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-Deimos

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Oh shit, that's Satch?

Whoa.

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I would assume there are spirits with purpose, like Hei-Bai (black-white in Chinese) the panda, and other spirits who just go about their business, much like how there are humans with purpose, like the Avatar, and others who just go about their business. There just happen to be more of the boring ones, which is why we see more of them.
 
Fantasy and technology can be done competently. I mean look at Star Wars. Or any of the other great science fantasy works. It's just that the writers of Korra aren't very competent let's be completely honest here.
 

Veelk

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Fantasy and technology can be done competently. I mean look at Star Wars. Or any of the other great science fantasy works. It's just that the writers of Korra aren't very competent let's be completely honest here.

Eh, the force is cool and I like the series, but the different species aspects and technology are one thing I dislike about the Star Wars universe. Species of Star Wars have the same problem of just being humans who happen to have bizarre bodies. And I will never understand how the lasers replaced normal guns. Laser weapons have their place, obviously, but they're slow and can be tracked by the human eye, which means they are dodgable as the human body moves faster than the eye can track it. Normal guns and railgun weaponry would be far more effective in both ground and space fights.

The strength of star wars is the character's, their development, the charm of the actors, and the fact that it set the standard for how to make an adventure movie for the next 40 years and counting. TLA had that and a more cohesive fantasy world, I think.
 
Eh, the force is cool and I like the series, but the different species aspects and technology are one thing I dislike about the Star Wars universe. Species of Star Wars have the same problem of just being humans who happen to have bizarre bodies. And I will never understand how the lasers replaced normal guns. Laser weapons have their place, obviously, but they're slow and can be tracked by the human eye, which means they are dodgable as the human body moves faster than the eye can track it. Normal guns and railgun weaponry would be far more effective in both ground and space fights.

The strength of star wars is the character's, their development, the charm of the actors, and the fact that it set the standard for how to make an adventure movie for the next 40 years and counting. TLA had that and a more cohesive fantasy world, I think.

A lot of your complaints are more on the industry than on star wars. The aliens being humanoid looking is just an issue on design. They made it where aliens did human things and looked like us because it's relatable, and to have to create a whole race with intricacies and history and culture, then have to do it X many more times is a bit too much. As funny as it is to say, Bioware did a slightly better job with alien culture with the Hanar and Elcor than many other shows. As to the laser weapons, you're complaining about the technology of the film and filmography in general. If those bullets fired at the speed they would realistically travel, it wouldn't really be seen and would lose all of its charm and uniqueness, therefore making them just regular guns in scope of a film. Its usefulness vs regular guns? Not having to reload or use physical bullets you would run out of much faster.

As to the cohesiveness of the world, I'd argue against it. Star Wars has a universe that has expanded on itself and given us a huge world that evolves and doesn't always revolve around the same Jedi vs evil power, huge conflicts and things of the sort, with the position of people, governments and powers ever changing like a breathing organism. Avatar did a decent job at creating a universe, better than most shows, but it's a bit simplistic when compared to Star Wars. But I'm not really interested enough to go into full detail.
 
Eh, the force is cool and I like the series, but the different species aspects and technology are one thing I dislike about the Star Wars universe. Species of Star Wars have the same problem of just being humans who happen to have bizarre bodies. And I will never understand how the lasers replaced normal guns. Laser weapons have their place, obviously, but they're slow and can be tracked by the human eye, which means they are dodgable as the human body moves faster than the eye can track it. Normal guns and railgun weaponry would be far more effective in both ground and space fights.

The strength of star wars is the character's, their development, the charm of the actors, and the fact that it set the standard for how to make an adventure movie for the next 40 years and counting. TLA had that and a more cohesive fantasy world, I think.
Again, there are plenty of non-humanoid species in Star Wars--Sarlacc, Bantha, Tauntaun, all that crazy shit on Naboo, etc. It's just that the movies tend to focus on the human-like ones because their interactions with the human main characters are more meaningful.
 

Veelk

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A lot of your complaints are more on the industry than on star wars. The aliens being humanoid looking is just an issue on design. They made it where aliens did human things and looked like us because it's relatable, and to have to create a whole race with intricacies and history and culture, then have to do it X many more times is a bit too much. As funny as it is to say, Bioware did a slightly better job with alien culture with the Hanar and Elcor than many other shows. As to the laser weapons, you're complaining about the technology of the film and filmography in general. If those bullets fired at the speed they would realistically travel, it wouldn't really be seen and would lose all of its charm and uniqueness, therefore making them just regular guns in scope of a film. Its usefulness vs regular guns? Not having to reload or use physical bullets you would run out of much faster.

As to the cohesiveness of the world, I'd argue against it. Star Wars has a universe that has expanded on itself and given us a huge world that evolves and doesn't always revolve around the same Jedi vs evil power, huge conflicts and things of the sort, with the position of people, governments and powers ever changing like a breathing organism. Avatar did a decent job at creating a universe, better than most shows, but it's a bit simplistic when compared to Star Wars. But I'm not really interested enough to go into full detail.

Well, that's why I say they focus more on characters and their development than what I consider world building. It was a calculated decision to leave actual alien aliens out to make the most of the human elements that they used to an advantage, but that doesn't change that they didn't world build too many cultures here. As far technology goes, I said lasers had their utilities, just not enough to completely justify replacing guns.

For worldbuilding, I am just talking about the (original) movies. I only read the Thrawn trilogy of the expanded universe, but I heard otherwise. Different writers doing different things almost inevitably leads to different characterizations, plot mechanics, interrpretations as a whole. That makes the universe more expanded, but cohesion is how it fits together, and usually less parts are better for that. Similarly, TLA's universe started falling apart when the comics and LoK started messing with stuff. But putting up TLA and Original SW side by side, I'd give TLA the win in terms of both cohesion and world depth.

That said, most of these complaints are ones I had when I was a kid. I remember being the only one who thought light sabers were stupid because you couldn't wield a sword with no weight like they did in the movies. It just didn't do it for me because I was nitpicky enough that I couldn't get into the world because of them. I've since made my tastes more sophisticated and looked at the more important narrative structure that SW accomplished, which is where the real magic of SW happened.
 

Hamlet

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At least we're not dead like other threads to shows that have small break.
Yet.

Yeah its already starting to slowdown a bit in this thread but i'm sure it'll pick up again when the flood of information at NY Comic Con about Book 4 happens. They might even show off an episode again at their panel if the previous year is any indication.
 

Toa TAK

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Yeah its already starting to slowdown a bit in this thread but i'm sure it'll pick up again when the flood of information at NY Comic Con about Book 4 happens. They might even show off an episode again at their panel if the previous year is any indication.

They should just steam the whole season.
 

Bit-Bit

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That book Title perfectly sums up Avatar Korra's struggles as the Avatar. The first book had her question her place as a bender in a technological world where benders are seen as bullies and hindering progress, the second book had her question her place as the spiritual bridge in a world where the humans and spirits are clearly in two separate ideology, and the third book had her question her place as the Avatar keeping balance in a world that might not need her in order to keep that balance (according to Zaheer). I bet book 4 will deal with all of these issues head on and shows the internal struggle that Korra has in a modern time.

With all of her fears of being the last Avatar as the running theme throughout all of these books, it would actually be great if Korra and Rava comes to peace with the world and willingly relinquish their duties as the Avatar. Maybe that's true Balance. When the world no longer needs the Avatar.
 

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I bet they'll just put the whole season up on Nick.com in one blast. "Season 4's up guys! Enjoy!"
 

Hamlet

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Probably a trailer, and it'll start in January. I'd love for it to be, "November 7th, season 4 starts!" but it probably won't be that.

Yeah a trailer for Book 4 soon sounds right and they might possibly show off an episode at NY Comic Con also. Plus with the December release date for the Book 3 Bluray and a Aussie Jan/Feb Book 4 release date all signs are pointing to a early Jan premiere date for Book 4 in the US.

I bet they'll just put the whole season up on Nick.com in one blast. "Season 4's up guys! Enjoy!"

If they do keep it to an online thing only for Book 4, I really do hope Nick tries to at least make their shitty video player a tad better before Book 4 starts. The ghosting and lack of video settings are pretty darn annoying considering its 2014 and they've had those issues for ages now.
 
hmmm interesting implications if the person who wants to be the avatar so bad and make their own name/legend, would be the one that effectively ends it (without dieing of course).

Honestly she hasn't done anything with it so...
 
Book 4 confirmed to be titled Balance.

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Nice. Hopefully this implies that both the world is looking for balance, and so is Korra in emotional balance.

hmmm interesting implications if the person who wants to be the avatar so bad and make their own name/legend, would be the one that effectively ends it (without dieing of course).

because honestly she hasn't done anything with it.
She brought the spirit and material world together and brought back the air nation, that's way more than a lot of Avatars did with basically just existing and being the world police. To be fair little has been done, outside of air benders being back, with the whole spirit world being real aspect.
 

Trey

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I mean, Korra rebuilt a virtually extinct culture and people, reconnected the physical and spiritual planes of reality, and defeated ultimate evil.

She also started a civil war; gotta take the good with the bad.
 
She brought the spirit and material world together and brought back the air nation, that's way more than a lot of Avatars did with basically just existing and being the world police. To be fair little has been done, outside of air benders being back, with the whole spirit world being real aspect.


I mean, Korra rebuilt a virtually extinct culture and people, reconnected the physical and spiritual planes of reality, and defeated ultimate evil.

She also started a civil war; gotta take the good with the bad.


To what end? they are just there and even after that Republic City is like 'fuck you" since she brought these things for the hell of it and had no way to fix it.

plus its more leaning to the air benders stuff happening due to the former as an extra "gift" which seems slightly unearned but hey.

then people are mostly focusing on the bad since it doesn't directly help them lol (Republic City: fuck off, Earth Kindgom Slums: fuck off, Zaheer is the hero here).

She did better than Kuruk though so its not as dire.
 
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