Lights and Waves
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So is it safe to assume that there are big plans for SFV DLC in the future?
Liam Robertson on what happened with MvC:I
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Poltergust
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How does SEGA fall into that list? Not only do they own Atlus, but they released one of the best 2D platformers ever just a couple of months ago.
The crazy part is that as poorly as Capcom has been doing, they are doing much better than SEGA & Konami.
AWizardDidIt
Member
That's their claim with what they're going to do with Marvel Infinite too though
BronsonLee
Member
They've steadily supported it for a while now, ya?
sixteen-bit
Member
It's gonna be supported through 2020
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Get ready for Chun outfits
Zero probably, and I wouldn't really understand a need to make a whole new model for Zero considering how simple he is.
Nemesis got some of the most drastic improvements, though.
MvC3:
MvC:I:
Different textures, clothing, rocket launcher, detail, etc. It's even more noticeable in the cutscenes.
The game has different models, it's mostly just the art style throwing people off (particularly because it's uglier).
Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh that's what's weird about it.
I also think they need to downsize or at least try a different model. They can't keep making these "big" games anymore using this same strategy. Idk what they have to do but times have changed. They gotta go back to the drawing board because it's not the same as the old days. I can't even think of the last Capcom title that came out that I wasn't somewhat worried about.
BronsonLee
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TheSpoiler
Member
Zero, maybe. But nemesis has way better texture work and shit isn't as simple as hitting a button ya know? I don't doubt a couple of them were but it's silly to assume all based on animations
That was for the base game ... and would not be the first game I heard that has a bigger budget for it's dlc than for the base game =P
Tacorona72
Member
No surprise here, but still disappointing.
The gameplay is solid and I love watching tournaments for it, but everything else?
The gameplay is solid and I love watching tournaments for it, but everything else?
Waddle Dee
Member
What are you talking about? I already said Capcom has earned the negative reception by players and fucked up a lot of things with Infinite (and their other recent games) but you're just straight-up lying about things.
DoctorFish
Member
How is that a major takeaway, let alone a takeaway at all?
Agree
Bonus opinion from my ass: priced Infinite at $30, had double the buyers on launch, much higher install base then had a shit tonne more people to flog DLC to
Some (honest) questions after watching the video:
- Why is Capcom the one determining the (assumed low) budget for this game's development and not Marvel?
- Did Marvel order the game to be made from Capcom (and as such perhaps have a say in the budget Capcom could spend) or did Capcom request the licenses from Marvel instead (possibly meaning Capcom alone had a say with regards to its budget)?
- Wouldn't it be in Marvel's best interest to have a game in the market featuring their IP's that looks on par with NetherRealm's Injustice 2 as DC's competing fighting series, especially considering the fact that MvC:I serves as a vehicle to market their characters and movies?
- And if the above is the case, wouldn't it have made sense for Marvel to help increase the budget for development and/or marketing in case Capcom was stingy and/or unable to spend more, or is this simply not how this whole license thing works?
Surely it couldn't be as simple as Capcom management being stingy that has caused this game to feel lacklustre to many fans in terms of its presentation and launch roster, all the while Marvel sitting back and watching it happen...can it?
- Why is Capcom the one determining the (assumed low) budget for this game's development and not Marvel?
- Did Marvel order the game to be made from Capcom (and as such perhaps have a say in the budget Capcom could spend) or did Capcom request the licenses from Marvel instead (possibly meaning Capcom alone had a say with regards to its budget)?
- Wouldn't it be in Marvel's best interest to have a game in the market featuring their IP's that looks on par with NetherRealm's Injustice 2 as DC's competing fighting series, especially considering the fact that MvC:I serves as a vehicle to market their characters and movies?
- And if the above is the case, wouldn't it have made sense for Marvel to help increase the budget for development and/or marketing in case Capcom was stingy and/or unable to spend more, or is this simply not how this whole license thing works?
Surely it couldn't be as simple as Capcom management being stingy that has caused this game to feel lacklustre to many fans in terms of its presentation and launch roster, all the while Marvel sitting back and watching it happen...can it?
That seems unlikely to me.
If it's true that S1 DLC character were finished months ago and withheld and it's true that MvC:I had the smallest budget they could get away with then that leads me to think that Capcom did not want to invest seperately in DLC characters for Season 1 because they wanted to see how sales panned out.
Sales have gone very poorly. They've lost nothing investing in Season 1 DLC because it was cut from the base game. They aren't going to pump in more money, though, the playerbase and hype isn't there.
I bet they still broke even on this.
None of that seems surprising in any way. Still not sure Capcom survives this gen.
That's not how licensing works.
Capcom pays Marvel for their license. Marvel has guidelines for the use of their license. But the Marvel makes a profit regardless because they aren't investing into the game, they've got the money already.
Capcom determines the budget and scope of the project, Marvel tells them what they can and can't do with characters and setting but they don't deal with the other aspects of it.
Capcom should be able to excel in most of those genres. Killer Instinct seems to have done pretty well for itself, Dragon's Dogma is a game people are begging for a sequel to, they have a ton of beloved characters they can't figure out how to wrap a gacha game around, and one of their biggest characters that everyone complains is underused has a gun for an arm.
Shadoken
Member
Think you got the names messed up.
Persona 5,Yakuza 0,Kiwami,Sonic Mania,TW Warhammer2.
Apart from Konami being dead. Dont see how its all that bad.
TVexperto
Member
I hope news sites will pick this up but they probably wont because they are afraid to get blacklisted
ShockingAlberto
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NeoRaider
Member
Game looks like a hot mess and is doing so bad on Steam. This is not surprising to me at all! They deserve it.
I am curious to see how will Injustice 2 do on Steam. Let's hope it won't be priced 60$. But i am pretty sure that it will if they include all the characters, which again is not that bad i guess when i look at PS4/XB1 prices for full package.
I am curious to see how will Injustice 2 do on Steam. Let's hope it won't be priced 60$. But i am pretty sure that it will if they include all the characters, which again is not that bad i guess when i look at PS4/XB1 prices for full package.
No way Capcom drops support for the game just a few months after release and before it even reaches its first Evo.
Blacklisted from who? Capcom?
I'm sure they're not worried these days lol. It's not like Capcom's Activision lol.
MAtgS
Member
I'm kinda ok with that tbh.
But if there's no profit to be made, what's the point?
Oh, we will definitely be getting more costumes, don't worry about that.
I mean, yeah, mistakes happen, I just feel people should know better than to trust people on the internet blidnly.
Especially if they have been banned before due to making shit up.
Which is to say, as funny and realistic as it sounds, don't trust this Liam guy either, please.
I completely forgot SEGA owned Atlus.
Olengie
Member
Yep. At least SEGA is smart and is letting ATLUS do their own thing for the most part.
Who was exactly shilling this game? Most of the FGC talking heads straight up said the game looked like ass.
It was a meme for a reason.
SuperBattleGenius
Neo Member
It's a goddamn shame, too.
Roster-wise, this game is an abomination. Gameplay? I think it beats MVC3 easily.
Roster-wise, this game is an abomination. Gameplay? I think it beats MVC3 easily.
Capcom just has so many problems. They need to hire a bunch of young people that grew up on Capcom games to do the leg work in all departments. Finance, marketing, etc. Also the people at the top need to be replaced because they continue to make bad decisions as a company and that usually comes from the top.
I see. Thanks for answering.
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
At this point I wouldn't mind if Capcom took the mechanics from this game and made a Capcom exclusive VS game with it
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
It's based on a sketchy source. No one is gonna look at this as credible.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Gameplay is definitely better, changing to 2 on 2 and removing assists stops a lot of the 'one combo = all kill' nonsense.
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
What all of this boils down to is that capcom didn't put any love and care into mvci and it clearly shows. Maybe they couldn't because they couldn't pull together a big enough budget for it. But I'd argue this entry on the series may end up doing more harm than good to the franchise. It's quite the shame as I love the Vs series.
Nrs had a day one dlc character behind a pre-order wall, twice. This whole industry is past the point of scummy tactics.