It was already posted, but this 16-bit retrospective from Square Enix is probably the best and quickest way to catch up on the salient plot points from XIII/XIII-2.
At the very least it'll make any detailed plot summary less intimidating.
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Lightning Returns: FINAL FANTASY XIII PC |OT| Light Eternal
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It was already posted, but this 16-bit retrospective from Square Enix is probably the best and quickest way to catch up on the salient plot points from XIII/XIII-2.
At the very least it'll make any detailed plot summary less intimidating.
texhnolyze
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FFXIII - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0LxPV6wUhQ
FFXIII-2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugCB0XSPHP0
Yeah, I'm planning to do so. Can't stand to continue playing FFXIII after arriving at the Grand Pulse. I might give XIII-2 a try first though.
LR isn't "hard" per se, but the global time system basically ensures that a first pass through the game won't feel all that relaxing. You need to be in particular places at particular times, and there's a global time limit. The game has a reasonable design for iterative NG+ing, but the first playthrough (when you don't know what you're doing and aren't sure where you stand in terms of finishing in a single cycle of the game) isn't going to feel relaxed.
On easy mode, with lots of chronostasis spam, you can keep the actual timing pressure pretty lenient though.
Hikami
Member
Well that was entertaining to watch but that ending just left me confused lol.
Thanks, that answered my questions from the other video. Bring on Lightning Returns.
The battles themselves are definitely harder than both predecessors by quite a bit.Its easily the hardest FF game.
You gotta understand how to fight the enemies in order to beat them properly,especially if you start NG on Normal.
And the fights are rewarding mechanically.
ಠ_ಠ
Am waiting for the PC port revelations. I want to see how
shitty
didn't
and 13-2
Mad Season
Banned
for someone who has not played a final fantasy in yeeeears, should I start with this game on PC? If not, which one?
texhnolyze
Banned
Baaaaad idea.
Play the first two XIII first, or watch the videos posted above. Or just wait for X/X-2 Remaster.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Oh my god holy shit lol @ the Caius/Yeul scene.
Too bad this port is coming out now.
I played through FFXIII & XIII-2 on PC, would like to complete the trilogy, but I'm in the middle of Yakuza 5 now.
All good trailers.
I especially enjoyed inside the square.I'd love more documentary styled videos like that in the future.
guybrushfreeman
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Is there a good guide to follow? I don't mind just following a guide to try and get the most done in a single play through.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
More like trollspective, showing me a version of the game I'd rather play than the actual game.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I've played a lot of record keeper. I got sick of the BS content delivery and limited access events. It had its moments but far to few for the amount of time you put in to get there.
Garrett Hawke
Member
I really hope Lightning will return in a new game on the eighth generation of consoles (I would even be more than okay with them adding her to FFXV, the lineup is really bland atm). Feminist icon and pastel haired queen imo.
Oh I know, I remember you posting in the OT quite a bit.
Still always hilarious to bring up.
why
This looks like a decent guide.
XIII-2 is amazing. Skewed tastes are good.
Yea, 13-2 was the best rpg I played last gen on the home consoles.
13 was boring as hell. Really diminished the franchise.
I think I've seen everything from hate hate hate to like like like to hate like hate to like hate like and every other possible permutation.
i.e. you're on your own.
For what it's worth, the story doesn't quite take itself seriously and the you can make a case for the gameplay being the best ATB/real-time hybrid out of the franchise.
i.e. you're on your own.
For what it's worth, the story doesn't quite take itself seriously and the you can make a case for the gameplay being the best ATB/real-time hybrid out of the franchise.
Thisss.
Fair enough. I'll pick it up once I'm done with SOMA this week then.
(Is Snow less of an insufferable douche, or should I brace myself for more of the same?)
Lanrutcon
Member
In a world where FFXII doesn't exist, sure.
He was the best char in XIII rofl it only gets worse from there.
TheBlackMarvel
Member
I think Snow improved as the franchise went on.
I hated him in 13 but by Lightning Returns I liked the guy.
When I replayed the first two games on PC I liked him a lot more, perhaps knowing where he ends up makes his arc more tolerable.
I still remember seeing the Toriyama conference with roses lol
Rising_Hei
Member
XIII-2 was 75 % fillers tho and the ability to level up as much as you wanted made things too easy... I also hated the bleed system
And it wasn't conclusive ending up on a massive cliffhanger -_-
XIII battle system makes the game worth a playthrough
Get ready for an awful first 10 hours tho
But it has Academia 400AF.
Everything about the game is worth once you reach it. Best town/city in any RPG ever.
"you could make a case" isn't exactly the same as typical GAF "the best ever" hyperbole.
FFXII exists. You could also make a case for THAT being the best ATB/realtime hybrid.
Why get so defensive?
I LOVE that rendition of Heart of Chaos, shame there's no full version of that.
FFXII is obviously the better overall game ,but LR's battle system is on another level.
Its systems in and outside of battle are far more engaging than XII's gambit system.
I need not post anything about it.lol.
Well, that's besides the point I was making. My original post was basically along the lines of "Lightning Returns' battle system is up there, you can make a case for it"
"Not in a world where XII exists" is baffling as a reply to that. XII exists, so you can't actually make a case?
Finally I get to see how this whole debacle ends! Been waiting for this one on PC. The PS3 version is like 15 bucks used, so I've been tempted quite a few times. The DLC is the main reason I decided to wait for this version and I'm glad to see its all here sans the Aeris costume. ;-; Maybe someone will figure a way to add it and/or activate it down the line. What a great time to be a pc leaning RPG-gamer!
Well good to see you're more optimistic than I. Then again a pessimist is never disappointed.
Saying that I'm still struggling through XIII and XIII-2 on PC and while I have finished both of those on PS3 and ditched Lightning Returns I've go so much shit going on at the moment that 'moar gaems!' is not really the answer.
Afaik the "fix" wasn't to reinstall the driver, but to install a different driver entirely. That aside, it only works if you use xbone controller as a wired controller.
With the wireless dongle it's impossible.
I don't think your assertion that MS messed it up is accurate, more than likely is that 13 and 13-2 don't use xinput or dinput, but some kind of homecooked weird thing that behaves kind of like xinput but isn't really one. Just a guess though.
The weirdest thing about the problem is that in every affected menu where the controller seemingly dies, you can just hammer LT for a few times to resurrect it. It's nuts.
crap only 4 hours left!! yay ayyay
on another note, i'm super excited that more and more games from ps3 are coming to pc
Really looking forward for this one. I beat FF XIII in PS3 (one of my favourite games), but I never finished XIII-2 (played for 10-15 hours I think). Should I go again for FF XIII-2 and complete it before this or may I simply watch the cutscenes in youtube in order the understand the whole story?
FFXII is too slow (thank god for IZJS) and the proper way to play is actually making gambits do everything for you.
Combat is not the strength of XII
I think you've confused XII with X-2.
RipperGrim
Member
Man if the whole XIII series was remade like this I would buy it so hard.
Vincent Grayson
Member
I disagree. The gambits are a unique and interesting way to build complex AI that works much better than your average party AI in an RPG (especially games like Ni no Kuni), but the game never "plays itself", and most significant fights (hunts and bosses) require you to still make a bunch of decisions on the fly, because the gambits really can only do so much, and are much more suited to a decision you'll always make (like, enemy weak to fire -> use fire-element spells).
What the gambits did do, IMO, is highlight just how silly random (and for these purposes, random means the unimportant fights) encounters are in RPGs. You could throw together a gambit system for, I'd say, 90% of JRPGs, and it'd be perfectly functional for most fights. To me, that right there shows you how intellectually and developmentally lazy these kinds of fights are, and I'd love to see more games say "You know what, let's just excise this element from the game entirely."
fluffydelusions
Member
I'm just hoping for a solid 60fps. I heard the game had performance issues on PS3
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
Thanks for the reply! Looks really useful.
Last time I played the only inputs I had to do manually for endgame were ressing fallen party members (because gambit slots are limited and the battles stop themselves when your character dies so why bother with a slot there) and using limit breaks when I needed them. It's not a flaw, I actually had fun 'programming' the IA to be reliable on its own.
We're going OT anyway, the point is that I think LR battle system is stronger than the one in XII.
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