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LIMBO |OT| What awaits at the edge of Hell?
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Mr. Spinnington
Banned
just finished this after a 3-hour sitting
i've had better
i've had better
There are several changes I have found in the PlayStation Network version of Limbo from the XBLA version.
There are no:
-Leaderboards
-Percentages
-Options to limit disturbing Content
-Old Non-Trophy Secret Eggs
-There is a secret PSN trophy new to this version.
-The Chapter selection screen has more chapter markers
-The labyrinth
Not sure how many differences in total there are, but this new version of the game is definitely a somewhat different experience.
There are no:
-Leaderboards
-Percentages
-Options to limit disturbing Content
-Old Non-Trophy Secret Eggs
-There is a secret PSN trophy new to this version.
-The Chapter selection screen has more chapter markers
-The labyrinth
beneath the arthropod has been changed. after the trophy egg there is a mound with candles in the ground and a gate blocking the way forward. The amount of candles lit is how many Trophy eggs you have found. After finding all 10 trophy eggs, the gate in this sunlit area will open, leading to a new dark level. The Secret Egg in this level unlocks the secret "Ding!" Gold Trophy
Not sure how many differences in total there are, but this new version of the game is definitely a somewhat different experience.
I played a little of this earlier and it's fantastic - it's one of those games where you almost immediately seem to enter a higher state of consciousness as the game teaches you immediately to fear EVERYTHING! D:
The slightest change in lighting, noise or even a clump of grass that's spikier than usual are cause for alarm!
I also bought Braid recently, another indie darling that I've been waiting to play... and, eh, that game's really not for me. I found reading the books very touching (I really need to read up about the game) but the gameplay doesn't do it for me at all.
The slightest change in lighting, noise or even a clump of grass that's spikier than usual are cause for alarm!
I also bought Braid recently, another indie darling that I've been waiting to play... and, eh, that game's really not for me. I found reading the books very touching (I really need to read up about the game) but the gameplay doesn't do it for me at all.
Played about an hour last night and was mostly blown away. The only complaint I have is it's not consistent when the dude's legs are going to break. In the first 30 seconds of the game, it seems like he has the tibias of a baby bird. Later in the game I can fall half the screen without dying.
HawksWinStanley
Member
Kolgar said:
I noticed the triple pack is $10 at Best Buy right now. I was considering picking it up just for Limbo.
Just finished the PSN version, pretty good game. The aesthetics were amazing, and so was the overall mood. Some of the puzzles were really clever, but the biggest negative was how much trial-and-error there was in the game. There's no fucking way I'll try the "finish the game in one sitting, <5 deaths" trophy since several platforming segments almost felt luck-based.
In my opinion, the game's definitely worth all those super high review scores, but it's still a neat and polished little platformer. Definitely worth a playthrough.
In my opinion, the game's definitely worth all those super high review scores, but it's still a neat and polished little platformer. Definitely worth a playthrough.
RoaringHawk
Member
Finished the game. Only one trophy left
The hidden trophy was a bit tough to say the least. Impressive game. Loved the style of it. Totally worth the money.
The hidden trophy was a bit tough to say the least. Impressive game. Loved the style of it. Totally worth the money.
RoaringHawk
Member
Conciliator
Banned
This is vague stuff about the ending so I put it all in spoilers:
Limbo is really good, and I'm almost prepared to say that it has my favorite ending of any game, full stop. It's subtle, stately, and communicates an ambiguity and wisdom that simply does not exist in video game land. It's perfect really. My only complaint about is that the little blurb that made the made the rounds "A boy searches for his lost sister" or whatever the hell it was. If I went in not knowing what I was searching for, not knowing what I might find, that ending would have been even more powerful.
gutterboy44
Member
This was well worth the wait. Had a good session last night. Amazing game. Glad there are developers out there trying things like this. Now the painfully long wait for Bastion to come to PSN (if ever).
shawnlreed
Member
Loved the PS3 Hidden Trophy.
Challenging, but not impossible.
Just the right type of add on to make a good game that much better.
Challenging, but not impossible.
Just the right type of add on to make a good game that much better.
fierrotlepou
Member
Damn, this game is awesome. I'll definitely buy the full game once I have some cash.
Fuck that
Fuck that
spider.
dark_inferno
Member
After playing the demo i have to say that its cool... but not worth 15.
Finished the game yesterday and loved it. Really glad i bought it.
The atmosphere, graphics and sound are fantastic and the gameplay and puzzles are fun for the most part. I never felt a real difference between the first and second half of the game, a criticism that many seem to have.
The only gameplay element i had a bit of trouble with was changing gravity mid-air with the signs in the last levels. The mechanism of activating seemed a bit fussy and button presses not always registered.
This game goes straight into my list of favourite "downloadable/small" games. I certainly hope we'll see more of this game developer.
As a sidenote, this felt like the most "violent"/"mature" game i have played so far. The death scenes were rather gruesome but it fitted the tone and atmosphere of the game.
The atmosphere, graphics and sound are fantastic and the gameplay and puzzles are fun for the most part. I never felt a real difference between the first and second half of the game, a criticism that many seem to have.
The only gameplay element i had a bit of trouble with was changing gravity mid-air with the signs in the last levels. The mechanism of activating seemed a bit fussy and button presses not always registered.
This game goes straight into my list of favourite "downloadable/small" games. I certainly hope we'll see more of this game developer.
As a sidenote, this felt like the most "violent"/"mature" game i have played so far. The death scenes were rather gruesome but it fitted the tone and atmosphere of the game.
Ivan A Nguyen
Member
I beat this game during the week after getting the triple pack via Best Buy. It's a solid game, but it should have been named "Rule of 3" because things became much easier when I realized that I should not give up on a possible solution until I've done it 3 times. I don't think it was worth $15 so I am glad I only paid a fraction of that money.
Always-honest
Banned
awesome game. My gf loves it too.
Limbo was well worth the budget price, sure other 2d adventure games I've loved in the past like Heart of Darkness and the Oddworld games were longer but also full price titles at the time. I think people are spoiled with the cheap quality titles on XBLA/PSN/Steam these days. It is interesting though when you see devs like Twisted Pixel putting up awesome stuff like Ms Splosion Man for 800 MSP.
No matter, I had a great time with this game (when it released over a year ago....) god damn I wish there were more 2D adventure games this gen in the vein of Limbo, Heart of Darkness and the Oddworld series. I wonder how the HD remake of Abes Oddysee is going, haven't heard anything since January or so.
No matter, I had a great time with this game (when it released over a year ago....) god damn I wish there were more 2D adventure games this gen in the vein of Limbo, Heart of Darkness and the Oddworld series. I wonder how the HD remake of Abes Oddysee is going, haven't heard anything since January or so.
WrenchNinja
Member
Glad I still had Plus active when I bought it. Good game albeit on the short side.
Just played through again in one sitting, took a little under 2 hours (way over the five death limit though). Still need to get a few of the orbs as well.
EDIT: Does the game let you know when you're over the five deaths? I could have sworn there was an extra pipe organ style note but I might have been imagining it.
EDIT: Does the game let you know when you're over the five deaths? I could have sworn there was an extra pipe organ style note but I might have been imagining it.
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Kafel said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijm-1hjmklM
PS3/probably PC exclusive. Probably the hardest stage in the entire game too.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Not finished this yet, but I'm happy enough with my purchase (PSN).
The game Limbo most reminds me of thus far is Eric Chahi's Another World which I absolutely adored back in the day.
I'm kind of in two minds about how I feel about this gameplay in 2011 though; on one hand the presentation is stunning and the actual mechanical design is very strong, but I must admit to finding the relentless trial and error gameplay a bit off-putting.
Its a weird one, because I appreciate what Playdead are doing but I am finding it a bit monotonous, and dare I say unrewarding to play. Essentially the "hooks" are all tied to the numerous darkly comic way the Boy can get offed by the enemies and hazards, but there's very little sense of reward for actually overcoming/avoiding these threats... all you get is another opportunity to die until you figure out the next problem.
I understand the lack of overt progression rewards fits with the overall theme and tone of Limbo, but there's a bit too much stick and not enough carrot I guess for my taste.
Demon's Souls RPG underpinnings justified and strengthened the trial-and-error aspect as you could enhance your character EVEN IF you found yourself temporarily unable to pass a certain point - running back to your last death-spot and reclaiming your lost Souls could feel like a victory in itself...
In Limbo, you are simply road-blocked by the puzzles. Sure you don't get put back far, but with no lives/health/experience its just an inconvenience/annoyance, and as the only reward is progression (to more of the same), I don't really feel incentivized to push through.
The game Limbo most reminds me of thus far is Eric Chahi's Another World which I absolutely adored back in the day.
I'm kind of in two minds about how I feel about this gameplay in 2011 though; on one hand the presentation is stunning and the actual mechanical design is very strong, but I must admit to finding the relentless trial and error gameplay a bit off-putting.
Its a weird one, because I appreciate what Playdead are doing but I am finding it a bit monotonous, and dare I say unrewarding to play. Essentially the "hooks" are all tied to the numerous darkly comic way the Boy can get offed by the enemies and hazards, but there's very little sense of reward for actually overcoming/avoiding these threats... all you get is another opportunity to die until you figure out the next problem.
I understand the lack of overt progression rewards fits with the overall theme and tone of Limbo, but there's a bit too much stick and not enough carrot I guess for my taste.
Demon's Souls RPG underpinnings justified and strengthened the trial-and-error aspect as you could enhance your character EVEN IF you found yourself temporarily unable to pass a certain point - running back to your last death-spot and reclaiming your lost Souls could feel like a victory in itself...
In Limbo, you are simply road-blocked by the puzzles. Sure you don't get put back far, but with no lives/health/experience its just an inconvenience/annoyance, and as the only reward is progression (to more of the same), I don't really feel incentivized to push through.
Heart of Black
Member
I just grabbed the triple pack on XBLA... loving the game. The arm animation when climbing was pissing me off for a long while, but the game became so engrossing that I stopped even noticing it.
The deaths are crazy and the sound design is top notch. I feel genuinely tense at a lot of times despite the fact that the checkpoint system is so forgiving.
The deaths are crazy and the sound design is top notch. I feel genuinely tense at a lot of times despite the fact that the checkpoint system is so forgiving.
So you're saying you want these puzzle platformers (LIMBO, Braid, Super Meat Boy and the likes) to be cluttered with health bars, experience points, extra lives, and horse amor just so you can get passed a puzzle without doing any figuring? What's the fun in all that? Finding a way out of a puzzle yourself is rewarding enough. I'm sorry if you don't feel that way 'cause you just wasted $$$ bub.Clear said:
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
schick85 said:
What I'm saying is, why does it need to be so binary?
I don't mind being (temporarily) stumped by a puzzle or encounter, what I do mind is finding myself with nothing else to do or think about in that situation.
I agree there is fun to be had in solving puzzles, but in Limbo everything resolves to either success or fail/scene-reset. Where are the alternate solutions? Where are the mechanics that allow one to modify the parameters of each trial (In Demon's Souls not only was character state and build a variable, but you had manipulable global elements like world tendency to leverage to your advantage/disadvantage), so as to provide multiple ways to tackle the problem?
Why use physics but deny the player any emergent solutions arising from its usage? It reduces a powerful technology to a simple visual effect!
Life/Health systems are useful because if everything resolves to an absolute live/die result every trial that can provide those outcomes is essentially isolated from the rest of the game. What's gone before and what's yet to come are irrelevant because you are absolutely bound to be in a certain predetermined state/position at the start of each.
Its great for developers because its a lot easier to tune difficulty when you are working with absolutes, but it devalues player agency because there are literally no consequences to their performance. You either succeed, perfectly, or fail utterly - no half measures or corner cases to deal with.
My point is that if the mechanics allow you to scrape by a particularly challenging encounter albeit in a weakened state, that has a knock-on effect for any following encounter, modifying its difficulty. The player is allowed some latituide to shape their own experience.
Whereas in Limbo, its just an arbitrary sequence of stand-alone puzzles that could essentially be placed in any order once their fundamental mechanics have been established.
Which brings up the topic of context.
When the whole presentation is so tastefully minimalist as to eschew any kind of overt feedback to the player congratulating them for their successes or indicating any larger sense of progression towards a goal it basically means that the whole game is only as good as the next puzzle.
Essentially the whole weight of the game is supported at any given point by its presentation (delightful, admittedly) and a simplistic puzzle with a binary solution and outcome.
By any standard that's very thin, unadventurous design. Take away the nice graphics and there's really not a lot there, which I'm sorry to say is a bit of a missed opportunity in my opinion.
You seem to understand that this is essentially a puzzle game, so I'm not sure what the issue is. Your reward is seeing whatever the game chooses to throw at you next - I'd liken this in pure gameplay terms (although nowhere near as random/punishing) to Rick Dangerous more than Demon's Souls (which isn't a puzzle game at all).Clear said:
Well, that wasn't so hard at all. Played through it again this afternoon to familiarise myself with the puzzles, and again this evening and managed it in about 90 minutes with only two deaths. ^_^Number45 said:
Excuse the DP.
Wow, the extra section is amazing. If anything I'd say it's a shame that it wasn't some kind of tutorial level, because it teaches you to be acutely aware of your surroundings and in particular the audio.
I may be "done" with the game (I'll play it again from time to time I'm sure), but I don't begrudge what I paid for this game one bit (£8 with PS+), and I wouldn't have minded even without the discount.
Wow, the extra section is amazing. If anything I'd say it's a shame that it wasn't some kind of tutorial level, because it teaches you to be acutely aware of your surroundings and in particular the audio.
I may be "done" with the game (I'll play it again from time to time I'm sure), but I don't begrudge what I paid for this game one bit (£8 with PS+), and I wouldn't have minded even without the discount.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I got to the bonus section last night, and it was seriously great. More difficult in terms of platforming than the rest of the game, sure, but so fun to go through, and best of all, different enough from the rest of the game that it never felt like a chore, or been-there-done-that. Oh, and best of all, the theme of the level goes perfectly hand in hand with the section that leads to it.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
Is this game released on PC yet because when I google search I see people already talking about how they have the PC version. I'm getting the PC version, but not till Friday after I finish school once and for all, but it's sad that creative and artistic games like this is being leaked days early.
Infamous Chris
Banned
There was nothing like looking for the 10 secret % eggs on the XBLA version that raise up your rank on the leaderboards, ESPECIALLY when it first came out and there were no walk-throughs. Is there really no leaderboards in the PS3 version? Are these eggs still obtainable (these are not the achieve/trophy eggs, these are just random ones that are VERY hard to find).
Also, to people complaining about the 5 deaths or less trophy/achievement, the last secret secret hidden egg is by beating the game without dying once. Me and a few friends literally spent a few days non-stop in party chat looking for these % eggs and then we got the idea that it was a no-death run for the final one and we knew it fell from the tree at the end because one of the achievement icons has an egg in the very same tree.
Needless to say, I was exausted and kept dying near the end very stupidly, and I had work in the morning. So I went to sleep, went to work and came back and I went from #2 on the leaderboards to #30-something (someone leaked the eggs online ;__ so I promptly did a no-death run and got my spot on the leaderboards forever engraved.
It just sucks; I would've been #2 or 3 in the world had sleep not gotten a hold of me.
Also, to people complaining about the 5 deaths or less trophy/achievement, the last secret secret hidden egg is by beating the game without dying once. Me and a few friends literally spent a few days non-stop in party chat looking for these % eggs and then we got the idea that it was a no-death run for the final one and we knew it fell from the tree at the end because one of the achievement icons has an egg in the very same tree.
Needless to say, I was exausted and kept dying near the end very stupidly, and I had work in the morning. So I went to sleep, went to work and came back and I went from #2 on the leaderboards to #30-something (someone leaked the eggs online ;__
so I promptly did a no-death run and got my spot on the leaderboards forever engraved.It just sucks; I would've been #2 or 3 in the world had sleep not gotten a hold of me.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
There are no leaderboards in the PS3 version, but I'm not sure about the secret-secret eggs. One of them was obtainedInfamous Chris said:
by stacking two boxes in the gravity switch area near the end
I'm gonna say - for a completionist like you - you have to play the secret level in PS3 (and probably tomorrow's PC) version of the game. You're going to love it.
Eh, Braid wasn't that difficult either. Only thing for which FAQ is really needed were those hidden stars. All the puzzles made good sense in their special logic way that the game establishes for every level. Definitely more difficult than Limbo though, although Limbo gets extra points for puzzles making perfect natural, this-worldly logical sense. I'm with you though, puzzles in Limbo were enjoyable, challenging and varied enough to be fun all the way through.Dr. Zoidberg said: