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Kingdom Hearts Community Thread: Now everybody can be a Keyblade Wielder!
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Napalm_Frank
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Ni No Kuni langassa
.Well Nomura is trying to convince everybody that KH is now returning to home consoles so that kinda makes handheld games prolly not happen for a while (and Vita sales being what they are do not help for another big budget KH game). That said they have the goal to release a KH game every year and the focus apparently will be home consoles. So this year it obviously is KH 1.5 and next year most likely KH 2 HD. The logical thing you'd think would be these rereleases until they finally can get KH3 out but who knows how long that will take and what how long they are forced to come up with silly releases if they want to keep up with that KH game every year goal. If Osaka team (that did BBS and DDD) are working on KH3 (or whatever the next big game is called) then one possibility would be that they are aimin it for 2015 winter release to be the next KH game after KH2 HD.master_emman said:Any news about the next game from this franchise? I hope they release a similar BBS game in the Vita
This is all just speculation of course. Problems here are that some say Osaka team might not be suitable to make HD game alone but if they can get XIII Versus FINALLY out in 2014 for example they would probably immediately rush to help develop the next KH. And while Osaka can be quite fast developers as seen with DDD HD games tend to need much more work so 2015 winter is definately the earliest I can see such a game being released. And then there is the question where it will be released. PS3 will be quite old at that time but it is totally not out of question to do a PS3/Wii U/360 multiplat for example. And then there is the PS4/720 option. They probably have big enough userbase at that time but they would be even greater challenge for Osaka team. Let's see what happens.
All that said it certainly isn't impossible that they pretty much will do one more handheld spinoff anyway despite what they are saying just to give more time for HD console game development.
Paddington Bear
Member
Ni No Kuni langassa
Well Nomura is trying to convince everybody that KH is now returning to home consoles so that kinda makes handheld games prolly not happen for a while (and Vita sales being what they are do not help for another big budget KH game). That said they have the goal to release a KH game every year and the focus apparently will be home consoles. So this year it obviously is KH 1.5 and next year most likely KH 2 HD. The logical thing you'd think would be these rereleases until they finally can get KH3 out but who knows how long that will take and what how long they are forced to come up with silly releases if they want to keep up with that KH game every year goal. If Osaka team (that did BBS and DDD) are working on KH3 (or whatever the next big game is called) then one possibility would be that they are aimin it for 2015 winter release to be the next KH game after KH2 HD.
This is all just speculation of course. Problems here are that some say Osaka team might not be suitable to make HD game alone but if they can get XIII Versus FINALLY out in 2014 for example they would probably immediately rush to help develop the next KH. And while Osaka can be quite fast developers as seen with DDD HD games tend to need much more work so 2015 winter is definately the earliest I can see such a game being released. And then there is the question where it will be released. PS3 will be quite old at that time but it is totally not out of question to do a PS3/Wii U/360 multiplat for example. And then there is the PS4/720 option. They probably have big enough userbase at that time but they would be even greater challenge for Osaka team. Let's see what happens.
All that said it certainly isn't impossible that they pretty much will do one more handheld spinoff anyway despite what they are saying just to give more time for HD console game development.
I agree with this.
There isn't a doubt in my mind that KH3 will come out for Next Gen, it's Guaranteed. I doubt 2015... Since im pretty sure that is when FF16 will be released. But you never know, if they hightail it they might do it... but i'd almost rather we have to wait a bit than have them rush the most important game in the series
I may be booed out of here for saying this but if BBS2 was released for handhelds... I'd be ok with that. It doesn't mean that KH3 is being delayed, it just means that they want us to be able to have a KH game. It could totally be a game where you played as Mickey and Aqua in the realm of darkness since we pretty much have no idea what the heck happened down there. I'd love it haha.
You know what would be great?
KH2.5 having a secret movie for KH3 that required you to have also beaten KH1.5... That would be a sweet requirement haha
Napalm_Frank
Member
Some type of HD spinoff is quite possible also but that would be weird :lol. Imagine Osaka released a HD spinoff in 2015. Not a real KH3, more like a DDD but with HD graphics. That could serve as a ''practice game'' of sorts for them to show that they can handle next gen development.
CielTynave
Member
Looks like we've finally got the HD ReMix version of Dearly Beloved up.
Napalm_Frank
Member
I like how the tune is so simple yet is always good with so many different remixes. Tho for example BBS added a lot to it.
Simple and Clean I might say. Get it? ;D ;D ;D
The Birth By Sleep version of Dearly Beloved remains king, I see. Still a beautiful tune.
Xux
Member
I finally beat it after about thirty tries. Guess I wasn't expecting a fight revolving around Counter Hammer. Block also didn't seem to work against the twelve meteor attack the first few times so I kept losing trying to dodge it or heal after eating it.
Song's pretty pretty. Can't wait to hear Monstrous Monstro.
Meccanical
Member
Wait, has the music been remastered or something?
Meccanical
Member
If they remaster the whole soundtrack I just may have to get it.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Wow, KH is much more fun than I remembered! I have a feeling I'm really going to enjoy this KH challenge...
Napalm_Frank
Member
I think Dearly Beloved is the only new track and it will play in the start menu where you select between KH1, Re:CoM and Days.
R10Neymarfan
Member
Yep they redid some songs that cheated and used soundfont and ps2 midi
Blood Diamonds
Banned
I really liked The World That Never Was music alot.
Its battle theme name is exceptionally appropriate:
Scherzo Di Notte (Joke of Night)
Commit it to memory.
JP ver. axel ftw
Paddington Bear
Member
Ha! Got it memorized?
For standard mode you have to 100% the journal, which includes doing the minigames.
For Proud Mode, you just need to beat the story as all 3 characters and the final story.
HylianScribe
Member
So I was hoping we'd have the teaser trailer done by now (should be done this week), but the next episode of Gametrailer's show Timeline is covering Kingdom Hearts. I've played all the games in the series, but I confess I don't have the greatest grasp on the series' lore like I did with Zelda. I'm going through Wikia and various fan sites right now, but I wanted to reach out to get some help.
First, I'm trying to find any KH lore experts who would want to be consultants. In the Zelda episode, I had some people I knew in the community essentially look over the script a few times for accuracy and input. This time, it would be a bit more involved - like, from the very beginning I would want input rather than waiting until a script is done.
Second, what are the best resources for the most up-to-date lore info? Whether it's a book, a site with translations, or whatever. Basically, looking for the equivalent of a Hyrule Historia.
For the second part, you can post your answer here or feel free to PM me. If you'd like to be more directly involved, you can PM me with your contact info. At this point, you'd just be credited in the video, but if it seems like you might be able to contribute more to the writing side, there might be something in the way of monetary compensation. Basically, you need to know the series inside and out like I did with Zelda - like you're somebody who's already written extensively about the KH series.
First, I'm trying to find any KH lore experts who would want to be consultants. In the Zelda episode, I had some people I knew in the community essentially look over the script a few times for accuracy and input. This time, it would be a bit more involved - like, from the very beginning I would want input rather than waiting until a script is done.
Second, what are the best resources for the most up-to-date lore info? Whether it's a book, a site with translations, or whatever. Basically, looking for the equivalent of a Hyrule Historia.
For the second part, you can post your answer here or feel free to PM me. If you'd like to be more directly involved, you can PM me with your contact info. At this point, you'd just be credited in the video, but if it seems like you might be able to contribute more to the writing side, there might be something in the way of monetary compensation. Basically, you need to know the series inside and out like I did with Zelda - like you're somebody who's already written extensively about the KH series.
Napalm_Frank
Member
If needed I'd love to do some proofreading. Also if you want you could just post questions and stuff here and fans would love to answer them.
Honestly for one source to everything KH it's really hard to say. Most HC fans know the lore inside out but for some really deep down info for making of the games, pre release concepts and whatnot you'd have to know all the ten thousand old Nomura interviews and KH Ultimania books.
As for the lore, honestly I dunno any source for all in one info.
Oh and BTW you other dwellers: brace up for another gigapost coming soon. This time not about KH3.
Honestly for one source to everything KH it's really hard to say. Most HC fans know the lore inside out but for some really deep down info for making of the games, pre release concepts and whatnot you'd have to know all the ten thousand old Nomura interviews and KH Ultimania books.
As for the lore, honestly I dunno any source for all in one info.
Oh and BTW you other dwellers: brace up for another gigapost coming soon. This time not about KH3.
WeaponKnight
Member
You can count on me if you want anything. I won't volunteer to do any heavy work because I'm not that good of a writer, but feel free to ask any questions.
Paddington Bear really knows his stuff.
Paddington Bear
Member
I'd love to help! Ill PM you
What if I won't? Will you pay my hospital fees?
Napalm_Frank
Member
Just summon Tinker Bell in advance and you'll be fine.
Answer me this KH dwellers, annoyance #2!
What did Maleficent mean when she said in KH1 something like this:
''Will it be he who conquers the darkness, or will the darkness swallow him? Either way he could be quite useful.''
How would Sora be useful to Maleficent if he ''conquers the darkness''. What does that even mean? If he defeats the heartless? Bad for her. If he locks the keyholes? Bad for her. If he defeats her directly? Bad for her.
Silly quote. I just have to go with it sounding ''cool'' (and trying to make Maleficent sound like a Chessmaster trope kind of villain which she aint) and writers going with it without thinking about it too much
.Just summon Tinker Bell in advance and you'll be fine.
Answer me this KH dwellers, annoyance #2!
What did Maleficent mean when she said in KH1 something like this:
''Will it be he who conquers the darkness, or will the darkness swallow him? Either way he could be quite useful.''
How would Sora be useful to Maleficent if he ''conquers the darkness''. What does that even mean? If he defeats the heartless? Bad for her. If he locks the keyholes? Bad for her. If he defeats her directly? Bad for her.
Silly quote. I just have to go with it sounding ''cool'' (and trying to make Maleficent sound like a Chessmaster trope kind of villain which she aint) and writers going with it without thinking about it too much
Well unless im mistaken, she needed his keyblade up till the point Riku manufactured his own keyblade. So in this sense whether or not hes swallowed by darkess or not he is in fact "useful" but that statement was made null because she later didnt need him.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Where she needed his keyblade? All she needed was the princesess of heart to open the final keyhole. She had no idea that Kairis heart was inside Sora (it is implied she didn't know the hearts were needed to open it) and even if she did as far as we know Soras keyblade isn't able to release her heart, they needed to introduce the weirdo Rikunorts keyblade.
Maleficent refers to 2 plans the disney villains have. Princesess and keyholes. As far as I know Sora has no use for their princess plans and only harm for their keyholes plan. Unless we count the silly scene where Sora in wonderland distracts the Queen and soldiers enough to capture Alice and you'd think they could have done that with anyone or even better with the heartless. Or am I forgetting something?
Paddington Bear
Member
You are close but the princesses' hearts don't open the keyhole, they merely reveal its location.
You make an assumption that maleficent didn't know kairi's heart was inside Sora, however if Xehanort's heartless knew (which he did) than it is quite possible that Maleficent knew as well. In the end, it was only because sora was there that her plan succeeded and if he hadn't "conquered" the darkness to get there it wouldn't have worked out.
It may too have been that she wanted Sora to be involved with Riku since she controlled Riku and wanted the keyblade.
Ultimately the line shows that maleficent saw that Sora could be useful, even if she didn't fully know how. That makes sense since sora tends to work into the villains plans
SimpleGamer
Member
I always wished you could use Riku/
keyblade in the first kingdom hearts. That was a pretty cool looking keyblade.
ansem
Napalm_Frank
Member
Yes quite right it is to reveal the location. But yeah all she needed was the heartless to find the keyhole, she didn't need a keyblade. Maleficent was surprised/angry when it didn't work after she collected all princessess so she did think that was all she needed. We don't really know if Maleficent had any connections with Xehanorts heartless before he posessed Riku, she did have with the original Xehanort tho.
So my point is the plans she had shouldn't have involved Sora in any way. But you are correct, I can totally see this
making sense.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Actually I just rewatched the Hollow Bastion cutscene. Maleficent only gets angry after Riku shows with the keyblade but the whole thing is kinda weird. It feels you are right Paddington but at that point it is implied they actually have the keyhole right there and that the ''path is opened'' but even after that she whines about the princessess so they did need keyblade+princesses not only to show the location but to open it as well? I don't remember that being talked about anywhere else so it is kinda weird. So she reveals the location but isn't able to unlock it, and all the other keyholes in the game all the baddies wanted was to reveal it for the heartless. So heartless alone wasn't enough after revealing it? I dunno anymore.
Edit: after fast research this is what I found. Xehanorts VI report from Birth by Sleep:
On other news I wanted to do a gigapost today but ''sadly'' it got prostponed. I'm thinking about doing one about music of KH or the implementation of Disney elements.
Edit: after fast research this is what I found. Xehanorts VI report from Birth by Sleep:
So the keyblade Riku had was incomplete and indeed needed to open it so Soras wasn't of much use besides having Kairis heart. Well we can imagine that if Sora got killed or something you'd think their other plan at least would be ruined. It is just a little weird that I don't remember anything in KH1 telling that a keyblade was needed for the final keyhole, let alone such a special keyblade and only specified in BBS or am I wrong?
On other news I wanted to do a gigapost today but ''sadly'' it got prostponed. I'm thinking about doing one about music of KH or the implementation of Disney elements.
There's something seriously fucked up with either myself or this thread.
I just got myself a new PS3 to replace the one that's been broken for a year or so, and I'm now playing Tales of Graces F, and next up is Ni No Kuni. Great games both.
Yet I still want to start a new KH series playthrough right now.
Now that I thought about it, a grade shop like system would be goddamn awesome in KH.
I just got myself a new PS3 to replace the one that's been broken for a year or so, and I'm now playing Tales of Graces F, and next up is Ni No Kuni. Great games both.
Yet I still want to start a new KH series playthrough right now.
Now that I thought about it, a grade shop like system would be goddamn awesome in KH.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Wait for 1.5 buddy. Feels good when at long last you get to play da game in HD and new stuff. Western release can't be that far away.
Unless you start with BBS
.Napalm_Frank
Member
Aww cmon guys. Why'd you let the community die again when I finally got myself involved (hopefully that is not the reason :lol). I wanna post stupid stuff here but doubleposting makes me feel ronery .
Annoyances #3: Why does KH2 have so many friggin cutscenes where a character reacts to something before it happens. For example Roxas reacting to keyblade forming in his hand 2 seconds before it happens or some character pointing at something yelling ''look'' 2 seconds before anything happens. So jarring and weird. I can't be the only one who noticed this?
Nomura Fanservice Bingo Time! Predict silly/fanservicey things that will happen in KH series future:
-Yen Sid/Mickey and Master Xehanort have a keyblade duel Yoda/Emperor style.
-Sora/Riku and whoever get ridicilous looking armor
-Too much Lightning
-Ventus and Lea tag teaming
-Lightning and Cloud tag teaming
-Mickey, Donald and Goofy tag teaming
-Sora, Riku and Kairi tag teaming
-Xion appearance for no reason
-Roxas appearance for no reason
-Vanitas appearance for no reason
-Vanitas vs Sora
-Xehanort is Rikus/Kairis father
-Riku <3 Sora made canon
-Kairis grandmother is a keyblade master and true final boss. Will mutate into a heartless submarine in the 6th form.
.Annoyances #3: Why does KH2 have so many friggin cutscenes where a character reacts to something before it happens. For example Roxas reacting to keyblade forming in his hand 2 seconds before it happens or some character pointing at something yelling ''look'' 2 seconds before anything happens. So jarring and weird. I can't be the only one who noticed this?
Nomura Fanservice Bingo Time! Predict silly/fanservicey things that will happen in KH series future:
-Yen Sid/Mickey and Master Xehanort have a keyblade duel Yoda/Emperor style.
-Sora/Riku and whoever get ridicilous looking armor
-Too much Lightning
-Ventus and Lea tag teaming
-Lightning and Cloud tag teaming
-Mickey, Donald and Goofy tag teaming
-Sora, Riku and Kairi tag teaming
-Xion appearance for no reason
-Roxas appearance for no reason
-Vanitas appearance for no reason
-Vanitas vs Sora
-Xehanort is Rikus/Kairis father
-Riku <3 Sora made canon
-Kairis grandmother is a keyblade master and true final boss. Will mutate into a heartless submarine in the 6th form.
oh dear
"BUT SOREA, u were running aftr raiki all the time????"
"NO RIKU, it was actualy... U, i was running after!!"
WeaponKnight
Member
We had that scene in KH2.
Bu bu but Kairi was ok, guys! RIGHT?
Aww cmon guys. Why'd you let the community die again when I finally got myself involved (hopefully that is not the reason :lol). I wanna post stupid stuff here but doubleposting makes me feel ronery
Annoyances #3: Why does KH2 have so many friggin cutscenes where a character reacts to something before it happens. For example Roxas reacting to keyblade forming in his hand 2 seconds before it happens or some character pointing at something yelling ''look'' 2 seconds before anything happens. So jarring and weird. I can't be the only one who noticed this?
Nomura Fanservice Bingo Time! Predict silly/fanservicey things that will happen in KH series future:
-Yen Sid/Mickey and Master Xehanort have a keyblade duel Yoda/Emperor style.
-Sora/Riku and whoever get ridicilous looking armor
-Too much Lightning
-Ventus and Lea tag teaming
-Lightning and Cloud tag teaming
-Mickey, Donald and Goofy tag teaming
-Sora, Riku and Kairi tag teaming
-Xion appearance for no reason
-Roxas appearance for no reason
-Vanitas appearance for no reason
-Vanitas vs Sora
-Xehanort is Rikus/Kairis father
-Riku <3 Sora made canon
-Kairis grandmother is a keyblade master and true final boss. Will mutate into a heartless submarine in the 6th form.
Hahaha, in the one that i notice the most is when the light in the area you fight Zebranort appears Sora says look like 4 seconds before it appears
We are so getting Oswald as Mickeys Nobody.
Paddington Bear
Member
Aww cmon guys. Why'd you let the community die again when I finally got myself involved (hopefully that is not the reason :lol). I wanna post stupid stuff here but doubleposting makes me feel ronery
Sorry man, i almost posted yesterday but didn't have anything haha.
Hahaha, in the one that i notice the most is when the light in the area you fight Zebranort appears Sora says look like 4 seconds before it appears
We are so getting Oswald as Mickeys Nobody.
Dream = Reality
Napalm_Frank
Member
I kinda hope they have the balls to make lvl 1 run of proud mode a trophy but they'd prolly should give the guard ability at the start. Then again dodge roll does go a long way in KH1. Lvl 1 challenge in KH1 would be interesting for sure since you gain everything through leveling up unlike BBS and KH2. Lvl 1 runs would pretty much make the staff only logical choice since it gives +1 MP right at the start unless they changed it in FM. We should get the trophy list soon with japanese release coming.
Totally gonna try the challenge tho. Interesting to see how far I'll make it :lol.
Totally gonna try the challenge tho. Interesting to see how far I'll make it :lol.
WeaponKnight
Member
They could introduce Bonus Level in the game and rework the ability chart. That would take care of the lack of abilities but would screw the initial choice...
Paddington Bear
Member
Dude... I hope not haha. I actually want to get a platinum... not have it be out of reach forever