Lone_Prodigy
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Maybe it's just me but I find Draven too predictable. He'll run to where his axe is bouncing, which makes skillshotting him easier.
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League of Legends |OT8| Goodbye, Promos.
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lebonk is super fun in this mode
i played a few sona games to get the skin icon since ori's so bad, sona's super op
much better, gj rito
i played a few sona games to get the skin icon since ori's so bad, sona's super op
Finally, Morgana looks like her splash art.
much better, gj rito
It's not a nerf, lol.
It's not. It's a pretty nice buff, especially early.
PhillipCostigan
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how is it a nerf? you're gaining an extra 2% bonus health and 17% of your base health in exchange for a base value loss. At level one even with no runes it's a 5 HP buff. At level 18 with no runes or masteries it's and extra 130.
none of that even includes the bonus HP increase
Also, piece of shit champion getting nerfed.
Any time Corki gets slapped, we should all be cheering.
Also, piece of shit champion getting nerfed
They're slowly gonna change all ADC movement abilities to 100 mana, probably. They commented about it yesterday during the expansion tournament how Ezreal's E was the only one that was that high and it was unfair.
Whip out your calculators gents, this is a nerf.
New shield at level 1: 105 hp
Old shield at level 1: 100 hp
New shield at level 3: 136hp
Old shield at level 3: 150 hp
New shield at level 5: 176 hp
Old shield at level 5: 200 hp
New shield at level 7: 224 hp
Old shield at level 7: 250 hp
New shield at level 9: 281 hp
Old shield at level 9: 300 hp
New shield at level 9 w/ Juggernaut: 367 hp
Old shield at level 9 w/ Juggernaut: 375 hp
New shield (level 18 base stats only): 431 hp
Old shield (level 18 base stats only): 300hp
Nautilus roughest part is his early, which has been nerfed. Having a bigger shield is nice and all late, but that was never his issue in the first place.
(in case anyone is wondering, I've done many calcs taking into account runes masteries and the story doesn't change. Takes well into mid-game for the shield values to break even)
"But how much of a difference can 20hp possibly make, lol, drawkcaB's gone off the deep end!"
All the difference in the world because of how Nautilus on-hit damage works from his W. There are two animations when Nautilus swings: right-to-left, and then left-to-right. But here's the thing, provided the shield was up at any point of the right-to-left animation (even the very start before he's even visually moved his arm) then the left-to-right swing will still occur and apply its bonus AoE magic damage.
Nautilus shield rank 3 shield still routinely breaks before the full duration is up, it's very common (>50% of the time) for the shield to break just after the right-to-left animation fires, which then guarantees the left-to-right animation and AoE damage. In S5, it takes a rank 5 to not break before the non-buff camps are cleared.
That ~20hp shield strength is the difference in the shield holding prior to the right-to-left animation. This is big and goes well beyond just the raw numbers. That's a loss of AoE damage. That's more time clearing camps. That's more damage taken from monsters.
This without even considering that he's just as much duelists' food as before.
Newt said:
lol
While I stand corrected on his early game, it still lets him build more armor/MR and not suffer because his shield is scaling off his total health and not just his bonus. I still think it's an overall buff, even if they did nerf his early game (which should be at least brought up to what it is now).
Wolf Akela
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Nautilus shield struggles a lot more late game than early. Lots of people complained how easy it was to pop late game, which resulted in massive damage drop.
Actually early mid game shield has always been fine for me unless you don't max it first for some reason.
Actually early mid game shield has always been fine for me unless you don't max it first for some reason.
For your part, as a top laner, yes, this is probably a nice change (which I'm going to try myself on vacation because if I have to play top I may as well practice champs I actually like). For Nautilus jungle, this isn't good. My hope at this point is that like Hecarim, Skarner, Corki and a few other champions so far in this PBE cycle this isn't the only change for Nautilus.
I'll even conceded that solo queue being solo queue where 40+ minute games are more frequent this might end increasing his win rate slightly, but this is a non-starter for competitive play.
Wolf Akela said:
This is 80% due to people incorrectly using the shield late game if your goal is damage. People lead-in with the hook to engage (which is fine) and then immediately pop the shield when they're the only available target. Don't get me wrong, that's fine too, but if you want to deal damage just hold back a few seconds until the carries switch targets, then activate the shield. Remember, we're talking about a late game situation here, their ADC will have 3+ offensive items. That extra strength on the shield will absorb another 2, maybe 3 AAs. You still need to hold on to it to deal damage.
(also, Naut's biggest source of damage at 18 is his E, believe it or not)
Hahahahaha
Blitz-Vayne
The thought of vayne players thinking, "Got to manage my mana for that tumble damage" is hilarious
Wolf Akela
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Kalista passive now costs 100 mana. Awesome.
Mister Wilhelm
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New Morgana model is beautiful.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
You mean the adc that auto attacks like a melee champ?
Stone Ocean
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Morg looks good but she still needs wings that don't look like papier maché
Stone Ocean
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Orochinagis
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Finally, Morgana looks like her splash art.
Morgana needs a rework asap.
Crab Milk Mickey
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Bit weird they only gave her a texture update (as opposed to the whole shebang) when keeping in mind that every Riot artist that browses their forum basically admits that everything about her is, well, crap.Finally, Morgana looks like her splash art.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Now Riot can go fix that hideous atrocity know as kennen.
prolly because they don't have the right concept done yet
i'm guessing if they'll redo morg they might as well redo kayle too and make it a big event or something
press c and a small window with all your stats including crit chance will show up
press c
Lone_Prodigy
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Poro king mode is pretty fun. No summoners which means ults like Morg's, Fiddle's, and Nunu's are hard to avoid especially if you use the initiation.
Not going to get the Slay Belle Icon since Kat is banned every game.
Not going to get the Slay Belle Icon since Kat is banned every game.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Psst.
Use Fiddle. Then laugh in their faces
Use Fiddle. Then laugh in their faces
Lone_Prodigy
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Idk why any Vayne would have the little sense to get ignite over a defensive summoner spell lol. GJ Fracas!
I love the Poro king mode, it's so stupid lol. I just wish the icon when you are hit with a Poro was a tad bit bigger. Sometimes I'll get hit and "whoops" I have someone in my face.
I've been trying different champs but been struggling with it, had fun nonetheless!
I love the Poro king mode, it's so stupid lol. I just wish the icon when you are hit with a Poro was a tad bit bigger. Sometimes I'll get hit and "whoops" I have someone in my face.
I've been trying different champs but been struggling with it, had fun nonetheless!
katarina pentas don't count
don't lie to yourself
you know it in your heart to be so
SenorArdilla
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Oh boy. Hitting people 150 times with Poros is going to be fun. Why do the Poros explode into snow when you throw them?
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