KILLZONE 2 - The |OT|
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Ok i understand. I was just wondering about itTTP said:
About the example i mentioned earlier, i did not get most of my kills throwing grenades into clusters of for example 16 players. I dont remember any exact weapons kills statistic from this round, but i didnt use the grenade or rocket launcher at least. I had maybe 20-30 (?) kills from using a mounted machine gun. I dont know how many grenade kills i had, but from what i can recall, i got most of my kills by using the ISA rifle, and i did aim. I didnt just shoot wildy into a crowd all the time hoping to get some kills. Maybe i did it sometimes, but far from all the time at least. The map i played on was Helghan Industries by the way.TTP said:
I guess it depends on how you define "playable", but to me the game felt very playable and i enjoyed playing this round
Sure, i dont say anything against that some people will quit because they feel that Killzone 2 is too caotic with 32 players, but i wondered how it was with people in general. When you say that they aborted playing Killzone 2, was this by playing 32 player matches or Killzone 2 in general? If it is about general, why didnt they try to play on servers that had less people playing on them? Especially if they are players who have much experience with online shooters.TTP said:
Come to think of it, since Killzone 2 is a relatively new game, it is actually not that long ago since we all were newcomers. The 32 players matches were pretty much the same when we were newcomers compared to how the 32 players matches are today, except today it seems to be less rocket spammers because several of servers arent allowing the Assault Class to be used, at least after my experience with the game.
That is true, but i would say it can depend on how which strategy you are using. Take Search & Destroy for example. Every 16 players on one team doesnt necessarily need to run to the same spot and try to plant the bomb at the same time. Some players can concentrate on keeping the enemy from gettin to the bomb site. I guess that this strategy arent used too much in public games though, but i think it could be possibleTTP said:
You have some modes that work pretty good with 32 players on the bigger maps, like Body Count and Capture & Hold works pretty good on Pyrrhus Rise, since then not all 32 players are trying to take over the same Capture & Hold stop at the same time, at least in my opinion.
What i ment by making the game easier wasnt that it is necessarily easier to get kills and much more easy to do the objective etc. As you say, "before even realizing what's going on", this sounds like you are talking about the big cluster fucks when there are alot of players at one spot, am i correct? If there are fewer players, there would be less (or at least smaller) cluster fucks, and wouldnt this make the game abit easier to play?TTP said:
The same is it with Search & Retrieve for example, if there are 10-16 player guarding the Search & Retrieve delivery zone, wouldnt it then be harder to deliver the propaganda speaker compared to if there are maybe 4-6 people who are guarding the delivery zone?
The game becomes easier (or "easier") to play when there are less people playing because then it is easier to be more tactical as you say, and you have a bigger chance to avoid big cluster fucks in the game. I could have explained this alittle better earlier, i am sorry about that, but do you see what i mean with the game being easier to play?
I agree that this is a possibility about what you say about the PR bulletpoint, but i dont know if this is the only reason. I think that Killzone 2 handles 32 players pretty good. There might be some slight lag and small framedrops now and then, but this hasnt been something that have ruined the gameplay experience or made the game unplayable for me (as the game drops to 10 frames pr. second for example, this hasnt happend to me). I am glad that there at least is an option to play 32 playersTTP said:
With no-respawn mode, do you mean that you wont spawn until the objective is finished, like in Counter Strike? If yes, a no-respawn mode might have been cool on the smaller maps, but i dont know how well it would have worked on the larger maps like Pyrrhus Rise. I recently bought SOCOM for the PS3, and i found it boring to wait for upto several of minutes after i got killed and waiting for the other players to die or do the objectives, epseically on the bigger maps :\TTP said:Edit: I'm officially out of KZ2 MP until they patch in a no-respawn mode / fix the spawn grenade / eradicate lag. Just saying. I know no one cares.
Are there any words on what the new Killzone 2 patch will fix by the way?
Fersis said:But you forgot that Insomniac sucks ,and R2 is the worst game ever 1!1!!
:lol
R2? I only complained about spawn points (lol this is a plague) in DM modes, and the lack of story and surprises (weapon placement along a fixed path) in the sp campaign. The rest was fantastic, I gave it a 9,5 just for the legendary coop.
R2 SP is average, R2 Online is amazingly fun.Lince said:
We should play some Superhuman CoOp someday. (Its really hard)
:lol Never change Kitton!Kittonwy said:The sad part is you said it like it's a joke but it's not.
Because it deserves to be said again..icechai said:we love TTP but he does not = everybodytake off your anti-32 goggles and there are quite a few ppl who like playing in them here and there (not all the time mind you, but good sometimes)
TTP said:
The more people on a map in this game, the worse everything gets. All it ends up doing is accentuating all the existing problems. "Clusterfucks with double the people you say!? Sounds awesome!"
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If i am not mistaken, all of these 4 games from Insomiac Games that you mention uses the same game engine (although the game engine have been improved over the years). Resistance 1 was also a launch game, which means that Insomniac probably worked something like 2 years on their game engine before the PS3 was released, but that is just a guess from me though. While the Killzone 2 development didnt start before in later 2005 or so?Lince said:
I am not saying anything negative against Insomiac Games here just to underline that. I am just saying that what one of the reasons why Insomiac Games managed to release those games within the same time period. But even what the reasons are, i still think it is an amazing achievement to be able to release that many games within the time that Insomiac Games did!
I dont think that 32 payers in Killzone 2 is a disaster. It can be pretty hectic at times, i agree to that, but i dont think it is a disasterGuessWho said:
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TTP noooooo! You should play more with us GAFe guys we just have a laugh when we play. Lince & I being all crazy, Cagen & I finding and annoying anyone who's Italia... uh oh.
I get delayed deaths when ever I play in US servers, EU is no problem so I usually stick to them. Unfortunately there's not many EU 16 players games at 5am :lol
Clan games are 50-50. Half the time they're fucking awesome, the most fun games you can have in KZ2. A small group of 4-6 working together with proper tactics. The other half they're just a lag fest and unplayable and just frustrating.
32 player games I only play when I'm sniping and they're a lot of fun then. You stay out of the mess and chaos and there's lots of ppl to take out. Got a 36 player kill streak the other today just casually sniping on SM. Could have gotten a lot more, the players in that game were really really bad. Only a couple came to flank me and I just M4'd em.
It can take me a while to find a game with settings and players to my liking, but that's gonna happen with such a team based game. If not I'll create a game and usually 6 or 7 gaffers will jump in pretty quick.
Overall tho when things go well, I find KZ2 to be more fun than any other shooter I've ever played. Just can't get enough of it. I started to get a bit burnt out around 90 hours after 125 hours in the Beta but I've gotten a second wind while playing regular clan games and then play public games in between just for some crazy fun with Lince, Cagen, Dezimator and the rest of GAFe/GAFA. I've played it til the small hours of the morning every day this week and it's the first game I load up when I turn my PS3 in the afternoon/evening. I've played the retail online for 190+ hours now and I don't see myself putting it down for a long while and I'm looking forward to more maps and and a lot more DLC hopefully.
I get delayed deaths when ever I play in US servers, EU is no problem so I usually stick to them. Unfortunately there's not many EU 16 players games at 5am :lol
Clan games are 50-50. Half the time they're fucking awesome, the most fun games you can have in KZ2. A small group of 4-6 working together with proper tactics. The other half they're just a lag fest and unplayable and just frustrating.
32 player games I only play when I'm sniping and they're a lot of fun then. You stay out of the mess and chaos and there's lots of ppl to take out. Got a 36 player kill streak the other today just casually sniping on SM. Could have gotten a lot more, the players in that game were really really bad. Only a couple came to flank me and I just M4'd em.
It can take me a while to find a game with settings and players to my liking, but that's gonna happen with such a team based game. If not I'll create a game and usually 6 or 7 gaffers will jump in pretty quick.
Overall tho when things go well, I find KZ2 to be more fun than any other shooter I've ever played. Just can't get enough of it. I started to get a bit burnt out around 90 hours after 125 hours in the Beta but I've gotten a second wind while playing regular clan games and then play public games in between just for some crazy fun with Lince, Cagen, Dezimator and the rest of GAFe/GAFA. I've played it til the small hours of the morning every day this week and it's the first game I load up when I turn my PS3 in the afternoon/evening. I've played the retail online for 190+ hours now and I don't see myself putting it down for a long while and I'm looking forward to more maps and and a lot more DLC hopefully.
AltogetherAndrews
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TTP said:
This is basically it. I was very supportive of the game during and after the beta, but I was also expecting them to actually fix the more blatant issues. Needless to say, I was very disappointed when I saw the same issues crop up in the retail game, to the tune of making me drop the game (that, and I hadn't experienced explosives spamming quite like this for some time). The murder-suicide thing in particular got on my nerves real fast, because I could have sworn this was a promised fix.
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JudgeN said:
NOOOOOOOOO! LINCE MUST STAY!
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So what's everyone's online score looking like? The highest person on my friends list is Lince with around 50,600 points. I have 47,000 points. What about everyone else? Does anyone have higher than Lince? 
I do play KZ2 several times a week.Kittonwy said:
Anyway , this is my cue to leave the thread.
Cheers
I play both R2 and KZ2, and i posted my list of 'complain' a long time ago.Kittonwy said:
(Tough none of the issues were changed :lol )
Bye man.
FFObsessed said:So what's everyone's online score looking like? The highest person on my friends list is Lince with around 50,600 points. I have 47,000 points. What about everyone else? Does anyone have higher than Lince?
what? u already broke into the 47's? I must play now! you're not going to overtake me!
/puts on Helghast assault clothes
/looks at the mirror, post-nuke war Santa would be jealous
/boost my way to the game
Great game last night. Got a score of 270 and made 2nd place. Just 5 points from first lol.
Anyway whats up Gaf East 2? No clan matches anymore? All me and ol painless play are 32player matches. She needs blood to lube her barrels.:lol
Wait a minute, Lince did I play with you lastnight?? did you beat me by 4 points in Radecs Academy?
Anyway whats up Gaf East 2? No clan matches anymore? All me and ol painless play are 32player matches. She needs blood to lube her barrels.:lol
Wait a minute, Lince did I play with you lastnight?? did you beat me by 4 points in Radecs Academy?
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It doesnt just sounds awesome, it is awesome!raYne said:
Hehe. Seriously though, i dont mind that people dont like 32 players matches, and i understand why they dont like it, since it can be many cluster fucks in the game, which might result in that the game feels "unplayable", but personally i dont think that 32 players is shitty. Out of my 450 rounds (or something around there at least) of Killzone 2, i would guess that something around 80% - 90% of these rounds are 32 players matches. I still enjoy the game, and i still think it is pretty fun I have over 200,000 points, my username is K1LLIONAIRE. Hehe just kidding, i have something like 21,000 pointsFFObsessed said:So what's everyone's online score looking like? The highest person on my friends list is Lince with around 50,600 points. I have 47,000 points. What about everyone else? Does anyone have higher than Lince?
How is it possible to get that many points that K1LLIONAIRE (or how you spell his nick) has by the way? Playing alot of Body Count?
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Chrange said:
MAG will be amazing.
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test_account said:It doesnt just sounds awesome, it is awesome!
I have over 200,000 points, my username is K1LLIONAIRE. Hehe just kidding, i have something like 21,000 points
He has literally ONLY played Bodycount, it's really weird. Can't believe he's not bored. 400+ hours I think.
FFObsessed said:So what's everyone's online score looking like? The highest person on my friends list is Lince with around 50,600 points. I have 47,000 points. What about everyone else? Does anyone have higher than Lince?
jeez, you guys are crazy
I have 21,157. About the cluster complaints on 32, yes it gets a bit crazy in s&d but doesn't it feel awesome when you defend it for the whole round? Or when you get that final plant with a few seconds left and your team keeps them away long enough for it to go boom? idk maybe i just like playing with more ppl (i never play the smaller maps in warhawk or CS unless its a match
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I really do not mind 32 player matches, as long as the rocket launcher/grenade launcher is disabled. Without the RL/GL its pretty comfortable on the larger maps, although I still would like spawn proximity limits to the goals.
Seldom do I ever get lag, but I guess I only play in my region.
I would imagine GG will continue to keep tweaking the game, and make things better as time goes on.
Seldom do I ever get lag, but I guess I only play in my region.
I would imagine GG will continue to keep tweaking the game, and make things better as time goes on.
Post in the GAFA thread in matchup and ask, Kittonwy will be your boss, no smoking in the toilets, the parking lot is not a storage area.RavenFox said:
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Ah ok. Ye, i wonder how some peole can play for so long. Killzone 2 has been out for about 51 days today i think? If he had played for 400 hours (or perhaps even more), that is an average playtime of about 7.8 hours every day for 51 days in a row. That is alot of playtime indeedFFObsessed said:
Ye, i agree, i think those situations that you mention about S&D are pretty coolicechai said:About the cluster complaints on 32, yes it gets a bit crazy in s&d but doesn't it feel awesome when you defend it for the whole round? Or when you get that final plant with a few seconds left and your team keeps them away long enough for it to go boom? idk maybe i just like playing with more ppl (i never play the smaller maps in warhawk or CS unless its a match
And about getting to plant the bomb when there is only a few seconds left, that can be so annyoing when it happends to your team hehe. If you have defended the area for like 20 minutes or so, and then the enemy manages to plant the bombs and blow up the target when there are only a few seconds left as you say, then i sometimes says something like "argh.. is it possible?" hehe Ye, i also think that GG will contunie to keep tweaking the game indeedtfur said:
I am wondering what the new patch will fix.
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Just checked test_account and he's actually played for 367 hours. The guy with the most has 457 hours. 
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Ah ok, thanks for checkingFFObsessed said:Just checked test_account and he's actually played for 367 hours. The guy with the most has 457 hours.
Then it is about 7.1 hours of play time in average every day for 51 days in a row, which i think is still alot of hours 457 hours is about 8.9 hours of play time in average every day for 51 days in a row. Is it possible to play this much? This is more than a full time job (8 hours each day, but then u usually have free on Saturday and Sunday). Maybe this guy have hosted some games and just let his PS3 run for many days in a row or so without playing all the time himself. But it is still alot of hours, no doubt about that
I have about 120 hours of playtime by the way =)
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I hope he stays properly hydrated!
test_account said:Ah ok, thanks for checking
457 hours is about 8.9 hours of play time in average every day for 51 days in a row. Is it possible to play this much? This is more than a full time job (8 hours each day, but then u usually have free on Saturday and Sunday). Maybe this guy have hosted some games and just let his PS3 run for many days in a row or so without playing all the time himself. But it is still alot of hours, no doubt about that
I have about 120 hours of playtime by the way =)
My assumption is that it's a shared system. Probably in some dorm room where everyone plays.
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I think it's great that people play KZ2 so much.
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FFObsessed said:
I wasn't so sure but after that GI article it sounds pretty incredible.
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I love Killzone 2. I was playing R2 last night, some competitive, but then I hopped onto co-op which is lot's of fun.
I went back to Killzone 2 online, and it's just a lot more fun for me. Don't get me wrong ,R2 is amazing, but mainly for the co-op which I still love playing.
I went back to Killzone 2 online, and it's just a lot more fun for me. Don't get me wrong ,R2 is amazing, but mainly for the co-op which I still love playing.
FFObsessed said:
My KZ2 love seems to be waning a bit. I tried to play last night, and I did have a good game or 2, but EVERY other game had ridiculously unbalanced teams. This problem seems to be increasing in frequency. Since I received my sanwa buttons, maybe it's time to return to SF4 for a bit.
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Yep, play clan games together. There are lots of 4 v 4's and such. Enter a few free ones to get going and work on some tactics. They're fun, when they're not unbearably laggy.
