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Kingdom Hearts Community Thread: Now everybody can be a Keyblade Wielder!
- Thread starter Blood Diamonds
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What went wrong?
What went right?
Not conforming to a single console in the first place. It made the story as fractioned as Sora's heart.
You can literally play every game in the series with a PC, a PS3 and a 3DS.
Everything is streamlined enough as this point.
I meant when they were first released. It's easy enough now, but when these things first came out, you needed several different systems to play it. Obviously now you can just buy the HD remixes, but their accessibility might have contributed to some problems for Square Enix.
Too little, too late. For years you had to own GBA, DS, 3DS and PSP in addition to PS2 to be able to play all the games.
At least it's not a problem anymore. But I've always thought it to be a pretty big cunt move to spread a series of games to so many different platforms.
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/...m-hearts-mysteries---episode-one--time-travel
Now stop whining, botty.
Now stop whining, botty.
This is a needlessly complicated graph. Why not just lay it out in order of release dates?
What went wrong?
What went right?
How then would we be cynical?
NHarmonic.
Member
I'm getting to the end of KH2FM (on ps3) and i don't want to finish it. I've had so much fun, just like always had with this game and it really has aged very well...
But time to go to The World That Never Was and find the best character with the best keyblade for the party.
But time to go to The World That Never Was and find the best character with the best keyblade for the party.
Or
You could get to the last save room, leave the world, and complete every side mission and optional boss.
Meh, you mostly needed PS2 & PSP until Dream Drop Distance. PS2 had KH1, Re:Chain of Memories and KHII, PSP had BBS. Those were the essential games prior to Dream Drop Distance. Days & Recoded are filler with almost nothing to contribute to the franchise, so people don't really miss much if they skipped those. For a game with continuous story that's almost 13 years old, it's not all that horrible that the major releases were spread to three different platforms.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Besides, you could play Days and re;coded on a 3DS. Even prior to the HD versions, you only needed a PS2, PSP and 3DS to play every single game. It's not really been a hard franchise to follow.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Re:CoM never released in PAL land for PS2.
Because of reasons.
Because of reasons.
Because who cares about Europe? Want games? Move.
badcrumble
Member
get ready for angry roxas fans
Blood Diamonds
Banned
mostly filler that fleshes out several character's backstories but okay
Blood Diamonds
Banned
did i lie? of course you're not gonna find days interesting if you expect to play as sora and visit new worlds on a ds game
Napalm_Frank
Member
They will move alright. To other franchises that is.
It wasn't all that hard or expensive to mod a PS2 & import Re:Chain of Memories. Not the ideal solution, but PS1 & PS2 had so many games that never came to Europe that making your PS2 be able to play games like Final Fantasy Tactics, Arc the Lad collection, most Atlus games, Xenogears, Xenosaga 1 & 3, Chrono Cross, Valkyrie Profile, Suikoden III, Parasite Eve, Threads of Fate, Brave Fencer Musashi, Lunar 1 & 2 etc. was not only worth it, it was basically mandatory, especially if you liked Japanese RPGs.
Fleshes out & hints at some future developments but doesn't tell too much completely new information that is essential to understanding the bigger picture that wouldn't be explained (& explained better) later on. I think Xion's existence is the only thing that isn't handled at all in latter games (she's shown, but I don't remember if they say who she is).
Because non-repetitive World would have been to much to ask for.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
They can't say who she is because no one remembers her :v
NHarmonic.
Member
Yeah... the game really shines with this remaster. All the particle effects, the music, everything is really polished and well looking.
Seven Force
Banned
Wow, just read up on those [chi] plot developments.
The plot seems to be going right the fuck off the rails in the best sense possible.
The plot seems to be going right the fuck off the rails in the best sense possible.
You have no idea. That this is a sleeping world all but kills the Daybreak ➡ Graveyard theory. A plus since DBT is currently my favorite world in the entire series.
I think everything but Daybreak is a sleeping world.
The other worlds are nonexistent. Olympus Colleseum never fell into darkness at all.
358/2 retro actively makes KH2s opening amazing and actually makes a ton of scenes better. Seriously feels like a punch in the gut any time Axel is on screen. Its not necessary for the overall plot but it makes KH2 much better.
Finally caught up to Bbs ... only took me 6 or so years... so some questions
1. Why does Xehanort neet to manipulate key blade weilders if both Ansem and Xehanort should be able to use keyblades?
2. Is Vens body still in Castle Oblivion?
3. Is Terra's heart still stuck in Xehanort?
4. Where can I find out what happens to the Organization btwn Bbs and Chain/358?
5. Is any of this answered in Recoded or DDD?
6. Is Bbs Vol 2 eve happening, seems that would answer q4
1. Why does Xehanort neet to manipulate key blade weilders if both Ansem and Xehanort should be able to use keyblades?
2. Is Vens body still in Castle Oblivion?
3. Is Terra's heart still stuck in Xehanort?
4. Where can I find out what happens to the Organization btwn Bbs and Chain/358?
5. Is any of this answered in Recoded or DDD?
6. Is Bbs Vol 2 eve happening, seems that would answer q4
badcrumble
Member
Given the somewhat half-finished nature of DDD and the lack of BBS volume 2, part of me thinks that Nomura was told rather abruptly to get off his ass and make KH3 even though the original plan was for the FF Versus XIII team to make it once they finished with that game (lol).
NHarmonic.
Member
BBS 2 would also cover aqua's journey in the Realm of Darkness right? but, before or after she encounters Ansem the Wise there? ._.
Before. BBS ends after KH2.
the last hour is some interesting stuff though
badcrumble
Member
I'm fairly certain that the Secret Chapter takes place before the Blank Points video, tbh.
Phew! Glad to hear it's more like the CoM tease of Twilight Town, then.
my last post here was in october and i said i was gonna try fighting lingering will. due to my schedule i ended up shelving the game until, like, 2 days ago. i finally picked it back up and just beat terra and all the data org fights for the first time.
terra's DM is probably the most nightmarish thing i've ever dealt with in these games. i've lost so many attempts to the situation just snowballing after getting abilities sealed or trapped by his bow and just getting wrecked by it. it took me about 10 tries but i finally figured out it and my first time beating him ended up taking no damage at all. what a great fight
i'll probably do my critical playthrough over reading break, maybe even platinum the game ( not 1.5 though. final mix synthesis nonsense can fuck right off ).
terra's DM is probably the most nightmarish thing i've ever dealt with in these games. i've lost so many attempts to the situation just snowballing after getting abilities sealed or trapped by his bow and just getting wrecked by it. it took me about 10 tries but i finally figured out it and my first time beating him ended up taking no damage at all. what a great fight
i'll probably do my critical playthrough over reading break, maybe even platinum the game ( not 1.5 though. final mix synthesis nonsense can fuck right off
).Yeah i'm actually quite enjoying keeping up with new developments now, look forward to seeing where it heads.
I'm kind of tempted to just sign up and give it a try considering it doesn't look like we're gonna get a English release anytime soon.
Anyone? (Dream Drop i'm looking at you
) got a guide to registering?
While I haven't seen much of the town itself I really do love the battle theme for it.
2. Yes he still there having a good nap
3. Yes,but his mind still in his armor ( I guess )
4. Their first appearance was in Chain, There isn't a complete origin story yet,
5. No, DDD will give you more questions than answers, and ReCoded is a stupid filler.
6. Maybe, Nomura said that the concept and the script is ready. but they don't know how theyre gonna share it, it can't be a standalone or another KH spin-off, it might be a Movie, a novel, a prologue for KH3 .. I'm just saying
I won't defend Re;Coded.. because I could really care less, but Days is definitely not Filler. In fact, I would say that Days is arguably the most cohesive game in the series, and easily contains the best story. Unlike Birth by sleep and DDD, Days actually managed to offer up a decent experience without turning KH into a Star Wars parody or whatever you want to call the last couple of hours of DDD. I think it's time we start appreciating Days for the things it did and the things it didn't do.
Most of the missions were filler but I agree that the story itself is not. I'd argue that it cares the least about the Disney Worlds since they really only serve as arenas for the same types of missions.
Days is the definition of filler. 80% of the game's story is the player watching Roxas, Axel and/or Xion eating ice cream. The pacing is horrible, none of the Org members do anything worthwhile, the tutorials feel like they go on and on and on and on and on, watching the trio bonding is boring as hell, some of it is just repetition of what we've seen in KHII and only a miniscule portion of the game is something actually worthwhile. It does make sympathizing with Roxas' situation in KHII a bit easier, but outside of that its story has absolutely no lasting impact in the franchise nor does it reveal anything too essential for the bigger picture and it's the most boring game in the franchise until the last hour or so. Coded is the definition of pointless nothingness, but at least it's more fun & varied to play.
As far as best story in the franchise, that goes either to the first game (best paced, simple and to the point, no pointless convolution), or my personal favorite, Chain of Memories. Intrique, mind-games, the best Org XIII members & their shenanigans, backstabbing, decent pacing, a pretty good beginning for Riku's redemption etc.
Yeah i'm actually quite enjoying keeping up with new developments now, look forward to seeing where it heads.
I'm kind of tempted to just sign up and give it a try considering it doesn't look like we're gonna get a English release anytime soon.
Anyone? (Dream Drop i'm looking at you
.
Backwards. Roxas is Ventus. Heart determines appearance and Roxas has Ven's heart in him.
badcrumble
Member
yep. KH1/CoM have good stories, and I'd say BBS does too.
Seven Force
Banned
Definitely have to agree with either Chain of Memories or KH1 having the best plot, though I think I actually have to lean more towards CoM. Great set of antagonists (By far Axel's best showing in the series), great character development for both Sora and Riku, and it did a good job at foreshadowing bits of KH2.
For the Disney worlds, I think that KH2 has the best story, but its overall plot is a little fragmented. KH CoM probably had the best main story, and would be ranked higher for me if not for the cards.
A lot of KH1's worlds felt a little dead. There were things going on but only as long as there was plot. And the main story is taking a bit of a backseat instead of playing a dual role. Hundred Acre Woods did succeed in giving me the feels, though.
CoM puts the main story at the front with the world's just being busy work. And the focus is on the antagonists and Riku, not Sora.
KH2 blends the main story with the world stories, which is an interesting way to go but made everything a bit jumbled.
A lot of KH1's worlds felt a little dead. There were things going on but only as long as there was plot. And the main story is taking a bit of a backseat instead of playing a dual role. Hundred Acre Woods did succeed in giving me the feels, though.
CoM puts the main story at the front with the world's just being busy work. And the focus is on the antagonists and Riku, not Sora.
KH2 blends the main story with the world stories, which is an interesting way to go but made everything a bit jumbled.
In Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix is it possible to enter into Final Form without using the Two Become One keyblade?
I've Platimuned this game but I haven't been able to ever obtain this form without that keyblade and obviously anti sora over again .Is it not possible in final mix to enter it without that keyblade or am I just impatient? Basically what I am trying to do is have a save file where I have 0 anti sora transorms while obtaining Final Form. Dunno if possible, I haven't been able to do it,
I've Platimuned this game but I haven't been able to ever obtain this form without that keyblade and obviously anti sora over again .Is it not possible in final mix to enter it without that keyblade or am I just impatient? Basically what I am trying to do is have a save file where I have 0 anti sora transorms while obtaining Final Form. Dunno if possible, I haven't been able to do it,