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[BGBW]

What's this?

I'll have to check the exact wording of the new description when I get back home but the original said:

Habitat: The Forest Haven, Great Sea
Winner of the Perfect Attendance Award

Because up to that point they had appeared in every Zelda game.

But Twilight Princess broke that combo so I guess they had to take back that award.

 

[D-e-f-]

This one game makes a Wii U so tempting.

Any issues playing solely on the gamepad with headphones?

Is the camera mapped to the right analog stick? No option to invert the vertical axis could make it difficult for me.

Sound works as intended in Off-TV mode.

The camera is EXACTLY like on the GCN. This is not Assassin's Creed. The Y-axis doesn't rotate in a radius around you, it's a zoom function. Not being able to invert is not an issue. I say this as someone whose first action in any game is to look for the invert-Y option. You can invert Y for first person, though. That's where it matters!

 

[areal]

Sound works as intended in Off-TV mode.

The camera is EXACTLY like on the GCN. This is not Assassin's Creed. The Y-axis doesn't rotate in a radius around you, it's a zoom function. Not being able to invert is not an issue. I say this as someone whose first action in any game is to look for the invert-Y option. You can invert Y for first person, though. That's where it matters!

Excellent. Thanks.

 

[Sendou]

Oh God, finally! After 9 days. I'm so happy right now.

That box art is so worth it.

 

[ElectricKaibutsu]

Oh God, finally! After 9 days. I'm so happy right now.

Join us.... join us...

 

[ShipTheCheese]

I never owned a GC so never got the chance to play this game back in the day. Then I purchased a wiiU last year, played NSMB for a bit and then let it gather dust for nearly a year.

Thanks to this HD release I can finally experience what I, after only a few hours playing already think is one of the finest games ever crafted and also appreciate the wiiU for the neat little console it is.

Good times

 

[plagiarize]

Awesome, that's great news.

It's full of tweaks like this. All make the game a lot more replayable. After the nonsense of Skywards Sword telling you what everything was every time you booted the game up, I really hope this means they've finally taken notice of our complaints about things like that.

 

[mrkgoo]

Yes, the camera is mapped to the right stick and you can't invert the y-axis.

I'm not someone who inverts the y-axis in third person games all the time, it depends. If it feels like I move the camera I invert, if it feels like I move the characters head I don't.

Though in the case of WW it's neither of those. it's more like a zoom in/zoom out of the camera, where down zoomes out and up zoomes in. Feels perfect IMO.

Yeah I've heard about complaints if 'no y-axis inversion for canera', but the up/due non camera actusllybusntban axis - it zooms in and out, basically controlling distance of the camera. And in this smmanner it makes sense that when you zoom out abdvnaway from link, the camera gets a bit higher and points down to link.

 

[AGoodODST]

So what's the earliest point you can get the swift sail?

 

[Kjellson]

So what's the earliest point you can get the swift sail?

After Dragon Roost Cavern.

 

[Effect]

Finished the Forsaken Fortress last night. I remembered there being a lot more enemies lurking around but then again my memory can be off. It has been 9 years since I last played that part of the game. Didn't get caught one either. The game looks great but you do see some issues here and there. I can only imagine with a non-upgrade but fully 100% Wii U Zelda is going to look like.

Going to try and put in more time tonight if I can but it's good to be playing a game like this on the Wii U. These are the type of games (action adventure games, though RPGs are a huge fave of mine) I tend to love and I don't think I've enjoyed playing in a gaming session like this since I beat Assassin's Creed 3. Monster Hunter can be to grinding to give the same enjoyment.

At what point do I get the camera I wonder.

 

[Tathanen]

Instead of a counter-argument, how about a question: why is it necessary?

You could argue that plenty of things aren't "necessary." We accept a lot of jank in video games these days, and the games are entirely playable with them. But I certainly think it's desirable for these things to be as polished as possible. When you're re-opening the game's code for probably the only time ever, you better tweak everything that you have even the slightest sense might be kind of irritating. As the devs went through there, that's exactly what they did. I doubt there was a master list that included "slow grapple" from the start, but their playtesting likely identified it as a tweakable area, so they moved on it. Sure, we could've done without it, but I sure like that it's there! Nintendo is master of "give them what they don't know they want" after all.

Think of it this way: I could be arguing with you about how the Keese now make different noises!

..do they really? I don't mind these changes, but I certainly like noticing them. What's different about the sounds?

 

[Moobabe]

I'm so close to caving on this bundle. I really wanted one with W101 though.

 

[Captain Chaos]

I find it very interesting that every time I start playing WW it asks me to choose between playing with the GamePad or the CC pro.

Is this Nintendo preparing the ground for a Hardware pack without the GamePad?

 

[equippedwithtowel]

I find it very interesting that every time I start playing WW it asks me to choose between playing with the GamePad or the CC pro.

Is this Nintendo preparing the ground for a Hardware pack without the GamePad?

Or it's just the level controller options we're placed at.

That seems like a reach.

 

[Kai Dracon]

I'm so close to caving on this bundle. I really wanted one with W101 though.

Any bundle with Pikmin 3 is a grown-ass man's bundle.

 

[PeterVenkman]

I know this is probably the nitpickiest of nitpicks but I miss the sound effect from the GCN version when you clicked "start" on a save file. Why change such a glorious sound??

Original Sound Effect

That sound clip was one of my favorites.

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

I never owned a GC so never got the chance to play this game back in the day. Then I purchased a wiiU last year, played NSMB for a bit and then let it gather dust for nearly a year.

Thanks to this HD release I can finally experience what I, after only a few hours playing already think is one of the finest games ever crafted and also appreciate the wiiU for the neat little console it is.

Good times

Word. After playing Twilight Princess the last few months, I'm already thinking this is the best 3D Zelda, and this version in particular. It's just so...wow. It's so fun to play, and looks as beautiful as any game I've seen.

 

[Captain Chaos]

Or it's just the level controller options we're placed at.

That seems like a reach.

Its just that its in such a prominent place.

 

[blizzardjesus]

I find it very interesting that every time I start playing WW it asks me to choose between playing with the GamePad or the CC pro.

Is this Nintendo preparing the ground for a Hardware pack without the GamePad?

It would take a major firmware revision since the system won't turn on without the gamepad present.

 

[MrPressStart]

I have been wanting this game since I heard about it.. but now I really want it... I have got to move back into our house (under construction) and get my wii u out of storage.

 

[equippedwithtowel]

Its just that its in such a prominent place.

You would want controller selection to be front and center if switching between them in game wasn't possible.

If Nintendo caves on the game pad they won't be telegraphing it before they've fired off their big guns.

 

[marc^o^]

 

[Timeaisis]

Ahh, this game is so great.

 

[Tathanen]

I know this is probably the nitpickiest of nitpicks but I miss the sound effect from the GCN version when you clicked "start" on a save file. Why change such a glorious sound??

Original Sound Effect

That sound clip was one of my favorites.

I was complaining about this exact thing to my wife the other day. I keep expecting it to go "de-dedle dee!" when I choose my file, but NOPE. I dunno why that little jingle integrated itself so deep into my psyche.

 

[Busaiku]

Being a bird is so fun.

 

[NeoRausch]

hey wait a second....

I'm using my old GameCube guide here and there ( lost track of where I'm supposed to go next) and it mentions several times a 200 rupee at the beginning.

they upped it to 500 from the start here

 

[Chao]

I just ordered the game. Haven't played TWW since the original release. I hope I won't regret this decision!

 

[NeoRausch]

I just ordered the game. Haven't played TWW since the original release. I hope I won't regret this decision!

did you like the original?

 

[MrSaturn99]

Sure, we could've done without it, but I sure like that it's there!

And I certainly don't! We can agree it boils down to personal taste, no?

..do they really? I don't mind these changes, but I certainly like noticing them. What's different about the sounds?

It's nothing major. They still chirp, but it's a tad different if you listen closely. Believe me, I played the original way too much recently, lol.

I know this is probably the nitpickiest of nitpicks but I miss the sound effect from the GCN version when you clicked "start" on a save file. Why change such a glorious sound??

Original Sound Effect

That sound clip was one of my favorites.

Augh, I know! I doubt any other change will be as criminal as this one. Even when I saved to turn off the game, I'd click continue just to hear it!

 

[Marjar]

hey wait a second....

I'm using my old GameCube guide here and there ( lost track of where I'm supposed to go next) and it mentions several times a 200 rupee at the beginning.

they upped it to 500 from the start here

Yeah your default max rupees is 500 now. The upgrades are the same though.

A lot of little changes like that really make this game so much better.

 

[BGBW]

If we're going to nitpick sound effects I guess I could chime if with the disappointing loss of the honk when you close Tingle's chart.

 

[D-e-f-]

I find it very interesting that every time I start playing WW it asks me to choose between playing with the GamePad or the CC pro.

Is this Nintendo preparing the ground for a Hardware pack without the GamePad?

Never in a million years with 100% certainty.

 

[Kurtofan]

I don't remember, was there as many underwater 50 ruppees treasure chests in the original?

 

[HawthorneKitty]

Just wondering since I haven't found it, how do you view your song catalog?

 

[Sadist]

It's still a bummer, but the Tri-Force hunt isn't a bottemless rupee pitt anymore. So somewhat good.

 

[Marjar]

Just wondering since I haven't found it, how do you view your song catalog?

I don't know how it works with the Pro Controller, but for the GamePad, whenever you take out your wind waker, the songs are displayed on the touch screen. Really convenient.

 

[llamarawk]

Can you do the

Spoiler

Wind temple and Earth temple

in either order?

Spoiler

I got the powerglove and iron boots but the fiddle player won't appear beneath the waterfall.

 

[PeterVenkman]

I was complaining about this exact thing to my wife the other day. I keep expecting it to go "de-dedle dee!" when I choose my file, but NOPE. I dunno why that little jingle integrated itself so deep into my psyche.

Augh, I know! I doubt any other change will be as criminal as this one. Even when I saved to turn off the game, I'd click continue just to hear it!

Glad I'm not the only one! Yeah I absolutely adored that catchy little sound. It's almost comical how much it bothers me that they changed it. At least the "spleeeush" of the cannon minigame remains.

 

[Anteo]

Just wondering since I haven't found it, how do you view your song catalog?

If using off tv mode, press + after taking out the wind waker.
If not, it just appear on your touchscreen

 

[Marjar]

Can you do the

Spoiler

Wind temple and Earth temple

in either order?

Spoiler

I got the powerglove and iron boots but the fiddle player won't appear beneath the waterfall.

Spoiler

Pretty sure you have to do the Earth Temple first.

 

[HawthorneKitty]

Wow, thanks.
Would have been useful with the 6 note songs; had to Google once.

 

[plagiarize]

I don't know how it works with the Pro Controller, but for the GamePad, whenever you take out your wind waker, the songs are displayed on the touch screen. Really convenient.

I presume pausing with the + button after pulling out the wind waker displays the charts when using the pro controller. that's how it works when doing off screen play with the gamepad.

 

[BGBW]

Just wondering since I haven't found it, how do you view your song catalog?

It appears on GamePad when you take out the Wind Waker.

 

[B-Dubs]

Spoiler

Pretty sure you have to do the Earth Temple first.

I don't think it matters. You don't need

Spoiler

the Mirror Shield to do the Wind Temple

.

 

[ohlawd]

I don't think it matters. You don't need

Spoiler

the Mirror Shield to do the Wind Temple

.

it does matter. Doing Wind Temple first is impossible.


character spoilz

Spoiler

Makar won't show up at his hiding spot until after the Earth Temple is done.

 

[Green Mamba]

Yeah, the

Spoiler

Earth Temple and Wind Temple forced order is completely arbitrary and pretty stupid. Random forced linearity through nothing story or gameplay related. Was hoping they would have changed it, but they didn't. Lame.

 

[B-Dubs]

it does matter. Doing Wind Temple first is impossible.


character spoilz

Spoiler

Makar won't show up at his hiding spot until after the Earth Temple is done.

Are you sure? I'm actually up to this point in my hero mode pajama run, so I'll see if I can do

Spoiler

Wind Temple

first.

 

[Barrow Roll]

I don't think it matters. You don't need

Spoiler

the Mirror Shield to do the Wind Temple

.

You need

Spoiler

Makar

to get in the Wind Temple. If you ask the Deku Tree about the Forest Koroks, he mentions that

Spoiler

Makar is nowhere to be seen and it would be useless to search for him right now.

After beating the Earth Temple this changes to a clue about

Spoiler

hearing the music nearby.

If that's not enough of an indication to do the Earth Temple first then I don't know what is.

 

[ohlawd]

You need

Spoiler

Makar

to get in the Wind Temple. If you ask the Deku Tree about the Forest Koroks, he mentions that

Spoiler

Makar is nowhere to be seen and it would be useless to search for him right now.

After beating the Earth Temple this changes to a clue about

Spoiler

hearing the music nearby.

If that's not enough of an indication to do the Earth Temple first then I don't know what is.

This is exactly right.

I should know hahah. I wasted 2 mins of my life trying to start Wind Temple first.