Legend of Korra Book 3: Change |OT| SCHEDULEBENDING

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Chariot

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Pictures for all of the concept art shown during the panel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/98950359@N07/
lmao, Zaheer with the reindeer pullover
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They really had fun with the four.
they didnt say much except that this move to digital was planned all along (lol) and that the finale will be on the 22nd

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omfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff SPOILER for idk what episode in the future but omfffff lmao

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Korra is saved.
 

DedValve

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So this show is pretty much gonna die with the switch to premium digital services (and not even huge services like netflix)? Gg nick.
 

Mononoke

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So this show is pretty much gonna die with the switch to premium digital services (and not even huge services like netflix)? Gg nick.

As long as production quality doesn't drop in Book 4, then it really ends up being the same thing (had we gotten it on TV too). Well, we lose access to the free HD TV version of it (since the only free legal version is on Nick.com in shit quality). But outside of that.

But yeah, I don't think Nick + these creators will be teaming up again. And I don't expect the Avatar universe to have anything else done for some time now.
 

PBalfredo

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Does Nick own the avatar universe or could the creators possibly shop it around to someone else should they ever feel like returning to it in the future?

Did the panel go any deeper into the shedule/online fiasco (or show anything from the Platinum game) or was all just previews of the upcoming episodes?
 

Satch

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Does Nick own the avatar universe or could the creators possibly shop it around to someone else should they ever feel like returning to it in the future?

Did the panel go any deeper into the shedule/online fiasco (or show anything from the Platinum game) or was all just previews of the upcoming episodes?

nick owns the property

no game stuff at the panel
no fiasco
very vanilla
online change was planned all along (lol)
previews of upcoming episodes
trailer for second half of the season
character art
 

Jacob

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The weirdest thing to me is that they said this is their last year at SDCC. They've been going to San Diego for a decade now, it's been a huge part of the franchise's marketing and outreach to fans. I'm pretty sure they continued going in between the shows too. For them to straight up say "we're not coming back" when there's still another Book that's supposed to air next year makes me really nervous about the possibility of Nick pulling the plug and/or Book 4 being considerably abbreviated.
 

Blackhead

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Does Nick own the avatar universe or could the creators possibly shop it around to someone else should they ever feel like returning to it in the future?

Fans should setup a kickstarter or something :/

It really sucks that western animation tv industry is only organized as comedies for babies 'cause otherwise a show like ATLA or LoK would be primetime on one of the bigger channels.
 

Peff

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The weirdest thing to me is that they said this is their last year at SDCC. They've been going to San Diego for a decade now, it's been a huge part of the franchise's marketing and outreach to fans. I'm pretty sure they continued going in between the shows too. For them to straight up say "we're not coming back" when there's still another Book that's supposed to air next year makes me really nervous about the possibility of Nick pulling the plug and/or Book 4 being considerably abbreviated.

Given that apparently this season will end on August 22nd, chances are it'll have finished "airing" long before next year's SDCC. From their point of view there isn't much of a point to organizing another one of these when all that's left is selling Blu-rays.
 
Is there any literature I can read on the costs of animation production and why the fuck it seems to be so expensive to the point where any cartoon show not centered around comedy is doomed to fail?

That seems to be the recurring narrative about action-oriented serialized shows. That they're so unbelievably expensive that they can't make any money unless there's some serious merchandizing. I can understand Invader ZIM's niche appeal. It was a very "adult" show and turned off many young kids with its dark humor, it just felt like it was intended to be niche. But Korra? I just don't understand it. It's lighthearted enough for kids of all ages, it has the story and animation depth to appeal to older kids and many adults, it has a strong female presence to appeal to girls, enough action for boys, etc. It just looks and feels like a cartoon that should cast a wide net in its appeal, but it just doesn't?

I mean look at other TV shows. How are elaborate green screen effects, sets, actors, and all equipment cheaper than 2D animation? Where's the "so expensive it can only survive through merchandizing"? I guess what I'm getting at is, I just don't think there's anything prohibitively expensive about this kind of show, it just doesn't fit Nickelodeon's FAVORITE way of doing business so they mishandle it completely and claim it's the costs and the lack of appeal.
 

PBalfredo

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Is there any literature I can read on the costs of animation production and why the fuck it seems to be so expensive to the point where any cartoon show not centered around comedy is doomed to fail?

That seems to be the recurring narrative about action-oriented serialized shows. That they're so unbelievably expensive that they can't make any money unless there's some serious merchandizing. I can understand Invader ZIM's niche appeal. It was a very "adult" show and turned off many young kids with its dark humor, it just felt like it was intended to be niche. But Korra? I just don't understand it. It's lighthearted enough for kids of all ages, it has the story and animation depth to appeal to older kids and many adults, it has a strong female presence to appeal to girls, enough action for boys, etc. It just looks and feels like a cartoon that should cast a wide net in its appeal, but it just doesn't?

I mean look at other TV shows. How are elaborate green screen effects, sets, actors, and all equipment cheaper than 2D animation? Where's the "so expensive it can only survive through merchandizing"? I guess what I'm getting at is, I just don't think there's anything prohibitively expensive about this kind of show, it just doesn't fit Nickelodeon's FAVORITE way of doing business so they mishandle it completely and claim it's the costs and the lack of appeal.

The weirdest part is for all the "so expensive it can only survive through merchandising" routine, there is a complete dearth of Korra merchandising. ATLA had some but not much. I would of expected an action cartoon like this to have action figures coming out of its ass, like it was 90s TMNT or something.
 
I wonder if the Avatar franchise makes Nick enough money to warrant continuing in an online-only capacity. I wouldn't mind at all if they made new shows in the vein of Korra/ATLA that were digital only; what they're doing right now, however, just reeks of mismanagement and (perhaps unintentional) self-sabotage.
I don't know. After watching Teen Titans Go, I'm very wary of the possibility that that could also happen to Avatar (we even already have chibi Aang). I'd rather the series just be done for good after Korra than to deal with a fate like that.
 
The weirdest part is for all the "so expensive it can only survive through merchandising" routine, there is a complete dearth of Korra merchandising. ATLA had some but not much. I would of expected an action cartoon like this to have action figures coming out of its ass, like it was 90s TMNT or something.

I mean, if this is indeed true, if there's NO way any non-comedy cartoon can't survive without serious merchandizing, shouldn't there be a bit more anxiety? I mean the way the networks frame this problem makes it sound like they're on the verge of shutting their doors altogether. There's an entire genre of entertainment and an entire demographic that apparently is so completely devoid of profit that the whole industry is essentially stuck doing ONE sub-genre for the rest of its lifetime, and everything else struggles by default without some serious financial crutches?

Something just doesn't add up. If this is true aren't CN and Nick on the verge of going out of business? I don't think so obviously but the way they talk about non-comedy cartoons they certainly make it seem that way.
 

Conan-san

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I always got the impression that it's just easier to pump the schedules full of Johny Test and Spongebob and sail on the advertising space than it is to commission anything of actual worth.
 

Killthee

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Watched most of the aired episodes last night and holy cow did they finally step it up! The bending scenes look amazing, the plot actually has me hooked, and I'm actually starting to like Korra as a character. This is the first Korra season that I've found to be as good if not better than TLA.
 

Uzzy

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The weirdest part is for all the "so expensive it can only survive through merchandising" routine, there is a complete dearth of Korra merchandising. ATLA had some but not much. I would of expected an action cartoon like this to have action figures coming out of its ass, like it was 90s TMNT or something.

This continues to amaze me, and it depresses me that we'll probably never get Korra figurines and other merchandise. At least we're getting the video game, and given Platinum's record, it should be a damn great one. Hopefully that'll sell well.

Oh lawd, Korra's got her hair down again. I can't even handle it.

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So that's how Asami gets her girl. Nice.
 
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