I think the poster is just pointing out that it's not just Tabata who have politics in the games they direct.
KINGSGLAIVE: Final Fantasy XV Thread: Everything for the future king
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I think the poster is just pointing out that it's not just Tabata who have politics in the games they direct.
vainglorious
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Well the official story was that he left FF12 midway through development due to health reasons but the rumor mill suggests there was disagreement over the development of the game and SE politics led Matsuno to take his ball and go home. I wonder if there's bad blood.
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And while we're on this tangent I am still waiting for the day SE decides to let Hiroyuki Ito out of the goddamn janitor's closet.
Oh I recall of that, but every time I see the guy tweet about XIV I think, "Ph, maybe he's not mad?!" Who knows!
Anyway, enjoyed the movie impressions from those that went. Still curious to see it on the big screen, but my expectations are as completely tempered as they've always been.
Re: FNC. While the game isn't part of FNC and Tabata's said as much, what can't be denied is that it has its roots in FNC when the game was Versus XIII.
Besides, as duckroll was saying, this could very well be another interpretation of the FNC and it could use it in completely different ways than FFXIII did. Or maybe it's not? Especially since the core mythology of FNC is so basic that it doesn't matter anyway and could be just generic fantasy mumbo-jumbo. Screw FNC branding.
Besides, as duckroll was saying, this could very well be another interpretation of the FNC and it could use it in completely different ways than FFXIII did. Or maybe it's not? Especially since the core mythology of FNC is so basic that it doesn't matter anyway and could be just generic fantasy mumbo-jumbo. Screw FNC branding.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Dude has had it with development of AAA titles. He just plain doesn't want to work on big projects anymore because that's exhausting. If you read up about the development of Vagrant Story, it was a real trainwreck too and the only reason that game was completed despite the delays and scrapped content is because it was a bit smaller a project than something like FF12. FF12 was just simply put an impossible task for a control freak like Matsuno.
Sit further away.
I'm not even being ironic for once.
When something moving across the screen flashes across a smaller fraction of your vision, it's easier to track, especially at ~cinematic 24FPS~.
I've always tried to sit as far back as possible in action movies. Watched TFA from pretty much the second row from front by mistake, regretted it. It was like playing a bad PC port stuck at FOV 65 2 feet from my monitor.
edit: To be clear, I'm not comparing the cinematography in TFA to Kingsglaive, mind you. But yeah, really. Also Michael Bay movies.
Yabberwocky
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My FF dream, right there. Sigh.
Dude. We were almost at the back row.
WE HAVE TO GO FURTHER
Farther!
-grabs guitar- are you sure you wish to go there?
You shouldn't doubt my ability in picking cinema seats! I'm really picky about it!!!!
I've been think about something for a bit now. I remember a comment by Tabata earlier on, about how Lucis is a kingdom that has a culture or religion of worshiping the dead or something and that he was struggling to depict it without crossing certain ratings regulations in some regions or whatever. What happened to that? I don't see any indication of that in Kingsglaive and there would have been many scenes where they would have had a chance to highlight that aspect. Lots of people die in Kingsglaive, how people deal with death and loss is something it kinda touches upon, but there is zero indication anywhere that this is a country that in any way has a culture of ancestral worship or strong belief in the afterlife. What gives?
Not always. You have to know how the hall is designed and how far the seats are away from the screen. Some screens have the first row further away than others, etc. So for some screens the best seats are definitely in the middle rows, but there are some where going further back is better for optimal viewing.
Not always. You have to know how the hall is designed and how far the seats are away from the screen. Some screens have the first row further away than others, etc. So for some screens the best seats are definitely in the middle rows, but there are some where going further back is better for optimal viewing.
I thought he said they removed that aspect of the story.
artsi
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I think you said it, I guess they're going for maximum sales and didn't want the movie / game to be banned in China and / or other countries. So they just dress in black now.
He did? Lame and disappointing.
Isn't that the whole
Old Lucian Kings
He said they toned it down, not removed iirc
That doesn't seem to be anything related to the culture of the people in the country. It's more like some royal secret only some people really know about. The impression Kingsglaive gives is that Lucis is a modern secular society that only uses magic as a tool.
Ganon Dragmire
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Without spoiling any story details, how were the villains?
DarkLordMalik
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Probably had to do with its release in China with how sensitive they are regarding this topic.
Eh I wouldn't want another XII situation. Matsuno story from start to end. no shitty ass adjustments like Vaan and Penelo.
Nightengale
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Watched it. Like it.
Ironically, I agree with duckroll with just about everything, but I came out really enjoying it.
But yeah, with the movie, going in with hindsight that this was originally supposed to be another medium ( game prologue ) that was readapted into a movie, makes it a lot more obvious the parts of this movie that doesn't seem to have the same amount of care into it.
For example, I would say that the "moment-to-moment" beats of the movie are very well framed. From one scene to the next, things flowed well. But the quality of the scenes that were quieter character-focused ones? Hollow and doesn't build any real emotional gravitas. I went in and out of the movie not really caring for Nyx at all. Also, for all the excellent visuals in the movie, it had mediocre story-boarding. Amazing moments in the movie fall short of their full potential because the storyboarding fails to amplify the scenes and storytelling.
That being said, as a FF fan, I still really liked it. It won't win any awards as a standalone, but as a setup for FFXV? I think it largely does its job.
Ironically, I agree with duckroll with just about everything, but I came out really enjoying it.
But yeah, with the movie, going in with hindsight that this was originally supposed to be another medium ( game prologue ) that was readapted into a movie, makes it a lot more obvious the parts of this movie that doesn't seem to have the same amount of care into it.
For example, I would say that the "moment-to-moment" beats of the movie are very well framed. From one scene to the next, things flowed well. But the quality of the scenes that were quieter character-focused ones? Hollow and doesn't build any real emotional gravitas. I went in and out of the movie not really caring for Nyx at all. Also, for all the excellent visuals in the movie, it had mediocre story-boarding. Amazing moments in the movie fall short of their full potential because the storyboarding fails to amplify the scenes and storytelling.
That being said, as a FF fan, I still really liked it. It won't win any awards as a standalone, but as a setup for FFXV? I think it largely does its job.
EvilKatarn
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Anyone know if the disk in the game's Deluxe Edition will also have a 3D version of the movie? If there even is a 3D version of it at all.
No there's no 3D version afaik.
Happy to see Nightengale enjoyed it. I don't think it's ironic at all to be able to see flaws in something and still enjoy it. I think what held back my enjoyment for Kingsglaive was how disappointing the action direction was when it could have really elevated it from just "fun" to "wow" even if it's just on a graphical basis. There's definitely a lot to smile at for FF fans who are into easter eggs and monster cameos.
Happy to see Nightengale enjoyed it. I don't think it's ironic at all to be able to see flaws in something and still enjoy it. I think what held back my enjoyment for Kingsglaive was how disappointing the action direction was when it could have really elevated it from just "fun" to "wow" even if it's just on a graphical basis. There's definitely a lot to smile at for FF fans who are into easter eggs and monster cameos.
Nightengale
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Action direction was.. really, really mediocre.
And one could even say it's terrible
And one could even say it's terrible
considering the potential of the material they had to work with in the last 3rd of the movie
Just watched in theaters a few hours ago.
I can say I enjoyed it. Story is good enough.
Action sequence is also good, but not as good as Advent Children imo.
Only thing I don't like, the main villain is too OP. I mean, he can singlehandedly demolish the entire army of Lucis if he wants to.
Overall, I'd rate it as 8/10.
I can say I enjoyed it. Story is good enough.
but too similar to Troy.
Action sequence is also good, but not as good as Advent Children imo.
Only thing I don't like, the main villain is too OP. I mean, he can singlehandedly demolish the entire army of Lucis if he wants to.
Overall, I'd rate it as 8/10.
Urghhh...I really want to like this movie but good god that editing during action. Fuck!! If you guys want to know how bad it was, google that liam neeson jumping fence gif. It's that bad.
It's such a ahame too considering how the set pieces in last half were Asura's Wrath+Pacific Rim level of insane.
Best I can give it is 5/10 due to the atrocious action direction. Storywise, it's a solid 6.5 IMO.
It's such a ahame too considering how the set pieces in last half were Asura's Wrath+Pacific Rim level of insane.
Best I can give it is 5/10 due to the atrocious action direction. Storywise, it's a solid 6.5 IMO.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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Has everybody so far been watching with Japanese dubbed audio?
I know my question is couched with an undercurrent of "Maybe the English dubbed audio has a different/better? experience" but I'm genuinely curious as well if they're distributing that version alongside the Japanese one.
Specifically I am reading that the storytelling regardless of dubbed language has problems so I'm not arguing that. Just wondering if the English dub casting is basically window-dressing to draw in mainstream audiences who like the actors more than their familiarity with this franchise might draw them in or not.
I know my question is couched with an undercurrent of "Maybe the English dubbed audio has a different/better? experience" but I'm genuinely curious as well if they're distributing that version alongside the Japanese one.
Specifically I am reading that the storytelling regardless of dubbed language has problems so I'm not arguing that. Just wondering if the English dub casting is basically window-dressing to draw in mainstream audiences who like the actors more than their familiarity with this franchise might draw them in or not.
You fool
care to elaborate for someone not as smart as you? I know gaming press have seen it so i presume the english version exists somewhere. and was just wondering if it was available.
if the answer is no then just tell me that. no need to call me a fool.
Xion4360
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there are 2 clips out from moviemaniacsDE on youtube
Final Fantasy XV - Kingsglaive - Secure The Wall
Final Fantasy XV - Kingsglaive - Release the Demon
Both of these clips are from the first 10 minutes.
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Third clip..Regis and Ardyn
Final Fantasy XV - Kingsglaive - Terms of Peace
Final Fantasy XV - Kingsglaive - Secure The Wall
Final Fantasy XV - Kingsglaive - Release the Demon
Both of these clips are from the first 10 minutes.
EDIT
Third clip..Regis and Ardyn
Final Fantasy XV - Kingsglaive - Terms of Peace
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Xion4360
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purseowner
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This sure is disappointing news. Anyone have any more info on this?
The Japanese track is just a dub track for the Japanese region. It's not on any other release because English is the original language for the movie.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
I guess their reasoning is that they should just include the European languages + the original language... which in this case isn't Japanese since the lipsync was done with the English voices.
EDIT: Beaten
lazybones18
Banned
don't think there will be anymore MI theater listings with four days left, which blows
purseowner
Member
I know that that's (unconventionally) the case for this, but would have been nice to have the Japanese track additionally, given some intend to play the game with Japanese dub and no English dub exists for Brotherhood.
The cast isn't even the same though.
purseowner
Member
Which was presumably a marketing decision to get an all-star cast for the film in the West, but still going from Japanese to Japanese would be less jarring, despite cast changes.
And anyway, I'd love to hear Gô Ayano as Nyx compared to Aaron Paul.
Edit: I wonder which dub the game's animations will be designed for - do we have any idea yet? It's clear Squeenix are targeting the Western market first as far as Kingsglaive is concerned.
GetDigitized
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So anybody know if the london kingsglaive tickets all sold out or if it's a bug 
, it opened up like 15 seconds before 4, i was refreshing for the whole minute prior and it still sold out instantly .
, it opened up like 15 seconds before 4, i was refreshing for the whole minute prior and it still sold out instantly .