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Kamala Khan getting doxxed in upcoming issue of Ms. Marvel

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LordOfLore

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Fun how every plot point gets revealed weeks in advance by Marvel nowadays.

In MS. MARVEL #15 on February 8, Kamala Khan finds herself, essentially, doxed by a member of her online community. Her identity revealed, she finds not just her own life in danger but the lives of everyone she holds near and dear as well.

Given Khan’s love of super heroes, we hope she can draw strength from the other champions of justice who have survived forced outings and lived to tell the tale.
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Ms. Marvel can look to other heroes who had their secret IDs revealed!


Hulk

An identity exposure that celebrates its 50th anniversary this year. In a back-up tale from 1967, Hulk finds himself accused of redirecting a missile towards a populated city and having to fight the aptly named Hulk-Killer as a result. Even as it is learned that Hulk did not cause the missile’s change in trajectory, the battle still rages on.

Then, after Rick Jones intercedes but fails to help, the “Strongest There Is” reverts to his Bruce Banner form. His mind his own once more, Banner figures out how to stop the Hulk-Killer and puts his plan in motion. He wins the day but the consequences of the fight prove far more complex than that. With his reversion, for the first time, Hulk’s alter ego has been revealed.

In the years that followed, this public identity would make Banner’s life a nightmare of being hunted by the government, especially Thunderbolt Ross, and never really being able to settle down or make connections with others without risking his own freedom and possibly their lives.


Iron Man

With mounting concerns about his privacy and loved ones, Tony Stark seized on a moment and, using a villain’s powers, erased knowledge of his identity from anyone who had ever known it. Besides a lecture from Captain America, the fallout proved minimal.

However, by the time IRON MAN #55 rolled around Stark realized he had to expose his identity—not just to a selective few, but to the world at large—to outmaneuver The Mandarin.

Unlike most of the other heroes here, Stark has done relatively well as an out hero since. Only while being hunted by Norman Osborn during Dark Reign did it appear that having no alter ego made life markedly harder for the Golden Avenger.


She-Hulk

Arguably the only hero with an exposed identity who has done better than Tony Stark, She-Hulk—aka Jennifer Walters—bowed to the reality of her transformations and decided to stop fighting them. Rather than attempt to awkwardly hid herself from the world as it became increasingly impossible, she simply decided to live as her green-hued alter ego.

The result has been a confident, strong, intelligent hero and lawyer who has largely lived in the Marvel Universe as she pleases, reaping all the benefits her super powers can provide her.


Spider-Man

Yes, Peter Parker stood before cameras and unmasked himself, but, much as with Iron Man above, it did not come as an enthusiastic choice. Instead, thanks to pressure by Stark himself, Spidey felt the need to reveal himself for the greater good.

As he began to question his involvement with the pro-Registration side of Civil War, Parker also began to realize the error of his choice. At first, it made him easier to hunt by the pro-regs for betraying Stark and his vision. Then, it made him and his family an ongoing target of numerous villains with grudges.

In the end, only a deal with Mephisto put that toothpaste back in the tube, saving Aunt May’s life and giving Spider-Man back his anonymity.


Daredevil

Simultaneously the scariest example on this list and the surest sign that being exposed can be overcome.

The Man Without Fear has lived through it four times now. The first proved a limited exposure, to Kingpin, and cost Matt his job, his apartment, his friends, his sanity, and nearly his life. And yet, he survived, earned back his license to practice law, and saw Kingpin brought low, thanks, in part, to what Fisk did to him in “Born Again.”

The second time happened because an overzealous reporter stole her mentor, Ben Urich’s, notes and sold the story he never would: that Daredevil and the blind lawyer from Hell’s Kitchen were one in the same. Murdock had to fake his own death, live as a grifter, and slowly lose touch with reality to escape the fallout. Thanks to Nick Fury and S.H.I.E.L.D., however, Murdock “returned” to life with a story about being asked to fake his death by S.H.I.E.L.D., seemingly completely discrediting as well the story that forced him into hiding.

The press pulled the trigger yet again and the resulting brouhaha found Murdock become increasingly angered until being incarcerated. With Iron Fist playing the part of Daredevil in the outside world and the real Hornhead’s own stubbornness, the secret identity business, somehow, once again fell out of the public’s attention. Not before Murdock’s wife Milla Donovan would be driven to a nervous breakdown by the DD villain Mr. Fear, however.

Lastly, Murdock admitted the truth himself, on the stand, to win a legal battle. This exposure forced him west to San Francisco for a time and into a rather daring red three-piece suit cum super hero costume. Recently, however, he has returned to New York City, secret identity once again under wraps due to soon-to-be revealed machinations.
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Will Kamala Khan lose her secret identity? Find out in MS. MARVEL #15 on February 8!
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You just said so, so I'm guessing yes?
 
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Sgt. Kabukiman

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Well, Lois Lane did it to Superman so why not, could be an interesting arc for Kamala. But yeah, Marvel does love to spoil every detail in advance.
 
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Palette Swap

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It's pretty annoying that they use spoilers as a marketing tool.
People should be reading it because it's a consistently great book, not because of these kinds of announcements.
 
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ZiZ

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I hope she gets to keep her identity secret. I like the stories happening around both her lives.

The writer G.Willow Wilson is an active MMO player, I think she mentioned something once about keeping her identity secret from her guild in Elder Scrolls Online.
 
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shingi70

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That article says Kamela can look to other heroes who has had their identities revealed, but Daredevil and Spider-man got retouched into not having public identities.
 
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Mindwipe

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shingi70 said:
That article says Kamela can look to other heroes who has had their identities revealed, but Daredevil and Spider-man got retouched into not having public identities.
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Indeed, I'd have written it as a snarky "she can follow them by having some incredibly bad plot device to undo it two years later when Marvel get bored!"

(See Nightwing, Tony the first few times, Spider-Man etc. At least Daredevil's has fessed up that most of the population would be at least still suspicious).
 
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Slayven

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DeathyBoy said:
Nice evasion, how many issues is that?

Because everyone acts like she's this big breakout star and I'm trying to quantify exactly how many sales she gets.
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Manmademan

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BattleMonkey said:
So how much is she selling?
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no one's really sure.

There are monthly estimates from diamond that show up in Comichron- she's about #115 for November- around where Gwenpool is.

Some titles (especially those that skew younger, or female) sell better digitally or in trades than they do in single issues. Anecdotally, Ms. Marvel is pretty strong in both but Marvel doesn't generally release sales numbers for those.
 
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Slayven

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Manmademan said:
no one's really sure.

There are monthly estimates from diamond that show up in Comichron- she's about #115 for November- around where Gwenpool is.

Some titles (especially those that skew younger, or female) sell better digitally or in trades than they do in single issues. Anecdotally, Ms. Marvel is pretty strong in both but Marvel doesn't generally release sales numbers for those.
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Bet she does better then Unreadable Squirrel Girl
 
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Volimar

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Every time I read the name Thunderbolt Ross, I can't fathom how he was made Secretary of State. Dude wasted so much money chasing the Hulk all those years.
 
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Sgt. Kabukiman

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Manmademan said:
no one's really sure.

There are monthly estimates from diamond that show up in Comichron- she's about #115 for November- around where Gwenpool is.

Some titles (especially those that skew younger, or female) sell better digitally or in trades than they do in single issues. Anecdotally, Ms. Marvel is pretty strong in both but Marvel doesn't generally release sales numbers for those.
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Weird, I thought she'd be way higher. She definitely has a pretty big following online though, I hope Marvel realizes that and will push her more in other mediums.

Not directly related but I just looked at the Comichron estimates after reading this post and I was happy to see that Wonder Woman is doing quite well (#10 sold above 60.000, which is close to Amazing Spider-Man), she used to sell quite poorly so I'm glad the current run is doing well.
 
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Mr-Joker

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In the end, only a deal with Mephisto put that toothpaste back in the tube, saving Aunt May’s life and giving Spider-Man back his anonymity.
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Along with other dumb moment like his marriage to Mary Jane being dissolved...yes I am still bitter over One More Day. ¬_¬;
 
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JC Lately

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Wait, so of the listed heroes in the OP:

Hulk (Banner) is dead.

Iron Man (Stark) is comatose.

Daredevil and Spider-Man's identity was retconed back to secret.

She-Hulk is PTSD-ing like a mofo post Civil War 2.

So... how is Kamala supposed to learn from these people...?
 
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Slayven

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JC Lately said:
Wait, so of the listed heroes in the OP:

Hulk (Banner) is dead.

Iron Man (Stark) is comatose.

Daredevil and Spider-Man's identity was retconed back to secret.

She-Hulk is PTSD-ing like a mofo post Civil War 2.

So... how is Kamala supposed to learn from these people...?
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What not to do
 
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GeeTeeCee

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JC Lately said:
Wait, so of the listed heroes in the OP:

Hulk (Banner) is dead.

Iron Man (Stark) is comatose.

Daredevil and Spider-Man's identity was retconed back to secret.

She-Hulk is PTSD-ing like a mofo post Civil War 2.

So... how is Kamala supposed to learn from these people...?
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Slayven said:
What not to do
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Sounds like staying as far away from Captain Marvel as possible would've fixed three of those things. That's a good starting tip.

Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku! said:
What superhero hasn't had their identity revealed?
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Has Batman ever had an unmasking that went public and lasted for a decent length of time, outside of Injustice?
 
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Manmademan

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JC Lately said:
Wait, so of the listed heroes in the OP:

Hulk (Banner) is dead.

Iron Man (Stark) is comatose.

Daredevil and Spider-Man's identity was retconed back to secret.

She-Hulk is PTSD-ing like a mofo post Civil War 2.

So... how is Kamala supposed to learn from these people...?
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Spider Man's identity has been "secret" since Brand New Day in 2008.

Has Batman ever had an unmasking that went public and lasted for a decent length of time, outside of Injustice?
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Kingdom Come Batman's identity is public.

I vaguely remember something about Batman having his identity outed around the time of the Batman, Inc. stuff- but it was passed off as Bruce Wayne just funding Batman or something.
 
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Sgt. Kabukiman

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GeeTeeCee said:
Has Batman ever had an unmasking that went public and lasted for a decent length of time, outside of Injustice?
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Not that I recall but in Batman Inc he pretty much admitted to funding Batman. And most government agencies within the DCU seem to be aware of his secret identity.
 
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BattleMonkey

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Volimar said:
Every time I read the name Thunderbolt Ross, I can't fathom how he was made Secretary of State. Dude wasted so much money chasing the Hulk all those years.
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Why does anyone live in New York? City is leveled every couple weeks, invaded, gang wars, turf wars, villain plot of the week ground zero, yet hey let's keep rebuilding it and living in the most dangerous place in the marvel verse
 
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Manmademan

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Slayven

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BattleMonkey said:
Why does anyone live in New York? City is leveled every couple weeks, invaded, gang wars, turf wars, villain plot of the week ground zero, yet hey let's keep rebuilding it and living in the most dangerous place in the marvel verse
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Still better than Madipoor
 
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