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List of PS5 Pro enhanced games
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_Idea_of_Evil_
Member
Ghostwire: Tokyo would be great PRO-enhanced.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Added UFC 5
Luipadre
Member
PSSR would be really good for that game but i think the boost mode will make it a locked 60fps atleast
MDSLKTR
Member
Doesn't it have many options including an unlocked framerate?
DeaDPo0L84
Member
Me and my wife are currently going through BG3 with couch coop. It doesn't run terribly but I'd be down for some sort of performance uplift, like a solid 60 with quality settings.
Tqaulity
Member
Gonna be some fun times ahead starting next month! Really looking forward to the Pro as it can potentially enhance the game experience for some of the heavier AAA games for sure. I have a large screen 4K OLED in a home theater so I would say I'm probably among the target audience for the PRO. That said, the PRO is NOT for everyone and not all games need a PRO enhancement (*coughs* Astrobot).
I must admit though, I am disappointed by what we've seen from Sony 1st party titles in their use of the PRO thus far. Most of the games like TLOU PT1/PT2, SpiderMan 2, Ratchet and Clank, and Demons' already run pretty well with great IQ. With the 120hz VRR mode, the fidelity settings already run at 40-50fps with native 4K in most cases so it would have been sufficient to leverage the raw "45%" GPU uplift to get that to 60fps or at least comfortably in the 48hz+ range for VRR.
But i there is a belief that PSSR can still add value, then why not apply it to the fidelity mode instead of the performance mode? Seeing games like TLOU pt2, Spiderman 2, and Ratchet and Clank apply their single PRO mode on top of the existing performance mode basically just means that they're taking the Perf mode and apply a "better" reconstruction technique on top of it. Sure the image is sharper but the fidelity mode does have higher settings in some cases such as a the crowds in R&C or the lower quality water in TLOU. Also, in SM2 and R&C the RT effects were noticeably lower in the base performance modes. A PRO should be the best of everything and not just sharper image with lower settings. Seeing how much better the fidelity mode looks in Alan Wake 2 or the new Silent Hill 2 remake, who would want to just have a sharper performance mode as the "PRO" setting? That is not the best of both worlds promise that Sony mentioned in the reveal. Rather it's just a sharper Perf mode.
The most exciting examples of utilizing the PRO thus far are titles like F1 24, Dead Rising Remake, Hogwart's Legacy, and Jedi Survivor based on the little bit we know thus far. Why? Because they are adding meaningful additions that were not possible on the base machine and thus transforming the experience. The RT reflections and AO in Dead Rising while still running at 4K/60 w/PSSR is great and makes a notable difference. Obviously we see the difference the RT effects can make in F1 24, putting the PRO much closer to the max PC experience while still maintaining 4K/60 w/PSSR. Hogwart Legacy's RT effects can have a profound impact in some scenes and those effects were completely out of reach on the base PS5 (and Series X). Getting those RT effects at 60fps is not realistic seeing as how heavy that game's RT mode is on PC ( need a 3090Ti to avg 60fps at 1080p!). But they'll still have a fidelity mode (no RT) with higher settings runner at higher res and frame rates on PRO. And adding the RT effects to the performance mode in Jedi Survivor with sharper image at 60fps is truly a best of both worlds situation.
I must admit though, I am disappointed by what we've seen from Sony 1st party titles in their use of the PRO thus far. Most of the games like TLOU PT1/PT2, SpiderMan 2, Ratchet and Clank, and Demons' already run pretty well with great IQ. With the 120hz VRR mode, the fidelity settings already run at 40-50fps with native 4K in most cases so it would have been sufficient to leverage the raw "45%" GPU uplift to get that to 60fps or at least comfortably in the 48hz+ range for VRR.
But i there is a belief that PSSR can still add value, then why not apply it to the fidelity mode instead of the performance mode? Seeing games like TLOU pt2, Spiderman 2, and Ratchet and Clank apply their single PRO mode on top of the existing performance mode basically just means that they're taking the Perf mode and apply a "better" reconstruction technique on top of it. Sure the image is sharper but the fidelity mode does have higher settings in some cases such as a the crowds in R&C or the lower quality water in TLOU. Also, in SM2 and R&C the RT effects were noticeably lower in the base performance modes. A PRO should be the best of everything and not just sharper image with lower settings. Seeing how much better the fidelity mode looks in Alan Wake 2 or the new Silent Hill 2 remake, who would want to just have a sharper performance mode as the "PRO" setting? That is not the best of both worlds promise that Sony mentioned in the reveal. Rather it's just a sharper Perf mode.
The most exciting examples of utilizing the PRO thus far are titles like F1 24, Dead Rising Remake, Hogwart's Legacy, and Jedi Survivor based on the little bit we know thus far. Why? Because they are adding meaningful additions that were not possible on the base machine and thus transforming the experience. The RT reflections and AO in Dead Rising while still running at 4K/60 w/PSSR is great and makes a notable difference. Obviously we see the difference the RT effects can make in F1 24, putting the PRO much closer to the max PC experience while still maintaining 4K/60 w/PSSR. Hogwart Legacy's RT effects can have a profound impact in some scenes and those effects were completely out of reach on the base PS5 (and Series X). Getting those RT effects at 60fps is not realistic seeing as how heavy that game's RT mode is on PC ( need a 3090Ti to avg 60fps at 1080p!). But they'll still have a fidelity mode (no RT) with higher settings runner at higher res and frame rates on PRO. And adding the RT effects to the performance mode in Jedi Survivor with sharper image at 60fps is truly a best of both worlds situation.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
If (as it would seem) the dev team’s allergic to any form of AA, the best you can hope for is native 2160p60 like Persona 5 Royal.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
Warhammer 40K: Space Marines 2? I think I saw a tweet from the developers saying they were working on a PSSR patch?
brenobnfm
Member
I'm honestly not bothered with the performance, the IQ though is another story, really distracting.
Not sure what resolution Metaphor is running on PS5, but if could get to Persona 5 Royal IQ i'd be satisfied.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I haven't seen that, if you come across it please tag me here and I will add itWarhammer 40K: Space Marines 2? I think I saw a tweet from the developers saying they were working on a PSSR patch?
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
It was posted on here. I'll have a hunt and try and find it.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Are you talking maybe about the IGN article where they said they hoped the pro improves the game automatically?
Its not listed officially in the store as enhanced, yet anyhow
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
Nope. It was a tweet from the a dev saying they're working on a PS5 PRO patch, or I'm dreaming.
R6Rider
Gold Member
That game should run at 4k120 on a base PS5. The issues there aren't because of the hardware.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
I went hunting and yes it's the IGN article sorry. I'm not touching that game unless it's buttery smooth at 60fps on the Pro.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
No reason to be sorry, thank you for looking into it
Until they put the pro enhanced section of the store back up I appreciate anyone who sees any game get updated to tag me
XXL
Member
I haven't looked myself yet, but someone the other day said Silent Hill 2 says Pro Enhanced on the Store. No clue if it's true or not.No reason to be sorry, thank you for looking into it
Until they put the pro enhanced section of the store back up I appreciate anyone who sees any game get updated to tag me
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Waiting on:
Silent Hill 2
Helldivers 2
Come on Bloober and Arrowhead, don't let us down!
Silent Hill 2
Helldivers 2
Come on Bloober and Arrowhead, don't let us down!
XXL
Member
Yeah, I just checked the PS Store on PS5. It was fake news. Lol.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's exactly like the 4Pro with what they expect of developers.
I'm positive they will compile a list closer to launch.
Tqaulity
Member
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
If Final Fantasy XVI gets updated, I'll force myself to finish it on the Pro. If not, well, maybe I'll replay it on PC in a couple of years
Crispy Gamer
Member
Tomorrow Sony's stock does a 5-1 split and it's a day before retail pre-orders open let's see if it's accompanied with any type of Pro PR to increase awareness.
Radical_3d
Member
Silent Hill 2, apparently.
Brigandier
Member
Really hope the following:
Astrobot
Spacemarine 2
Silent Hill 2
Wukong
BG3
Helldivers 2
Returnal
Make it onto the list
Astrobot
Spacemarine 2
Silent Hill 2
Wukong
BG3
Helldivers 2
Returnal
Make it onto the list
alucard0712_rus
Banned
Peasant
Mibu no ookami
Banned
The game desperately needs improved anti aliasing.
Mibu no ookami
Banned
The rumors suggest that they did.
https://insider-gaming.com/playstation-5-pro-2024-release/
Why all of these games aren't listed as having PS5 Pro enhancements is beyond me, but it is possible they have a certain amount of time to release PS5 Pro patches on these titles. I don't know.
Felessan
Member
They did, but it's only "support" and not "extra enchancement"
"Support PS5 Pro" and "PS5 Pro Enchanted" are a different things. PS5 Pro Enchanted are only games that do go extra length and something specifically for PS5 Pro (like PSSR, new graphic features etc), and support means that game can run natively on it (i.e. on 60 CU), it doesn't (at least it was not on PS4 Pro) require to put extra features to PS5 Pro version.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
The requirement for PS4 Pro was also for 'support'. It would be problematic if every developer was forced to Enhance their games for the Pro console.
But I am pretty sure most big games will release with PS5 Pro Enhancements.
Mibu no ookami
Banned
Don't think that adds up, while specific features might not be required for PS5 Enhancement, I think it would be more than "running natively" all PS5 games will inherently run in boost mode utilizing the full CUs.
If anything it would be games are required to use updated SDK that includes other improvements such as the improved memory as well.
That being said, with that SDK, I would be surprised to see games that don't utilize PSSR but do utilize FSR.
Felessan
Member
PS5 Pro Support - is required. But this only means that all games should be able to run in native mode (and tested that nothing breaks). Extra CU mode is not unlocked without patch and certification as it would be a pity if game became unplayable with forced native mode. No features specific for PS5 Pro (PSSR, separate mode for PS5 Pro etc) are required.
PS5 Pro Enchanced - is not required. But to get label games should add extra features specific for PS5 Pro and not just unlocking CU.
At least how it worked on PS4 Pro where it was similar requirement for support and similar label PS4 Pro Enchanced.
Games that don't have resources to branch for 2 versions (mostly smaller games) will use FSR, as vanilla PS5 do not support PSSR
Mibu no ookami
Banned
Show me one PS4 game that is broken on PS4 Pro or PS5 running simply in boost mode... it doesn't exist. It's not how games work.
Felessan
Member
Boost mode is not a native mode, it's overclocked normal mode
PS4 Pro has 3 modes:
1. Normal - clock and CU are the same as Vanilla
2. Boost - CU same as Vanilla and CPU/gpu clocks are boosted
3. Native - full CU usage and clocks are boosted
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MisterXDTV
Member
PS5 Pro support has to imply a specific Pro Mode for the game, otherwise it makes no sense
PS5 Pro of course is 100% backwards compatible with base PS5, so it's a moot point saying a PS5 game should run on it
My guess is that the "Enhanced for PS5" label refers to OLDER games released BEFORE September 16
You don't need that label now that support is mandatory
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King Dazzar
Member
I'm hoping with Dead Space, without a patch (I bet EA dont give it one). It irons out the unstable frame rate and occasional stutter and negate the need for VRR. Which would be great.
Felessan
Member
Pro still 45% has more performance than base PS5 without any special pro mode in game.
Sony would not require PS5 Pro *enchancements* (PSSR, separate mode etc) for all game, same that they never did it for PS4 Pro. But having enchancements is a requirement to get special "PS5 Pro Enchanced" label
Some games simply have no room for enchancements, like pixelart indies already running at 4k60 on base model. Some games are low budget and can't afford to branch 2 versions, when pro version will be economically detrimental for project, some low thousands sales on Pro will not even cover dev/testing cost.
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MisterXDTV
Member
If that's the case, then the September 15 dealine is useless as devs can simply IGNORE PS5 Pro existence and make PS5 games as usual. PS5 Pro is backwards compatible anyway
I don't think they can do that
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Felessan
Member
They can, in feature set, but they cannot, in compatibility mode. They will not get certification approval if game can't run in native mode on ps5pro
Again - basic Pro mode is utilizing all it's power (+60% CU) and this mode is required. It still will give performance boost in games with DRS and uncapped/unstable fps.
Old games are not explicitly required to support native mode, they will get only a very small boost from clocks in boost mode. Even with DRS they will perform about the same as basic PS5 without patch.
But no game required to actually support Pro with features not present on basic model. It an option for devs as it requires extra efforts from them.
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MisterXDTV
Member
So what would be difference between a game released in 2025 vs a game released in 2021?
I don't get it....
A 2021 game will run on PS5 Pro just like one from 2025
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
I'm going to be so disappointed if all we're getting from most games is performance mode with PSSR instead of Fidelity mode with it. That would be really pathetic for cross gen games like Last of Us 2. Even for current gen games that would defeat the purpose of the Pro. Ohhh, we get better iq in performance mode! But have to settle for lower graphical settings?! I don't think so Sony ...i think we need to ask ourselves did Sony screw up with the Pros hardware and not give it enough GPU grunt to get Fidelity mode for Spiderman and Last of Us 2? On top of that the CPU is very important to getting the most out of Ray Tracing capabilities. .is this why there doesn't seem to be anything left for RT after pssr is added?
Im not happy with what ive seen of the pro so far ...also: no Cyberpunk 2077 with good RT on console still as theres no Pro patch. Black Myth Wukong would've been such a perfect candidate for Pro patch. FF16 an obvious candidate.
I know I sound doom and gloom but it seems this gen is destined to disappoint. The Pro was supposed to fix that ...why build a Pro for performance mode improvements for $800 lol
Felessan
Member
Game released in 2021 will run almost the same on Pro as on basic PS5 sans small boost from overclocking if turned on
Game released in 2025 will run significantly better on DRS/fps front as it will utilize better GPU
There are 4 stages on Pro transition:
1. Full compatibility - performance of Pro is the same as performance of basic model. It a base scenario for 2021 game
2. Boost mode - it's a base model with overclocked CPU/GPU. It'll give some performance boost, but not that much. This mode was manual on PS4 Pro with disclaimer that there might be issues (and there were, seldomly, that you had to turn it off)
3. Native Pro mode - it's unlocking extra CU on Pro, same as switching on better GPU, games will fully utilize extra power (PS dont switch to this mode automatically all older game as it could bring a lot of issues), but no extra features as they require explicit implementing
4. Enhanced Pro mode - devs implements features not present on basic model into game, like CBR on Ps4Pro and PSSR on PS5Pro
Stage 3 is required for all 2025 games, stage 4 is optional
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Doctor Hades
Member
I am surprised to not see Silent Hill 2 on that list. I thought that all new PS5 releases in the run up to the launch had to have support for the Pro according to Sony?
I am expecting the game to get better RT support to match the PC version but I guess until that patch arrives the Pro's Boost mode will at least offer a stable and locked 30 fps in the Quality mode. I am not expecting it to lock to 60 fps for the Performance mode though without a patch and even with a patch I don't think it'll happen but if the game can hold 48-60 fps then at least VRR should make the experience smoother.
I am expecting the game to get better RT support to match the PC version but I guess until that patch arrives the Pro's Boost mode will at least offer a stable and locked 30 fps in the Quality mode. I am not expecting it to lock to 60 fps for the Performance mode though without a patch and even with a patch I don't think it'll happen but if the game can hold 48-60 fps then at least VRR should make the experience smoother.