Lizzo's "Juice" pulled from Rock Band due to making players sing the N-word

nkarafo said:
But black people have a pass for using this word. So is there an authentic version specifically for them? Or do you only cater to white people, you racists you?
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Good they removed it, tired of Sambo negros giving Caucasians the green light to say the word.

And your comparison is ignorant at best, like you letting your friends call you a bitch and it being okay but copping an attitude if a stranger called you one.

It boils down to an individual not doing it because it's wrong not because another group of people doing it.

It's like white people feel left out or something by black folks saying it. I've seen a few of this forum throwing it around as well with to. I swear certain people complain about the wrong thing. Go to the projects in Chicago or something and ask if it's okay to slang the word but some feel like they have a right when behind the internet.
 
I use every word I like to use. There no such things as words I can or can't use. Wether I would use them or whenever I would is a different question. I wouldnt censor myself in songs altough I wouldnt listen to music phrasing it anyway. But with oldschool hiphop its hard but I tend to keep my mouth shut in general when I listen to music. Along with friends (yup, white) I wouldnt care but in public I would chill
 
Neofire said:
Good they removed it, tired of Sambo negros giving Caucasians the green light to say the word.

And your comparison is ignorant at best, like you letting your friends call you a bitch and it being okay but copping an attitude if a stranger called you one.

It boils down to an individual not doing it because it's wrong not because another group of people doing it.

It's like white people feel left out or something by black folks saying it. I've seen a few of this forum throwing it around as well with to. I swear certain people complain about the wrong thing. Go to the projects in Chicago or something and ask if it's okay to slang the word but some feel like they have a right when behind the internet.
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I think you took my post way too seriously.
 
Neofire said:
Good they removed it, tired of Sambo negros giving Caucasians the green light to say the word.

And your comparison is ignorant at best, like you letting your friends call you a bitch and it being okay but copping an attitude if a stranger called you one.

It boils down to an individual not doing it because it's wrong not because another group of people doing it.

It's like white people feel left out or something by black folks saying it. I've seen a few of this forum throwing it around as well with to. I swear certain people complain about the wrong thing. Go to the projects in Chicago or something and ask if it's okay to slang the word but some feel like they have a right when behind the internet.
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To me the problem is that its basically a stupid and pointless exercise because all its achieving is to keep a shitty word powerful.

It also is a great example of how when you remove context and intent, all that remains is taboo. A regressive situation that helps noone.
 
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mr.dilya said:
You aren't gonna stop white people from saying it or wanting to say it by asking them not to. That's just common sense.

Yeah it is prevalent in hip-hop, and that argument has merit, but hip-hop was never really meant for white people to begin with.
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your the biggest piece of shit racist i have seen today. Music is for everybody. Fuck off.
 
More power to EA if they want to have sanitized versions of songs. BUt I personally dont understand how anyone could be offended by a non black person singing a song in reverence that happens to have the word 'nigga'. There was no hate meant and a lot of love presented. I bump Eazy E all day and sing along without regard. If it offends someone, thats on them, I am just having a good time listening to my favorite tunes.
 
The solution here was to not choose this song -- doing a censored version is dumb. In turn, if the devs were okay with an uncensored version and players aren't, players shouldn't buy it.
 
LOL everything i hear about this fatass is hilarious. she's a diversity hire for the music industry. let's all applaud how a fatass can sexually debase themselves for money. she's a joke. one time she threw a public tantrum accusing her food delivery of stealing food from her. every thing about her is funny.

for instance her big song is called "Truth Hurts" and she is being sued because she ripped off the main hook from an anonymous Twitter poster. her big song is called "Truth Hurts" and it's based on something she stole from someone else. lol you can't make this shit up.
 
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nkarafo said:
Never said all black people like using the word.
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So then what's your point? You want to be able to say it because lots of black people say it? Newsflash, you can say it nobody is taking away your right to. But if you get your ass beat that's on you.
 
I remember at some festival Kendrick Lamar brought some white girl up on stage to sing one of his songs. You could tell she was nervous as all hell, but she was really into it. Sang every word, it was impressive. I guess the "problem" was that she sang E V E R Y word. So, as soon as she said "nigga", he stopped her infront of easily 10,000-30,000 people, if not more. To tell her that she's not allowed to say that word, and that they were going to start over and see if she could "sing it right." I legit felt bad for the girl. Made me wonder if she was even still a fan of his after that as I'm sure it was embarrassing and degrading, lmao.

Because of the stigma behind the word, I wish we could just, y'know, just nuke it all together. 🤷‍♂️

Also, I too am shocked Rock Band is still dropping DLC. That's actually pretty cool, lmao.
 
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mr.dilya said:
So then what's your point? You want to be able to say it because lots of black people say it? Newsflash, you can say it nobody is taking away your right to. But if you get your ass beat that's on you.
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Huh.

Where exactly did i say i want to say it?
 
I have nothing to add to this conversation other than Juice is a fun song. I've been listening to it on loop the last few days. With that said... it's not exactly a rock song.
 
The trend of allowing a word to be acceptible enough to be broadcast, but then unacceptable for 90% of the country to say in public is pretty dumb.

Honestly, people are complaining about the wrong thing. Them pulling the song makes perfect sense

The real question is how the fuck it got through planning, testing, and QA before someone looked at "NIG-NIGGA, NAW" a million times on the sing along and raised an eyebrow

quickwhips said:
your the biggest piece of shit racist i have seen today. Music is for everybody. Fuck off.
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imagine being this tone deaf lol

He's not wrong. Hip-hop culture absolutely was not made for white people.....and this would be obvious to anyone who actually listened to early hip-hop

it was sort of a counter-culture that arose out of systemic racism and dejection. Calling hip-hop "racist" is the kind of shallow irony that could only exist in 2020
 
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LordKasual said:
The trend of allowing a word to be acceptible enough to be broadcast, but then unacceptable for 90% of the country to say in public is pretty dumb.

Honestly, people are complaining about the wrong thing. Them pulling the song makes perfect sense

The real question is how the fuck it got through planning, testing, and QA before someone looked at "NIG-NIGGA, NAW" a million times on the sing along and raised an eyebrow



imagine being this tone deaf lol

He's not wrong. Hip-hop culture absolutely was not made for white people.....and this would be obvious to anyone who actually listened to early hip-hop

it was sort of a counter-culture that arose out of systemic racism and dejection. Calling hip-hop "racist" is the kind of shallow irony that could only exist in 2020
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Imagine being this racist.
 
lol even the safer nigga is just too hot to allow people to sing in their own homes these days. Another battle in the cultural war won. Well fought Harmonix.
 
The thirst some white people have to being able to say/scream that word is hilarious. To me it has always been a word people use to remind them how stupid and racist some people were. It's ok to use it as being from those who suffered from it but it's understandable that not everyone can use it especially from those who would use it to paint people in a negative way. To me it's like when gay men call themselves the F word. Between them it's ok, doesn't mean people can call them that word or anyone can use it as they please. These words were often used before a group of people beat and or killed someone. And that isn't that long ago... I'm not sure I understand how hard it is to make your homework.
 
LeVictorien said:
The thirst some white people have to being able to say/scream that word is hilarious. To me it has always been a word people use to remind them how stupid and racist some people were. It's ok to use it as being from those who suffered from it but it's understandable that not everyone can use it especially from those who would use it to paint people in a negative way. To me it's like when gay men call themselves the F word. Between them it's ok, doesn't mean people can call them that word or anyone can use it as they please. These words were often used before a group of people beat and or killed someone. And that isn't that long ago... I'm not sure I understand how hard it is to make your homework.
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Really? I never acknowledged the white people "thirst" I guess. From the area I grew up in Houston, everyone said it and still does. Guess it's just the area I grew up in. Growing up I always associated it with an alternate form of "dude" really. I mean, especially growing up in an area where white folks were the minority. Personally I feel it's all about intent, but not everyone feels that way, and that's fine! I don't use it, and I don't care to. Primarily because I just think it's stupid to give a word so much "power", I'd rather just ignore its existence.
 
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Two things here don't make much sense to me...
1: Why is a pop song in Rock Band? I haven't actually played it, is this normal?
2: Why did they put the uncensored version of the song in the game in the first place? This seems like a huge oversight to me.
 
obin_gam said:
Honestly yeah. I have no history, need or reason to use either "nigga" or "nigger" as a word to speak.
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To me, context is important, for example, anyone that took offence at you for using it in that sentence would be ignoring context.

If I'm rapping along to a hip-hop tune at home, which I do all the time, and nobody is gonna hear me, then I don't see why I should self-censor. I'm not getting some weird pleasure from being able to say the word. There's just no reason for me to not say it.

I've rapped along with lots of lyrics I don't co-sign, including homophobic, misogynistic, anti-Semitic and anti-white lyrics, but that's cos I'm rapping along to a rap song in the privacy of my own home.

I have no problem with them removing this song from the game and I understand why they did it.

LordKasual said:
He's not wrong. Hip-hop culture absolutely was not made for white people.....and this would be obvious to anyone who actually listened to early hip-hop

it was sort of a counter-culture that arose out of systemic racism and dejection. Calling hip-hop "racist" is the kind of shallow irony that could only exist in 2020
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I'm a huge hip-hop head and first started getting into it in 1982. I would disagree with the idea that "hip-hop was never really meant for white people", as that other guy said. Obviously I don't need to explain hip-hop's origins to you, but just because a genre of music was primarily created by people of a certain race, doesn't mean that it was only "meant" for people of certain races, and there are plenty of examples of white people who had a huge influence on hip-hop and electro in the early days including Rick Rubin, Paul C, Arthur Baker, and John Robie, to name a few.

I would absolutely agree that it's important to acknowledge the pioneers of hip-hop and give credit where it's due, but I don't find myself in agreement with someone like Lord Jamar of Brand Nubian who thinks that white people are "guests in the house of hip-hop".

I think how the small number of white people in the scene were treated in the early days is proof that hip-hop is not "racist". Some were treated with suspicion, sure, which I can understand, but once folks knew that they were in it cos they loved it and they had something dope to bring to the table, they were quickly accepted. Had the races been reversed, I'm not so sure it would have panned out the same in America in the mid 70s through early 80s. Of course there are lyrics that can be interpreted as racist, but anyone that says hip-hop itself is somehow racist is full of shit IMO.
 
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Smug_Horned_AI said:
Jay-Z sure was when he said
"We disarmed the word. We took the fire pin out of the grenade."
or
"I believe that a speaker's intention is what gives a word its power. And if we eliminate the N word, other words would just take its place."
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I'm sure your not Black so you cant speak on the black experience.
 
We're coming to the point where even black people will not be able to use the n-word.

We live in interesting times.
 
bunch of tough guys here.
remove the keyboard, and we have a bunch of poptarts. Some of you guys say the stupidest things, hopefully you reside in Kentucky.
 
its hard to come to any agreement on something so inherently absurd

just keep in mind that words are symbols, which represent different things from culture to culture

the history and ideas behind symbols get lost in these sissy fights
prime example - if you saw a dark skinned person of indian descent wearing a left-facing swastika you'd probably get triggered before putting time into research
 
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