I realized we haven't even talked about this: France legalizes same-sex marriage and adoption.
!4th country to do so, about time.
!4th country to do so, about time.
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LGBThread |OT3| Friends of Dorothy!
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Please understand. Why are they fakexicans?
USA to be next!
...yeah right
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I... Somehow got 80% overall.
Maybe there is a higher power in the universe.
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Henchmen21
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USA to be next!
...yeah right
Come on now, don't be so pessimistic. Look at the last 4 years. Several states have passed Gay Marriage laws. It'll happen.
MyAbsolution
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Fed gov't needs to just lay the smack down and legalize it for all states.
Fuck the whole "lets let the states decide!" thing...
Thats the only way it will work. Marriage laws are state by state, not a federal matter.
ShadyLurker
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Just out of curiosity, who do you think will be the last holdout?
Cosmic Bus
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There are, like, 6-8 southern and central states that will take another quarter century minimum to legalize gay marriage if it doesn't become a federal law in the meantime.
I'm pretty sure Mississippi is a direct portal to the 1700s.
America isn't a fan of the whole Big Government sort of thing.
Congratulations! Big party planned?
It was nice to see some fun discussion come out of my story. I don't think it would've been a good time to come out. The attendees were bound to arrive any moment, and I'd imagine it'd be weird if they just walked in to a coming out party. I definitely believe that I'll come out to him one day, but it'll happen when it happens. When the conversation kinda heads in that direction and we're not in some meeting room, then I'll say it. I honestly don't think it'll bother him at all, and if it leads to huge discussion then that's okay too. He's someone that can take part in these kinds of discussions and keep it friendly. Normally, I would've stayed on the subject a little more, so he could elaborate on what he considered the homosexual agenda exactly, but that wasn't a good time. I'm sure we'll touch on the subject later.
Why is it such a big deal for you to come out to him? Really, I'm of the opinion that you keep your personal (sexuality) separate from your business (bosses/co-workers), personally. It drives me up the wall that older co-workers that know I'm of the homosexual persuasion causally mention it at times nearly in front of other co-workers. It's like "why would you do that? It isn't any of their business! D:"
Really, him pushing the whole "Glee is pushing the homosexual agenda" just means you shouldn't give him the time of day among that. It'd just be a huge headache and isn't worth it in regards to your personal relationships anyway.
On a lighter note: It's been a while since I've watched Glee. Hopefully the gay dude finally stopped spazzing out and became "normal" instead of a stereotype. :/ I don't mind the handbags, but gurl, settle down.
Really, him pushing the whole "Glee is pushing the homosexual agenda" just means you shouldn't give him the time of day among that. It'd just be a huge headache and isn't worth it in regards to your personal relationships anyway.
On a lighter note: It's been a while since I've watched Glee. Hopefully the gay dude finally stopped spazzing out and became "normal" instead of a stereotype. :/ I don't mind the handbags, but gurl, settle down.
It's not a big deal for me to come out to him. It sucks that I gave you that idea. I didn't mean to. All the people that I've "come out to" only know because the conversation went there. I didn't make a friggin' announcement. Sometimes there's a conversation about what your girl/guy type is and boom that's basically me coming out because I sure as hell am not going to talk about what I look for in a girl. Other times, it's a conversation about coming out or bears or math. It just happens.
Fantastical
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Same. I'm like that for a lot of things... attractiveness is more on a person to person basis.
how often do you see him ?
I love stubble
Not really that often :b
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Whoa, that's so cool that he's gay too. If your parents are super gay hating, you should definitely tell them together. That way when they freak out, you'll at least be there for each other.
Oh gosh, that's gonna suck. Hope they take it well.
Reminds me of a documentary up here where they went through several gay celebrities' early years. Anne Aasheim was featured in the program and she was (I think at the time) top editor at one of the biggest and most well known newspapers in Norway. They focused on her story growing up gay in a religious family (Pentecostalism). That in itself isn't super special, but later it was revealed like with you her brother (and only sibling) also happened to be gay.
Hope you're as lucky as they were because their parents accepted them even though it meant being expelled from the church.
Well he is on the other side of the world so looks I will have to do the honours. At least I will have someone on my side.
I doubt it. My cousin came out a couple years ago and all I have heard is how disgusting it is and against god blah blah.
It wouldn't surprise me if they step down as pastors because of the shame.
DR2K
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I could have sworn I saw a porn just like that.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Does he ever come to visit? Maybe you could both come out together then?
Ok this thing definitely runs in families heh I'm exactly the same, gay brother and gay cousin.
Ok bisexual brother, almost the same.
I would like that, but I don't think he has plans to visit anytime soon. I am planning to move in with my boyfriend so I feel I need to tell them as it's too difficult to hide.
Fimbulvetr
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A twofer? And I assume you two are their only kids?
Does it end with the dad also being secretly gay?
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I see. Well, good luck with that. If they're anything like my parents, you'll probably have to cut them out of your life completely. Hopefully that's not the case though.
that happened to one of my exes -- both he and his brother are gay. Their parents only have two children. At first they thought they weren't going to have any grandchildren
good luck telling them!
DR2K
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Of course.
Escape Goat
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sphinx, are you on a porn site? What is squitit? lol
DR2K
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Googled, looks like a term for people to squat until they get an ass.
In my experience religious people in Norway rarely hate gays so it's easier for them to just look at Jesus. It's kinda the uncomfortable thing they don't want to talk about while banning alcohol is what they really wanna do
You got my support. Can't imagine how hard it is to know your parents hate who you are :/
Is it really a common thing? Not only I remember reading about it being common mostly with twins, but also that younger brothers are more prone than older brothers. Blows my mind for some reason
Haven't got any gay relatives that I know of and my family isn't small. Have heard the hypothesis that the more straight, older brother you have the greater the chances you would be gay. Also matches nicely the gay uncle theory stating it would be evolutionary good to eventually have gay uncles that didn't get children and could instead take care of the other children. I have one older brother who's straight.
It would be really interesting to see if homosexuality is just nature getting it wrong or actually an evolutionary feature. The effects on religions nuts would probably still be nothing though looking at all other studies on homosexuality and of course evolution :/
Yup.
I see. Well, good luck with that. If they're anything like my parents, you'll probably have to cut them out of your life completely. Hopefully that's not the case though.
I am expecting to have to do the same, but I guess you never know.
that happened to one of my exes -- both he and his brother are gay. Their parents only have two children. At first they thought they weren't going to have any grandchildren
good luck telling them!
Thanks! Mum constantly goes on about how she wants grandkids so I'm sure she will think the same lol.
Thanks! It is pretty horrible. It took a long time to accept it myself due to growing up in a religious environment. Was rough going for a while.
Speaking as someone who had to come out to a religious family and not being lucky enough to find acceptance, I really hope things don't go to hell for you. Wishing the best!
ShadyLurker
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Have any bisexual guys ever experienced shifts in "preference" later in life? I would say in my high school years I was very hetero(possibly from social pressure) but now as I'm in my mid twenties I'm noticing a pretty dramatic shift. I find myself checking out guys just as often as girls. I've even caught myself openly flirting with guys sometimes, something I never would have done 5 years ago.
This feels so weird to me like I'm back in that puberty age where I don't know what I want. I will say that I'm kind of... excited and anxious about it. I feel bad I never acted on those feelings before. I won't make that mistake should I get the opportunity again
This feels so weird to me like I'm back in that puberty age where I don't know what I want. I will say that I'm kind of... excited and anxious about it. I feel bad I never acted on those feelings before. I won't make that mistake should I get the opportunity again
Have any bisexual guys ever experienced shifts in "preference" later in life? I would say in my high school years I was very hetero(possibly from social pressure) but now as I'm in my mid twenties I'm noticing a pretty dramatic shift. I find myself checking out guys just as often as girls. I've even caught myself openly flirting with guys sometimes, something I never would have done 5 years ago.
This feels so weird to me like I'm back in that puberty age where I don't know what I want. I will say that I'm kind of... excited and anxious about it. I feel bad I never acted on those feelings before. I won't make that mistake should I get the opportunity again
Long before I discovered I was genderqueer, I've had just the same flow of feelings, social pressures and all. It wasn't until I was more sexually experimental (and well, the mind tends to wonder on the internet) that I found that I was pansexual and never cared much for genders, something I'd be dead afraid to even consider, years ago. I've since made peace with it, thankfully.
I remember some time after I got a big hint I was gay that because I hadn't had a crush at that time and in general have a kinda messed up sexuality I started thinking, comforting myself almost, that I was probably straight. I remember thinking at that time that I had much bigger respect for gay people. While I do not know how it is for straight people growing up in regards to sexuality I think many of those fighting "the gay agenda" could learn a thing or two doubting and fighting their own.
Some of them still fight it of course
It kinda breaks my heart to see people who really aren't homophobic think same sex couples are wrong because it makes it seem natural for children. They aren't mean, they just don't quite get it.
It's still the same sex and I don't know if it was something I didn't notice, but it seems like my preference in men has gotten broader. I'm just 19 BTW so who knows.
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