyang: About 14 years I think.
​
Wow, even for those who work regular office jobs, that's a pretty long time. Ever feel the need to move towards something of your own?

Taeyang: Realistically speaking, I still have about two more years left on my contract with the company. And it doesn't matter where I end up I'm going to do my best to fulfill my responsibilities. Plus, I've spent half of my life here at YG, so more than any other place in the world this is the most comfortable place for me. And there are too many people here that I love, and I've known since my childhood, so it wouldn't be easy for me to leave. But, as an artist, if the only way to improve myself were to leave this place, then I welcome that idea. I'm not talking about obtaining more fame or popularity. I'm talking about the artistic choices I have to make as a musician.
​
I don't think I'm at that point yet. I have a lot of concerns about how to go about my career moving forward. But if I can accomplish all those things here, then that'd be wonderful. At the same time, I do have concerns that might not be possible here. If I feel like I'm not influencing anyone here as an artist, I'd like to notice it before someone else tells me. Then I'll leave to pursue my own path.
​
Whereas American pop stars can continue dominating the charts in their 30s and 40s, K-pop stars tend to disappear at a certain age. Do you have any concerns about that?

Taeyang: Actually, I was very concerned about that when I was younger. But these days, I don't worry about it. When I look at the life of those artists I admire, I believe that age isn't a big factor. As long as I have the capacity to accept a wide range of music, and have the ability to produce and make new music, I think I'd be okay as an older K-pop artist.
​
There were a lot of articles about you at various fashion shows over the past year, but it seems like you’re keeping things more simple these days.

Taeyang: That's what I like. Keeping things simple. Beanie, gold chain, Timberland boots. The articles were regarding my appearance at events and fashion shows, when I had to dress up. But normally, I like to keep things simple. Lately, I've been wearing Converse Chuck Taylors and just Timberland boots.
​
Is there anything you'd like to add?

Taeyang: Nope, I think that's about right.​
 
Peru said:
So Baek Ah Yeon hasn't released anything in what, a year and a half. This is why artists leave JYP.
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it seems the only thing she's doing recently is performing covers at radio shows. I get the feeling Park Jimin and Baek Yerin won't release anything for awhile either. JYPE sucks
 
"Over 50 people charged for putting siren lights on idol vans in order to illegally speed through traffic" (AKP)

Media outlet dongA Ilbo has reported that on September 24, over 50 people were charged for putting siren lights on idols' vans in order to illegally speed through traffic.

One of the people charged is a 28-year-old road manager 'A,' who is said to manage a top girl group. He uses a van with siren lights in order to make it to the girl group's appointments on time. He explained, "Because of planned schedules, we can't help it. There was even one time when we sped back and forth between Seoul and Busan for four events in a single day."

On that day, A explained that on that day, he had to leave Seoul with the girl group at 5 AM for their performance in Busan. Afterwards, they left for Daegu and Daejeon for more events before returning to Seoul for one more round of events. As the Gyeongbu Expressway, which runs between Busan and Seoul, is 418 km (approx. 260 miles), A had to drive back and forth for a total of more than 836 km (approx. 520 miles) in one day. In order to cover that length quickly, A used sirens on his van to swiftly move through traffic. He stated, "By dashing through after opening up the road using lights and sirens, we are able to barely make it on time."

A road manager for nine entertainment companies, 17 executive members, car remodeling operator Mr. Kim, and 34 others people were charged for violating the Automobile Management Act. In their investigation, police also found that 16 vans which carried 15 different idol groups such as 4minute, T-ara,SISTAR, SECRET INFINITE KARA SPEED Boyfriend, etc. have a history of speeding.

Road managers have a tendency to speed when chauffeuring idols. It's probable that because the agencies pay for the speeding tickets, road managers overlook the possibility of getting fined. One road manager told dongA Ilbo, "For one performance, our singers receive 35 million won (approx. $33,570 USD). In one day, if we rush to three events, we get 100 million won ($96,000 USD). When the speeding tickets are only a couple of ten thousand won (couple tens of dollars), do they sound like a big deal?"

After the tragic death of Ladies' Code's EunB and RiSe, some entertainment labels have reflected on their past ways and have cut back on their speeding. Chrome Entertainment, which manages groups like Crayon Pop and Bob Girls, has removed their siren lights from their van while CUBE Entertainment, which manages 4minute and B2ST, has its veteran manager chauffeur around with the company chief officer sitting in the passenger seat.
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If you have to drive 830km in one day, maybe you need to better arrange your schedule?
Maybe use train or airplane? Maybe do proper maintenance for a van that it's been used 24/7?

Oh, yeah. Nobody gives a shit about Ladies Code, wait until a "major group" gets in a fatal accident.

Koreans learned nothing from Sewol.
 
Well, that escalated quickly.

If you are in the area, you can try to have a glimpse of TTS:

September 27: Incheon Airport Sky Festival 7:30PM
September 28: Holler Fansign at Incheon Shinsegae Department Store 7:30PM
October 1: Holler Fansign at Cheongnyangni Lotte Department Store 7:30PM
October 2: Holler Fansign at Dongdaemun Plaza 7:30PM
 
luso said:
Well, that escalated quickly.

If you are in the area, you can try to have a glimpse of TTS:

September 27: Incheon Airport Sky Festival 7:30PM
September 28: Holler Fansign at Incheon Shinsegae Department Store 7:30PM
October 1: Holler Fansign at Cheongnyangni Lotte Department Store 7:30PM
October 2: Holler Fansign at Dongdaemun Plaza 7:30PM
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Ok, I will go and try to photograph them... Even though Incheon is fuuuucking far. I should invite Nyorx.

EDIT: Holy fucking shit. 2NE1, Sistar and Girl's Day will also be there. Gonna install the Go Pro on my head because I'm sure I'm not gonna be able to photograph anything.
 
People trying to bash Seo?

She's the only one of the 3 who can even remotely pull off sexy. Tiff / Tae just look awkward. Seo got dem legs, and those pants looked great.
 
Hey, Tae can be sexy too. She's not a Hyuna but she can pull it off. Of course here image as the kid leader and cutest thing can influence the perception,

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TTS episode 3 subbed. Last part with Taeyeon. I know what she means. And one of the rare moments she opens up a little to speak about herself an her feelings.
 
Yuri has a weibo account so now we can see her having nothing to do but in Chinese instead of Korean.

giri said:
People trying to bash Seo?

She's the only one of the 3 who can even remotely pull off sexy. Tiff / Tae just look awkward. Seo got dem legs, and those pants looked great.
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luso said:
Hey, Tae can be sexy too. She's not a Hyuna but she can pull it off. Of course here image as the kid leader and cutest thing can influence the perception
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She's a 25 year old woman, not a child

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Peru said:
That's the 9m docu
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Oh shit, I didn't even bother to read the group name in large font.
Is it only getting released now in Korea? I had just assumed it already had considering it had a NA release and there seem to be a number of Koreans that refer to the slap etc when 9M/management articles come up.
 
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