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Caladrius

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Is it weird that I try to make all my writing without a male to avoid having my personality affect my writing ?

Not particularly but you don't want to make it a habit.

Having some of your personality bleed into your characters a little bit is fine, and in some cases it can be beneficial because it makes a point of connection that you can explore the character more deeply through. It's really only a problem if you let the same traits show through everybody, or you end up making a blatant self-insert (which is generally a giant no-no unless they exist specifically to be humiliated)
 

Kevyt

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Someone post bears to balance the thread.

Here you go. A picture of someone making out with a bear.

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Dead Man

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He kind of did. He even went as far as asking if I have a GF. That man had a brass ball. I wouldn't ask a perfect stranger on a tram if he has a GF. I was just too dumb to realize it and just lamely went "No, I don't have a GF". Yeah, I dun goofed.
It happens, just keep riding that same tram until you see him again :)
Here you go. A picture of someone making out with a bear.

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Hawt.
Here's a bear without pants (or underwear) on. I hope I don't get banned for it!
Super hawt!
 

Kater

Banned
Someone post bears to balance the thread.
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Seriously now, I still don't really understand where the otter ends and the bear begins. I mean, weight and all that. It's really confusing. I would consider someone a bear if he is just a little bit bulky (not fat but just broad shoulders, masculine face, bearded) since I am generally really lean (so I am speaking of judging others from my own standards, not by popular standards). Someone like the Youtuber I mentioned in my last post for example is to me what I would think of as a bear.
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
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Seriously now, I still don't really understand where the otter ends and the bear begins. I mean, weight and all that. It's really confusing. I would consider someone a bear if he is just a little bit bulky (not fat but just broad shoulders, masculine face, bearded) since I am generally really lean (so I am speaking of judging others from my own standards, not by popular standards). Someone like the Youtuber I mentioned in my last post for example is to me what I would think of as a bear.

Otter are skinny or not too muscular hairy guys, bears can be big sized or muscular guys. There are ones that are in the grey area and then we have the cubs who are the young ones.
 

Dead Man

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Seriously now, I still don't really understand where the otter ends and the bear begins. I mean, weight and all that. It's really confusing. I would consider someone a bear if he is just a little bit bulky (not fat but just broad shoulders, masculine face, bearded) since I am generally really lean (so I am speaking of judging others from my own standards, not by popular standards). Someone like the Youtuber I mentioned in my last post for example is to me what I would think of as a bear.

To me an otter is about lean muscle, and a bear is about bulk, muscle or otherwise. I like a bear on the lighter side or a chubby otter, which sort of makes my nomenclature a bit useless lol.

Without seeing the rest of his body, I would say that guy was an otter or cub. But that's just me, not a universal rule.
 
Not particularly but you don't want to make it a habit.

Having some of your personality bleed into your characters a little bit is fine, and in some cases it can be beneficial because it makes a point of connection that you can explore the character more deeply through. It's really only a problem if you let the same traits show through everybody, or you end up making a blatant self-insert (which is generally a giant no-no unless they exist specifically to be humiliated)

But I most of the time want not an ounce of myself in the characters I think of, and sometimes I refuse to even put names or genders on them as I feel like if a plot is good it'll work no matter what people are involved. Yet when trying to write anything remotely long form I see my personality as poison. I'm in one of my moods where I just want to throw all my writing (which is almost entirely writing exercises) at a wall to hate it more so I can force myself to write better
 

Kevyt

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Otter are skinny or not too muscular hairy guys, bears can be big sized or muscular guys. There are ones that are in the grey area and then we have the cubs who are the young ones.

Bear cubs, they're adorable!


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To me an otter is about lean muscle, and a bear is about bulk, muscle or otherwise. I like a bear on the lighter side or a chubby otter, which sort of makes my nomenclature a bit useless lol.

Without seeing the rest of his body, I would say that guy was an otter or cub. But that's just me, not a universal rule.

This is the first time I hear the term "Otter." hmm...

Anyways, here are some very cute baby otters:

 

Golnei

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But I most of the time want not an ounce of myself in the characters I think of, and sometimes I refuse to even put names or genders on them as I feel like if a plot is good it'll work no matter what people are involved. Yet when trying to write anything remotely long form I see my personality as poison. I'm in one of my moods where I just want to throw all my writing (which is almost entirely writing exercises) at a wall to hate it more so I can force myself to write better

You can't divorce your personal biases completely from anything you write. No matter how abstract or alien you try to make things, they'll always reflect some part of your perception or worldview. And if you're already creating plots and short-form exercises you like from within that set of biases, what is it about your personality that you think is poisoning your longer work?
 

Caladrius

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Fuck, this reminds me I still have planning documents to write. I know what I'm doing for Halloween.

But I most of the time want not an ounce of myself in the characters I think of, and sometimes I refuse to even put names or genders on them as I feel like if a plot is good it'll work no matter what people are involved. Yet when trying to write anything remotely long form I see my personality as poison. I'm in one of my moods where I just want to throw all my writing (which is almost entirely writing exercises) at a wall to hate it more so I can force myself to write better

You can't divorce your personal biases completely from anything you write. No matter how abstract or alien you try to make things, they'll always reflect some part of your perception or worldview. And if you're already creating plots and short-form exercises you like from within that set of biases, what is it about your personality that you think is poisoning your longer work?

This pretty much. It's perfectly fine to have your characters reflect aspects of your personality. Unlike what you might perceive, people probably aren't going to see what you do when they come across the characters, since the reader doesn't really know who you are as a person, information you give out notwithstanding. As long as surface similarities and diction (which is easily fixed in revisions) are distinctly different the reader isn't too likely to notice a difference between what's personally inspired or explicitly designed, and it's not something you should worry about a great deal.

I always say I wanna be a screenwriter but my writing is terrible lol
just imagine the dumb angst crap a 17-year old can write

Read more, write more, seek out and understand criticism (both of your own work and the work of others). Doing any one of those three to any significant extent will only help. You get to see what you like, know what works for you as a writer and what can be improved on, and understand what others enjoy and see as good writing.
 
You can't divorce your personal biases completely from anything you write. No matter how abstract or alien you try to make things, they'll always reflect some part of your perception or worldview. And if you're already creating plots and short-form exercises you like from within that set of biases, what is it about your personality that you think is poisoning your longer work?

My personality is odd to me. It doesn't get along with conflict so i end up with stories where nothing happens. I think i'm a reactionary person so without someone else to bounce off of I feel like any characters talking to each other is just me talking to myself. I feel i need a catalyst to even start things. So i struggle with dialogue. I know the reader doesn't know me but I know and it bothers me that i'm doing it. The only way I consistently write now a days if I limit myself as much as reasonably possible. I gave myself the entire year to finish all the crap I've written over the last 5 years or so and still under the mental blocks that just keep me from finishing even the simplest of things (my short story and the collection of my writings). I'll also never finish the harder things (the movie and the revisionist history book). Every couple of months I ask new people in hopes i'll get over this. Today's insecurity got triggered by a friend giving me words for my writing exercise and I intentionally made the "character" female for no reason


tl;dr
I'm crazy and needed to get words out of my head
 
GayGAF is too attractive. At least no one will usurp my position as resident hobgoblin.

Cyans post in the Tim Cook thread is something that I think everyone should quote in every thread from now on when people come in, asking why "them gays always announce their sexuality/etc". ��
Cyan <3 <3 <3

Also, who wants to be part of my LGBT tumblr gang? We just look at hot guys and take naps.
 

Kater

Banned
Otter are skinny or not too muscular hairy guys, bears can be big sized or muscular guys. There are ones that are in the grey area and then we have the cubs who are the young ones.
Sounds like gays are indeed a new species with a great variety of races. &#128516;

To me an otter is about lean muscle, and a bear is about bulk, muscle or otherwise. I like a bear on the lighter side or a chubby otter, which sort of makes my nomenclature a bit useless lol.

Without seeing the rest of his body, I would say that guy was an otter or cub. But that's just me, not a universal rule.
That's all so confusing. :(

Maybe I am not well rested enough to figure all that out.

Here's a photo that shows him sitting on a bed (left).

And a bonus one of his face. <3

Cyan <3 <3 <3

Also, who wants to be part of my LGBT tumblr gang? We just look at hot guys and take naps.
Sounds like what I am already doing, that plus Fantasy Life.

My personality is odd to me. It doesn't get along with conflict so i end up with stories where nothing happens. I think i'm a reactionary person so without someone else to bounce off of I feel like any characters talking to each other is just me talking to myself. I feel i need a catalyst to even start things. So i struggle with dialogue. I know the reader doesn't know me but I know and it bothers me that i'm doing it. The only way I consistently write now a days if I limit myself as much as reasonably possible. I gave myself the entire year to finish all the crap I've written over the last 5 years or so and still under the mental blocks that just keep me from finishing even the simplest of things (my short story and the collection of my writings). I'll also never finish the harder things (the movie and the revisionist history book). Every couple of months I ask new people in hopes i'll get over this. Today's insecurity got triggered by a friend giving me words for my writing exercise and I intentionally made the "character" female for no reason


tl;dr
I'm crazy and needed to get words out of my head
In my experience, it helps a lot to look at how the old masters did it and take inspiration from that. Afterwards, talk to people yourself or watch people interact at all kinds of places (bars, library, internet cafes, super markets, etcetera)

I always say I wanna be a screenwriter but my writing is terrible lol
just imagine the dumb angst crap a 17-year old can write

Everyone starts out small, it's just a matter of persistence and passion and maybe in ten years you got your first novel finished and making the big money with your own art.

See, this is a self portrait of H.R. Giger (the guy who created the most terrifying extraterrestrial being) when he was a teenager.

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And today, every artist, every sci-fi/horror fan knows about him because he went straight ahead with his dream and achieved it.

Same goes for writing, it's a skill you have to train, you don't simply choose a Writing Skill perk like in an RPG. &#128540;
 

Delio

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I always say I wanna be a screenwriter but my writing is terrible lol
just imagine the dumb angst crap a 17-year old can write

Pfft you are young. You stick with it and you can turn your writing into something great. Besides lots of published writers atm are kind of terrible as well lol.
 

Golnei

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Pfft you are young. You stick with it and you can turn your writing into something great. Besides lots of published writers atm are kind of terrible as well lol.

Comparing your unfinished, unedited drafts to the final published work of professionals who have gone through countless, unseen aborted projects and false starts can only invite anxiety; and going for "at least I'm not as bad as [...]" as an excuse similarly isn't all that productive. Because you're still putting a draft up against a published work on the grounds of quality - creating even mediocre art requires a considerable amount of effort, and at least for me, that kind of rationalisation leads to destructive complacency. Mountains of incomplete drafts can become a foundation for something worthwhile, whereas worrying about creating a magnum opus from the outset will most likely lead to a blank page and no improvement in your level of skill.

GayGAF is too attractive. At least no one will usurp my position as resident hobgoblin.

You'll probably have some competition there. I'm biologically indistinguishable from the common blobfish.
 

Delio

Member
Comparing your unfinished, unedited drafts to the final published work of professionals who have gone through countless, unseen aborted projects and false starts can only invite anxiety; and going for "at least I'm not as bad as [...]" as an excuse similarly isn't all that productive. Because you're still putting a draft up against a published work on the grounds of quality - creating even mediocre art requires a considerable amount of effort, and at least for me, that kind of rationalisation leads to destructive complacency. Mountains of incomplete drafts can become a foundation for something worthwhile, whereas worrying about creating a magnum opus from the outset will most likely lead to a blank page and no improvement in your level of skill.



You'll probably have some competition there. I'm biologically indistinguishable from the common blobfish.

I never ment to say that all of those writers are terrible and that they should be directly compared. Besides I can list writers who are seemingly professonal and still churn out terrible things. I dont mean for him to only aim for one great work, simply to keep going and not just go "My work is terrible I shouldnt pursue what I want to do."

Ive had tons of drafts in my time that lay unfinished but It only helps me going forward.
 
So it's now Halloween. I will have to somehow prevent myself from binge eating candy all day, and then stop the Ukrainian in me from buying a ton of cheap clearance candy tomorrow.

And I was doing so well...

(By the way, at 19 pounds lost now! =D)
 

Son Of D

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Christian Collins <3



Dem cheekbones.

*Fans self*

Danisnotonfire is super-cute as well. I *think* he might be gay, but he's private about it. It doesn't really matter anyway. :)



He's a YouTube vlogger, for those who don't know.



You'll just nitpick anything, won't ya? :)

I think I follow that youtuber. Another pornstar I like Bastian Hart.

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Oh my. Ooh my. On the subject of cute Youtubers. There's charlieissocoollike. I think it's the eyes.


I always say I wanna be a screenwriter but my writing is terrible lol
just imagine the dumb angst crap a 17-year old can write

Stick with it. Trust me, the shit I wrote when I was 17 was so bad that I find it embarrassing to even read them now. You'll get better at it, don't worry.
 

Kater

Banned
Wouldn't mind to get stuffed by him like a teddy bear.
Sorry xD

Two favorite hair colors.
I like 'em too. What's the right one though? Coffee colour? I don't know the name of it, my last bf teached me a lot of colours but I forgot all their names for the most part. That short memory of mine. :(
 

Caladrius

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What majors are you considering? And what year are you?

Either physics (haven't decided on a specialization) or Chemistry (Material Sciences). I'm a year and a half in, but only have a single Chemistry credit, statistics and pre-calculus to my name. (I was buying time with Gen-ed classes until I could come to a decision.)
 

Caladrius

Member
Not entirely sure whether or not to think out the history too much if it's not the focus of the story to any significant extent. (Like only one important thing happens outside of North America)

What spooky plans do you fine LGBTQIA folks have for this weekend?

Sit in house
write
masturbate to said writing
watch movie
resent former friends
go to sleep
 

VegiHam

Member
A friend and I are gunna hang out, eat sweets, drink, watch scary movies and be too cool to pay crazy prices to go clubbing tonight :p
 
I think I'm going to a party as a friend's plus one, though I still need to figure out my costume. I might do Wolverine or something. My facial hair grows pretty fast so maybe I'll have a full Jackman beard by this evening. lol
 

daripad

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If my copies of Bayonetta and Hyrule Warriors arrive today I'll play tyiae games tonight. If not I'll just Smash online.

Tomorrow I have one classes and then I'll be studying most of the day. If I have some energy left I might invite my father to the movies.

On Sunday I will visit the graveyard to see my mother and I will eat tamales all day
 
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