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Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD |OT| Tingling with HD excitement...only 398 Rupees
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I rushed the living heck out of my 1st run just to get on my 2nd and 100% that one. Can't pass up on the pajamas.I can't help myself
Shame the final figurine doesn't reflect your outfit.
MrSaturn99
Member
Just beat Dragon Roost Cavern.
So far, I'm loving this HD remaster. They really weren't kidding when they said it offered an improved sense of scope, and I love how the touched-up effects give certain areas a new feel (the interior of the cavern is stunning). I was considered about the rearranged soundtrack, but dare I say I actually prefer some of these new tracks (hellloooooo enemy theme!). Plus, I'm having a blast picking up small details I never noticed before.
That said, I don't like the sped-up/omitted animations; in particular, anything involving the Grappling Hook (salvaging/hooking onto a handle) is way too fast and I miss the lost Wind Waker encores. It's just too distractive for my tastes, I get that some people felt they slowed down the game and I'm guessing Nintendo didn't feel they were necessary enough to include as an optional feature (ala the Swift Sail), but I wish they did.
Other than that nitpick, diggin' it.
So far, I'm loving this HD remaster. They really weren't kidding when they said it offered an improved sense of scope, and I love how the touched-up effects give certain areas a new feel (the interior of the cavern is stunning). I was considered about the rearranged soundtrack, but dare I say I actually prefer some of these new tracks (hellloooooo enemy theme!). Plus, I'm having a blast picking up small details I never noticed before.
That said, I don't like the sped-up/omitted animations; in particular, anything involving the Grappling Hook (salvaging/hooking onto a handle) is way too fast and I miss the lost Wind Waker encores. It's just too distractive for my tastes, I get that some people felt they slowed down the game and I'm guessing Nintendo didn't feel they were necessary enough to include as an optional feature (ala the Swift Sail), but I wish they did.
Other than that nitpick, diggin' it.
plagiarize
Banned
It's such a relaxing game when you want it to be. Right now I'm just meandering around doing the trading quest. Link and the Red King are sailing northwest as I type, my Wii Gamepad in the stand next to the keyboard here.
The great sea is definitely my happy place.
The great sea is definitely my happy place.
TourianTourist
Neo Member
Nope, the original didn't have any boss titles either. Only the figurines revealed the boss names.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Did they take out the warping song movement every time you play it?
MrSaturn99
Member
If you're referring to the encore, then they did that for every song.
imo it suuuuckksssssssss
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Not the time warp... unless I'm on some drugs or something.
I think for most songs they'll have an encore per session. After that, it's gone.
I love it, cuts down on the repetition and makes the game a lot better.
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
The encore always plays the first time you play a song during a play session. For every unique song you play. Subsequent plays of the song cut the encore. It's a perfect compromise, as far as I'm concerned. Especially when you're doing a lot of warping during sidequests.
Maybe occasionally. But not in any capacity that matters.
equippedwithtowel
Member
Are you saying Nintendo decided to let you do the time warp again?
Yeah, there is some slowdown from time to time. It tends to happen when there is a lot happening on-screen, like hitting a group of enemies at once or using a bomb on several objects. It's not frequent or severe, but it's noticeable.
Yeah, a single encore is just right. They would get annoying in the original game if you ever used the wind waker several times within a few minutes.
I'm happy with all the faster animations, too.
i think i seen it on some of the final cutscenes in dragon roost and that's it so far
There's a bit, but it's very few and far between. It's really a non-issue.
Green Mamba
Member
The figurine quest is so much more bearable in this version. Just... who the hell thought the original version would be fun.
MrSaturn99
Member
I think they went overboard with the speed-ups, honestly. Stuff like sailing and conducting? Okay, but then you have salvaging suddenly reduced to a .2 second process and the grappling hook flying at the speed of light and dialogue/text popping up all at once and I keep thinking was all this crap really that cumbersome in the original?. Way too fast and in certain cases unnecessary, though hopefully the faster dialogue is a good sign for future Zeldas.
Personally I liked the choir renditions of the encores so that's why I don't like them being gone; that, and the rearranged Song of Passing sounded cool and now I'll never be able to hear it again.
Also, why doesn't the KORL's mouth move anymore when he speaks? Haha.
Haven't spotted any slowdown yet.
Grappling hook is a boring power-up so anything to make those segments smaller is definitely a positive. Should've sped up sidling as well.
I made it to the Forbidden Forest. The Deku Leaf is the greatest dungeon item I've seen in a Zelda game yet. Also, this dungeon is beautiful.
I open all of mine - and I buy many. I will never sell them. Mine to enjoy how I see fit (obviously if enjoying them is keeping them boxed - I'm all for that). To each his own.
If you havent got Luigi U you are missing out.
Also Nintendo was working on 3DS stuff and obviously held back games til the fall to try and pack a punch..which seems to kind of working...wiiu owners are happy and the wiiu is getting a slight positive light shed on it finally
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
Love it. Groups of five glowing circles take long enough to ferry up as it is, if I had to use the original dredging animation it'd be interminable.
Love it. The animation isn't unrealistically fast, if anything the original one was unrealistically long. When you're swinging from place to place, why would you want to watch that rope for a longer amount of time? Really can't think of a counter-argument for this one.
Loooooove it. It's not all at once, it still scrolls, but yea it's so fast that it might as well all be at once. When people speak in a unique cadence that's still maintained, and not sped up, so we're not really losing anything here. When you perform repeated actions that involve text popup, again, I can't fathom a reasonable argument against this. Every Zelda moving forward should function at this speed.
I doubt they'd have improved it if they didn't feel it was cumbersome when they approached the original code! I certainly feel like going back to the original would be a nightmare after becoming accustomed to the new version. And I really don't get how you can say any of it is "too fast." In a game full of repeated actions, these actions should be streamlined to the nth degree. It's just common sense.
Never hear it again? As I explained before, you still get the encores when you start a new play session. Save and quit, boot the game back up, and every song will play its encore the first time you play it. It's just missing during subsequent plays, during that same play session. It's a perfect optimization. Faster for repeated plays, but still get the chorale version and Link's little animation the first time.
PeterVenkman
Member
I've run into plenty of slowdown. If it's raining I get noticeable stutters. Any time bombs are involved it's an immediate slowdown. I got to an island guarded by multiple cannon boats in a thunderstorm and I actually had to sail away because fighting them through the slowdown was not gonna happen.
Even though the framerate doesn't hold up great, the game is still plenty playable. The time I mentioned above was the only time the framerate actually interfered with the gameplay. In most instances it's fine, but expect the game to chug with multiple enemies / effects on screen.
I think I'm mixing up terms -- I have noticed a large amount of pop-up when sailing... little whats-it-called-obkin forts just "poof" into existence when I go sailing. Are folks saying that this doesn't happen on the Wii U, or am I just misreading things?
I'm starting to think folks are saying this pop-up DOES happen, but explaining it as having all the geometry load, but remaining entirely invisible until you get within ___ pixels, at which point the textures pop into view. Is that what folks are saying?
I just wanted to be sure I wasn't going mad.
equippedwithtowel
Member
AFAIK pretty much. WWHD is using the same basic engine, but the added power lets them have you swift sail with no actual loading, there still is texture pop in though.
However the bloom isn't compensating for any of that as some people were apparently theorizing
Wind Waker setup like this would have been amazing (I'll spoil tag it just for people who haven't played the game)
Three dungeons to get the pearls (Greatfish Isle isn't cut out)
Acquire Master Sword
8 dungeons split between the Great Sea and Hyrule proper to acquire the 8 Triforce pieces.
Move on to final battle with Ganondorf
Acquire Master Sword
8 dungeons split between the Great Sea and Hyrule proper to acquire the 8 Triforce pieces.
Move on to final battle with Ganondorf
I'm not sure if the Gamecube would have been able to handle a game like that (due to disc size), but it would have been downright amazing.
It's a shame Wind Waker was rushed like it was, as the game would have been even more amazing than it was.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Wow, I really love
the rich-turned-poor girl
the anime man
Banned
Regarding the Triforce quest: how would anyone know where to get the
Chart on
, out of all the islands in the game? I had to look online for that.
Ghost
Diamond Steppe Island
akidnamededdy
Banned
The telescope dudes hint at things like that, as do the merman fish guys when you feed them to get island data. Actually, I think the merman at Diamond Steppe Island specifically tells you that there's a
chart there that'll help you find a Triforce shard
Smiles and Cries
Member
I am in the hospital can't play
Get well soon =}/='{I am in the hospital can't play
Smiles and Cries
Member
Thanks just need my Wind Waker fix soon
best wishes dude!I am in the hospital can't play
can't you just plug the Wiiu in somewhere and play on the gamepad?
MrSaturn99
Member
Instead of a counter-argument, how about a question: why is it necessary?
The alterations to sailing and conducting make sense because they're actions that are constantly, forcibly utilized throughout the game's duration. Personally, I wasn't annoyed by them, but most people were, and I can understand why: sailing between islands took a long time and there are countless instances where you conduct the Wind Waker. Meanwhile, the grappling hook is used more infrequently and that's why I find its changes a mystery. I mean, was anyone really groaning in impatience with the four-second animation of tossing the rope and watching it wrap around bar?
You bring up realism which I find interesting since a) I don't know the first thing about salvaging, but I highly doubt it the process is that fast and that's why it distracts me and b) considering how Nintendo altered everything else for the sake of the player's patience, there's no reason to doubt they changed this for the same reason. Yet aside from being associated with the Triforce Quest (and that was moreso the fault of the quest's design), nothing about it called for a super-quick upgrade. Excluding your collective light ring example, any complaints about it are just hyperbole.
...although, I honestly wouldn't mind it if they trashed the whole "Treasure Map light ring disappears before you get a good idea of where it's precisely located" BS. Did they fix that?
I just find it irritating because my eyes can't keep up with the rate of speed the text is popping up at. Like I said before, I think it's something future Zeldas should take note from (I highly doubt anyone looked forward to reading the slow Joy Pendant descriptions over and over again), but just make a text speed option.
I'm still pretty early, but idk, I could probably go back to the original and still play it (though I'd prefer to take a nice, long break from it first). Just chalk this all up to my huge patience threshold. *shrug*
And I don't like some of this stuff being fast because it's too fast for my tastes. You could just chalk it up to me being too used to the original, but just because it had pacing issues doesn't mean that every single action has to be sped-up (which is why I find another poster's suggestion to quicken sidling to be a little ridiculous). It's just streamlining for the sake of steamlining and that's why it annoys me.
My bad, I think I misread your original post. I only just got the Wind's Requiem and the Song of Passing on my last playthrough (yesterday evening), so I just assumed it stayed like that.
Just an FYI, I'm typically over-analytical/nitpicky over Nintendo remasters/remakes so that's why I'm making such a big deal over this, lol. Think of it this way: I could be arguing with you about how the Keese now make different noises!
they've cut out down to under a half second.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Yum, all I need to do left is the Triforce quest and the last part to get to New Game + or whatever.
Got a new television yesterday. Gone from 20" to 32". Now this game looks even more gorgeous!
It's weird that they updated little titbits of text, even removing the 'prefect attendance' award for the Octorok figurine and yet the Fishmen still say this:
despite the fact you can now just click their icon on the map screen to re-read their trivia.
It's weird that they updated little titbits of text, even removing the 'prefect attendance' award for the Octorok figurine and yet the Fishmen still say this:
despite the fact you can now just click their icon on the map screen to re-read their trivia.
Smiles and Cries
Member
Came in for treatment but had a sudden 104 fever got admitted to the hospital
Did not have my Wii U with me but yeah that would have worked
AkimbO_Arcana
Banned
Yes, the camera is mapped to the right stick and you can't invert the y-axis.
I'm not someone who inverts the y-axis in third person games all the time, it depends. If it feels like I move the camera I invert, if it feels like I move the characters head I don't.
Though in the case of WW it's neither of those. it's more like a zoom in/zoom out of the camera, where down zoomes out and up zoomes in. Feels perfect IMO.
Awesome, that's great news.
Robin64
Member
What's this?