It also changes KH2 Sora. He wasn't killing heartless monsters, but actual beings.It was actually pretty clear in Days that they had hearts, but the confirmation actually made the game's story sadder.
It also changes KH2 Sora. He wasn't killing heartless monsters, but actual beings.It was actually pretty clear in Days that they had hearts, but the confirmation actually made the game's story sadder.
But at that point his heart had not succumbed.
Master Xehanort: Darkness rules your heart--it gives me control. Muscle and sinew that once obeyed you now rebels against you. How you can remain here at all confounds the mind.
Terra: It's still my heart. You think you can just come in and take over? I'm no gonna sit by and let that happen.
Master Xehanort: Hmph. Don't you entertain notion of escaping me, boy. In the end, your heart will be engulfed by mine forever.
Terra: I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me--even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss--you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it.
Master Xehanort: Brave words, to be sure. But I'm a patient man. We can take as much time as we need to settle this little property dispute. However, know this--You are just one of many roads that I might choose to take. Trust me, I made certain of that.
It wasn't until later that Terra fully lost control. Xehanort thought he had control, but he only had part. This also shows in the Aqua fight and in Xemnas's erratic behavior.
It also changes KH2 Sora. He wasn't killing heartless monsters, but actual beings.
As far as I know, the only thing Xehanort didn't have control over is Terra's mind, hence the Lingering Will fight. Also, isn't it suggested that Eraqus' light is the only thing protecting Terra?
edit: not saying u r wrong.
I actually noticed that Sora is a little dark in KH 2, in Port Royal he's excited to be a pirate and in Pride Pands he wants to become King and rule the Pride Lands. idk, there's something off about he way he acts in KH 2, he wasn't like that in 1.It also changes KH2 Sora. He wasn't killing heartless monsters, but actual beings.
Roxas gave him all that hate.Actually noticed that Sora is a little dark in KH 2, in Port Royal he's excited to be a pirate and in Pride Pands he wants to become King and rule.
If a organization member succumbs to darkness, does their replacement heart become a heartless? What happens to the old heart if they keep the new one? Do they have two hearts if they grow a heart and then reform? Was Axel given the rite of succession by Mickey since he should h ave gotten it from yen sid? What will Xion look like if she gets her own body if she can't exist at the same time as Sora unless she isnt connected to him and has her own heart?
Presumably Xion would need her own full set of memories (since precisely how she was taking away from Sora and Roxas was that she was absorbing their memories, and memories go a long way toward basically constituting who you are in KH).
If a organization member succumbs to darkness, does their replacement heart become a heartless? What happens to the old heart if they keep the new one? Do they have two hearts if they grow a heart and then reform? Was Axel given the rite of succession by Mickey since he should h ave gotten it from yen sid? What will Xion look like if she gets her own body if she can't exist at the same time as Sora unless she isnt connected to him and has her own heart?
He's defiantly a lot cockier in KH2.I actually noticed that Sora is a little dark in KH 2, in Port Royal he's excited to be a pirate and in Pride Pands he wants to become King and rule the Pride Lands. idk, there's something off about he way he acts in KH 2, he wasn't like that in 1.
So what do you think the new gameplay addition for Kingdom Hearts 3 will be?
I'm hoping Flowmotion comes back in at least some limited form, and we get Keyblade morphing like we saw in the pre-rendered gameplay. I'd also like it if limits functioned like the Dream Eater combos in DDD, where you unleash a variety of super strong, flashy attacks, and not just "mash X and Triangle until everything dies" like KH2's Limits. Summons I hope are more like KH1 and have unique attacks and strong points, and more importantly I want them to feel useful and impactful. When I used Genie, Simba or Tinker Bell, it felt like a tool I had to bust out, and I don't want them to just be spam attacks.
So what do you think the new gameplay addition for Kingdom Hearts 3 will be?
I'm hoping Flowmotion comes back in at least some limited form, and we get Keyblade morphing like we saw in the pre-rendered gameplay. I'd also like it if limits functioned like the Dream Eater combos in DDD, where you unleash a variety of super strong, flashy attacks, and not just "mash X and Triangle until everything dies" like KH2's Limits. Summons I hope are more like KH1 and have unique attacks and strong points, and more importantly I want them to feel useful and impactful. When I used Genie, Simba or Tinker Bell, it felt like a tool I had to bust out, and I don't want them to just be spam attacks.
every summon that isn't KH1 Tinkerbell or KH2 Stitch is also bad.
Not canon.I was thinking about the teaser trailer of KH 3, it shows Sora picking up Eraqus's Keyblade in Destiny Islands. Maybe the Keyblade reached the Island as the same way Sora and Riku get Kairi's bottle in the realm of darkness? I mean we know Aqua is locked in the realm and we get to see her using that keyblade in the extra episode of the BBS final mix. I just wonder why she left the Keyblade behind.
Not canon.
The whole scene. They announced that the teaser doesn't have plot ramifications.What's not canon? Sora picking up the Keyblade?
The whole scene. They announced that the teaser doesn't have plot ramifications.
Starlight is better.Oh didn't know that. Shame, it was cool the thought of Sora using Eraqus's keyblade to fght.
The whole scene. They announced that the teaser doesn't have plot ramifications.
Have they stated anywhere if Sora will get new clothes for KH3? I feel like each mainline game should have a visual progression in character.
Although, for some reason, KH2 is still the only game to have Sora playable in his older form.
Sora has been the hero of all of 2.4 games. Plus we have no less than 10 wielders at this point, assuming Ephemera doesn't pop in as well. There's no reason to use Sora in a side game.Well, if KH2 rehash games ever get made (Mulan, Beast Castle, etc) I fully expect KH2 Sora to be used.
This is Square.Kinda makes its inclusion in 2.5's credits a little baffling, no?
Not really. Plus, I doubt they'll want to implement something as complex as Drive in a side game, so they use someone else.You're missing the point :V
So far Nomura has said that both Riku and Sora are getting new outfits for KH 3.Have they stated anywhere if Sora will get new clothes for KH3? I feel like each mainline game should have a visual progression in character.
Although, for some reason, KH2 is still the only game to have Sora playable in his older form.
Not an answer.This is Square.
DreamyDrop said:Nomura has shown in the past that every damn thing in these games is worth analysis
As I said, even if the scene is not canon, Nomura obviously picked that particular keyblade for a reason. It's a clear hint as to what will be a major thread for the storyline of Kingdom Hearts III (saving Aqua from the realm of darkness & using the shown keyblade to restore Castle Oblivion back to its original form to save Ven).Not an answer.
If this was any other franchise/person in charge, I'd agree, but Nomura is known to do this. It would be just like him to do a teaser trailer like this that isn't canon but still features something for those who remember what Eraqus' keyblade looks like and that Aqua had it last to piece together the storyline a bit.I think you guys might be overthinking it. It's probably just a cinematic version of an in-game cutscene. That's what their other teasers for console games have been. It'll probably be Sora's indicator as to where Aqua is since no one but Ansem knows that. Eraqus' keyblade was with her, right?
I think there was some confusion about that? Some early reports of some of the teaser from the KH2.5 launch event said that Land of Departure had been seen, but I think I read some people saying it was actually Daybreak Town from KH Chi. Still, I don't doubt that something like what happened to Hollow Bastion in KHII will probably happen to Castle Oblivion in KHIII.Isn't the Land of Departure confirmed to be appearing in KH3? For that place to return as it was, Ventus and Aqua need to come back.
Also, who is Ephemera? A character from Chi?
Yeah, Ephemera is a new character from Chi. Dropped a lot of info on his introduction.Isn't the Land of Departure confirmed to be appearing in KH3? For that place to return as it was, Ventus and Aqua need to come back.
Also, who is Ephemera? A character from Chi?
Not valid. Look at my quote. Trailers are not indicative of the game. If we were analyzing a plot point in the game, then yeah. But not a trailer. Especially not a teaser. How many things have shown up in KH trailers that aren't in the final game? Come on, man. This is Square. FFXIII had a trailer with an entirely different gameplay system, ffs. And Nomura also said they revealed KH3 too early. Don't be shocked if you don't learn keyblade transformation until Sora's new outfit.Not an answer.
If this was any other franchise/person in charge, I'd agree, but Nomura is known to do this. It would be just like him to do a teaser trailer like this that isn't canon but still features something for those who remember what Eraqus' keyblade looks like and that Aqua had it last to piece together the storyline a bit.
It's not really all that far-reatching to think that while the short scene in the E3 trailer might not actually even be in the the game (and is probably more of a "here's what we're aiming for with the look of the game", much like KH3D's first appearance was just to show KH in 3D instead of having any actual ties to Dream Drop Distance), it featuring the keyblade Aqua was last seen with is a small *wink, wink* from Nomura to fans about KHIII's storyline.
And given that Mickey spent some time with DiZ, I think Mickey already knows where Aqua is but doesn't know how to get her out of there.
I think there was some confusion about that? Some early reports of some of the teaser from the KH2.5 launch event said that Land of Departure had been seen, but I think I read some people saying it was actually Daybreak Town from KH Chi. Still, I don't doubt that something like what happened to Hollow Bastion in KHII will probably happen to Castle Oblivion in KHIII.
Isn't the Land of Departure confirmed to be appearing in KH3? For that place to return as it was, Ventus and Aqua need to come back.
Also, who is Ephemera? A character from Chi?
When was that alluded to?In 3D they alluded that they already have one of the trio rescued already. As they don't know about Terra and they can't possibly get to Ven, it has to be Aqua.
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Yeah, I got the impression that they maybe know more or less accurately where Aqua & Ven are (& Terra's fate) and maybe even have a bit of a plan of how to get them back, but they would still need to actually execute their plans and get them back. I'd think a big part of KHIII's story will be maybe somehow getting to the realm of darkness to get Aqua back (perfect excuse to make Sora run through a few Disney worlds, gathering stuff or doing something that will help them with that) , then rescuing Ven from Castle Oblivion and returning him his heart.When was that alluded to?
My bad. Actually in coded, not 3DWhen was that alluded to?
Nah I think it implies that they already know where Aqua is, not that they rescued her already.My bad. Actually in coded, not 3D
Mickey: Yen Sid... I think we're finally close to figuring out where Ven's heart is.
Yen Sid: Is that so? Then that leaves only Terra.
That implies Aqua is okay.
Point is that Aqua aint in danger atm.Nah I think it implies that they already know where Aqua is, not that they rescued her already.
yep, hope we see a lot of her in KH 3Point is that Aqua aint in danger atm.
My bad. Actually in coded, not 3D
Mickey: Yen Sid... I think we're finally close to figuring out where Ven's heart is.
Yen Sid: Is that so? Then that leaves only Terra.
That implies Aqua is okay.