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What are you talking about? Steam gave a 10% discount whereas the developers had a 20% discount.
UncleSporky
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There is no level cap. You are finished once you max every skill. Therefore, to truly min/max the game, you need to take stat increases as traits because there's no other way to increase your stats once every skill is maxed.
Of course, only a maniac is going to go to the effort to max out every skill, so it may end up being more practical to get a particular benefit unlocked a level early.
That's cLvl 75 for all the skills maxed. I mean, maybe the rate of EXP adjusts better than I'm thinking but I'd still think there would be an effective level cap or just an expected level sort of thing. But I guess that's not really a "cap" then :x
...though, yeah, it's basically just valued mostly for the whole "getting stuff earlier" bit. I grabbed it all for my first group but subsequent runs will just forgo them. It's not even that big of a deal honestly.
I believe the game engine (iirc it's a custom one made by the devs) uses some kind of deferred lighting which doesn't allow for anti-aliasing. So I reckon the only way to force AA is either using supersampling of some form, or a post process AA such as FXAA (Nvidia actually just added the ability to force that via their latest beta drivers).
I have yet to actually try any method, but I think supersampling is probably a safe bet, the game isn't exactly a GPU hog.
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Deleted member 17706
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I'm thinking about restarting with two Warriors and two Mages. What good are Rogues? The one in my party does nothing but throw things for not a whole lot of damage. Is there a use for Rogues that I'm not aware of?
Restarting the game on Easy. The fighting is just too stressful for me on Normal (I thought the game was going to be turn based), I'm enjoying the exploring and puzzle solving much more.
Will make my own party this time.
I wish there was an option to turn it turn-based to be honest, my reactions aren't very fast and it would give me time to think. I'm playing on Easy too, hopefully that will make up for my lack of reflexes.
forgeforsaken
Member
They can melee from the back row eventually. Also they can make a decent frontline with high evasion, as evasion actually can make a lot better tank than damage reduction.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I wonder if we'll eventually see unorthodox builds, like a mage minotaur or a fighter insectoid.
Actually, the reason you even need AA compatibility bits is for games that use deferred shading. It's just a matter of finding out whether any of the existing 30 or so NVidia AA bits fits their buffer layout. For now I'm just downsampling.
Oh, and on hard this game is hard, even for my hilariously minmaxed party.
Confidence Man
Member
I think I fucked up my party. I'm in the second level and the only way to progress is through an insanely tough fight, my mage is still at level 1 and can't cast any spells and my rogue is good only for throwing rocks.
I've been playing this afternoon while listening to this playlist in the background at a LOW volume - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ctOMWAZLw4&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL3A9F3FD725C3D112 - Lord of the Rings soundtrack playlist. Goes together very well.
I currently have a mage minotaur in my party, hasn't died once.
forgeforsaken
Member
Minotaur throwing weapons from the back row seems like it would be really effective where throwing weapons scale off the strength stat (I think missile weapons do too) and as you level throwing you get strength.
I was in the same boat. After my characters hit lvl 3 I was good to go. Rogue was able to hit from back line, and mage discovered shock spell.
Well, you actually should've found some throwing weapons by now for the Rogue and Mage spell casting is as far as I can tell, some trial-and-error for learning spells until you find a scroll to spell it out for you. Fire, Ice, and Earth all have pretty early spell scrolls though.
Besides that, rotate them in and have them swing (and deal damage) to get full EXP. Kind of an annoyance but it works. I also gave my Rogue a Spear for the time being just so she can do things from the back before getting the back-row melee skill.
You should have found a dagger either late in Level 1 or mid-way through level 2 that the Rogue can be very effective with. My rogue is using a dagger in the front row and is cleaning house.
Sir Garbageman
Member
I'm pretty sure this post just convinced me to buy the game when I get home.
bengraven
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So STR is really important for rogues? Fuck me.
Give your rogue the spear from your first skeleton battle and he can reach from the backrow until you get enough projectile items.
I was upset that there wasn't a cover system.
Give your rogue the spear from your first skeleton battle and he can reach from the backrow until you get enough projectile items.
I was upset that there wasn't a cover system.
Confidence Man
Member
Decided to purchase this impulsively after seeing it pop up on steam. I've been wanting to play an RPG like this. Thought it was turn-based though . On the plus side, I'm having some fun with it. I just went with the default party. I might make my own later, but I'm essentially just using this party to learn the game.
Initially I had no clue how magic worked. There's just all these symbols that I thought I was supposed to know, maybe by looking at the manual or something. I had found a scroll and was so confused. I thought it was an item to use. I eventually figured out the magic system and actually think it's pretty neat.
I usually feel overwhelmed with RPGs and how different stats actually work within the game. I'm just going to experiment here and toy around with everything. It's a bit refreshing considering I'm usually a little OCD about getting all the best gear, skills, etc.
. On the plus side, I'm having some fun with it. I just went with the default party. I might make my own later, but I'm essentially just using this party to learn the game.Initially I had no clue how magic worked. There's just all these symbols that I thought I was supposed to know, maybe by looking at the manual or something. I had found a scroll and was so confused. I thought it was an item to use. I eventually figured out the magic system and actually think it's pretty neat.
I usually feel overwhelmed with RPGs and how different stats actually work within the game. I'm just going to experiment here and toy around with everything. It's a bit refreshing considering I'm usually a little OCD about getting all the best gear, skills, etc.
Throwing weapon wise, there's two I can think of, though one is probably easily missed:
Secret room at the very start of the game~
And yeah, lack of a baseline spell kind of sucks if you screw up your spell points. Hell, I still don't actually think I found a spell scroll for any Air spells yet :| I kind of cheated and knew the first fire spell from watching some videos pre-release.
Lactose_Intolerant
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I'm thinking of making a Minotaur Rogue. Since projectiles can't miss. Just load up on attack bonuses like the skull skill.
Str also effects how far you can throw things.
The first ice spell is pretty good. It can hit multiple people in a line.
Str also effects how far you can throw things.
The first ice spell is pretty good. It can hit multiple people in a line.
My party is actually pretty well-balanced now.
Two fighters in the front, one with sword/shield, and the other with axes.
Rogue in the back with crossbow/poison darts, throws the occasional frost/ice bomb
And a mage with staff/torch, who throws frostbolts at crabs like nobodies business.
Two fighters in the front, one with sword/shield, and the other with axes.
Rogue in the back with crossbow/poison darts, throws the occasional frost/ice bomb
And a mage with staff/torch, who throws frostbolts at crabs like nobodies business.
Throw rocks, you'll find loads of them and can pick them back up again.
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Deleted member 17706
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Oh shit. I had no idea about spears reaching from the back row. I have a bunch of those in my inventory now, so I'll give it at try.
Also, does anyone know if there is a benefit for Mages to have both hands free? Am I fine giving my Mage a torch in one hand?
If you do, just be sure to give your mage at LEAST 2 points in fire magic and I'd put 3 in Earth magic as well, as those two disciplines are what the first few scrolls you find will use.
Mage will get a staff in one hand eventually, but yeah, my mage is on torch-duty at all times.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Wait, weapon toss is STR instead of DEX? Weird. I guess this means more STR/DEX builds. What about STR/VIT?
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
Dex has no effect on weapon damage. Its just for melee hitting, evasion, and gives some resists. I didn't figure this out either.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Ahh, I'm more used to DEX for range damage
Okay then, looks like I can mix and match!
rollingstart
Banned
the end of level 4 was nightmarish. also spent a good ~20 minutes trying to find out
how to open the gate or teleport entrance to tome in that room with collapsing floors.
Same.
NemesisPrime
Banned
Wow... been playing it for the last few hours.
GREAT job guys... I hope you sell zillions.
Only small problem... You can't change names of characters after you start I am stuck with "prisoner" now.
GREAT job guys... I hope you sell zillions.
Only small problem... You can't change names of characters after you start
I am stuck with "prisoner" now.NemesisPrime
Banned
If you make a mage, pick 2 skill points in fire
And dump the next 20 in Ice magic. Freezing spiders in mid-attack and shattering them with a hit of your axe, is pretty rad.
Remind me my entire play of bioshock
Melhisedek
Member
Are the levels/maps randomized or?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Kinda sucks that you couldn't mix and match jobs though. Would be nice to see a mage fighter. But as it stands, it's pretty amazing. Hope this game sells well!
You should be carrying scrolls. Give them to your Mage. On the scroll it'll show which buttons to press to cast. There are also elemental requirements. So your Mage should at least be able to do a Fireball and Poison Cloud.
Minsc
Gold Member
Trying to do anything that involves clicking on specific, varying parts of the screen a thousand times over with a trackpad sounds like a nightmare to me. I'd just use a mouse. Have you tried this? I see your issue (MBP's don't have a right click), but a trackpad just doesn't sound fit to me.
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