[Polygon] 8BitDo no longer shipping to US from China due to Trump tariffs
Solarstrike
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mckmas8808
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Man that's nuts LOL! Thanks for this insight. It helps to put things into its proper perspective.
MiguelItUp
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I hate politics, but there's a reason this is all happening, and it's unfortunately related to political decisions. The increase in tariffs is affecting a lot, and it's wild that there were/are people attempting to deflect that. Calling people dramatic, etc. It'd be even sillier IMO to just wear a blindfold and act like nothing is going on.
I think that folks are doing a good job not allowing this thread to fly too close to the sun. Lord knows that's not easy.
It really sucks that 8bitdo has made that decision, but it makes sense. Hell, my girlfriend's job has almost all of their manufacturing done in China. They're a mom and pop company that have been successful for decades. But now they're scrambling to figure things out because of the massive increase on tariffs. It's a shame.
I think that folks are doing a good job not allowing this thread to fly too close to the sun. Lord knows that's not easy.
It really sucks that 8bitdo has made that decision, but it makes sense. Hell, my girlfriend's job has almost all of their manufacturing done in China. They're a mom and pop company that have been successful for decades. But now they're scrambling to figure things out because of the massive increase on tariffs. It's a shame.
ReasonBeing
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Not only do they have a shit ton of supply, but their society and government is designed to supplement the lower wages. Their $15,000 salary goes much further than it would in the US.
StueyDuck
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No one said we are trusting billionaires, but you realise the alternative is... checks notes... trusting the other billionaires who were already fucking up the world
It is a great idea, it's one of the biggest companies in the world and it's pulling out of China which can potentially help cripple their economy and their global stranglehold on the majority of the world.
You do realise this is more than about buying little plastic things online? But i suppose if you can buy the plastic toy for cheap but your kids can't afford shit then all is great right?
Oh, you are 1000% correct in this being a self-made situation, and the US absolutely benefited (the 1% of the US) compared to the rest of the world.
That is why trying to enact any sort of change is going to be essentially impossible because all the evil roots and veins of this shit burrows deep, the blowback is going to be astronomical, as you are currently seeing.
I can't speak for anyone else, but i don't believe in "a new world order", i just think there's a fuckton of corruption that the 1% has profited from for years and it's so engrained now that it's essentially undefeatable, so i can see a positive in trump trying to do something rather than pretending if the world kept doing nothing it'll all be fine, because the bridge I'm gonna sell you is the one that it absolutely wasn't.
There is no future where 2-3 generations from now, people are growing up and not being able to afford what we would consider a regular life. I mean, even for me, technically a millennial,I have had things much worse and much more expensive than my parents or their parents ever had; these are just facts.
So everyone can kick and scream all they want, but I see a silver lining, even if it's only just a glimmer of a chance.
Otherwise, we can all go back, i guess, and we can buckle up for $100 dollar games and $700 consoles (bringing it back to gaming) because that is where we are heading if something isn't done in the near future.
Fabieter
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Trump's a billionaire with billionaire friends, so of course he's part of the 1% that benefits from all of this. Did you know he tweeted 'buy stocks now' just three hours before announcing that 90-day deferral deal? Stocks skyrocketed right after.
Believe me or not, but Trump and his buddies are going to make a fortune from all this and they don't care one bit about the average person, in America or anywhere else.
Anyway, ideological debates rarely go anywhere, so I'll leave it at that. If you think any of this is going to change things for the better... well, good luck with that."**
Unknown?
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Another thing is when Andrew Jackson had his war against the banks, they tanked the economy on purpose to blame Jackson. Same as right now, you threaten the big financiers, they will cause pain so they may continue to profit.
But this could all be theater to keep our eyes on the wrong place.
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StereoVsn
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TLDR: Blame the French. They wanted to stick it to Nixon and demanded to exchange their $$$ for gold. At that juncture US had way more $$$ in circulation vs in reserve after expansion years post Bretton Woods.
So Nixon basically had to go off Gold Standard to prevent "gold run" on US reserves. Now, that was supposed to be temporarily but he had to resign and that was that.
So once again, The French did it!
its not trump its winnie the pooh.TRUUUUUUUMP!
DeepEnigma
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I mean yeah, the global powers couldn't kill two presidents so close to each other, so set one up and force them to resign that doesn't play globalist cabal ball.TLDR: Blame the French. They wanted to stick it to Nixon and demanded to exchange their $$$ for gold. At that juncture US had way more $$$ in circulation vs in reserve after expansion years post Bretton Woods.
So Nixon basically had to go off Gold Standard to prevent "gold run" on US reserves. Now, that was supposed to be temporarily but he had to resign and that was that.
So once again, The French did it!
Now Watergate looks like a total joke and child's play compared to with these politicians do now.
StereoVsn
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…. Let's not get into super Conspiracy Theories…I mean yeah, the global powers couldn't kill two presidents so close to each other, so set one up and force them to resign that doesn't play globalist cabal ball.
Now Watergate looks like a total joke and child's play compared to with these politicians do now.
Nobody setup Nixon, he did it all himself. Our current state of politics is telling if we think Nixon should have stayed in power.
Toons
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Nixon couldnt handle all that Deep Throat i guess
DeepEnigma
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You can still be guilty and set up trusting a mole/rat too much
Schmendrick
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And what exactly is the connection between this tariff nonsense and your general issue with how our financial system works?No one said we are trusting billionaires, but you realise the alternative is... checks notes... trusting the other billionaires who were already fucking up the world
It is a great idea, it's one of the biggest companies in the world and it's pulling out of China which can potentially help cripple their economy and their global stranglehold on the majority of the world.
You do realise this is more than about buying little plastic things online? But i suppose if you can buy the plastic toy for cheap but your kids can't afford shit then all is great right?
Also....china has a global stranglehold on the majority of the world?...by offering cheap labour? Right, must be them and their workforce for hire and not that other country with the 750 military bases in foreign countries.....
And "crippling" their economy by making it a bit less attractive for ~10% of their potential fabrication customers...good luck with that. India and Co have a much better chance to do that by simply being cheaper . And I probably don't even have to ask why you would even want to cripple anyone in the first place......
And the same question: that basic systemic issue has what exactly to do with the tariffs?
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StueyDuck
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I never said it's going to change things for the better, but at least it's something.
why is infinite Inflation and poverty for more and more people the best option. Because it's the known one?
all billionaires will do that, so whether it's trump or soros or bezos or musk etc.
again its so easy to say the new thing is terrible meanwhile the old thing was just as equally terrible, so what is even the point then.
Do we just just resign to the fact that there is no hope or no potential solution?
Come On Tars
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tariffs will sure be hard if you are a pussy addicted to buying garbage. One day we might actually make stuff here if people could chill for 5 seconds.
Schmendrick
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Because these tariffs only affect cheap toys.... Right.
Thank god it's not like a giant part of basic components and resources for pretty much everything is also affected.... /s
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StueyDuck
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It doesn't have anything to do with tariffs; that's literally the point. You seem to be confused.And what exactly is the connection between this tariff nonsense and your general issue with how our financial system works?
Also....china has a global stranglehold on the majority of the world?...by offering cheap labour? Right, must be them and their workforce for hire and not that other country with the 750 military bases in foreign countries.....
And "crippling" their economy by making it a bit less attractive for ~10% of their potential fabrication customers...good luck with that. India and Co have a much better chance to do that by simply being cheaper . And I probably don't even have to ask why you would even want to cripple anyone in the first place......
And the same question: that basic systemic issue has what exactly to do with the tariffs?
Schmendrick
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This thread is about the tariffs and you say now that you are not talking about the tariffs, so the confused one is definitely you.
StueyDuck
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you are talking to me and my posts, my posts aren't about tariffs...
can you read?
Schmendrick
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Your posts are in a tariff thread. I'm sorry I did not immediately realize that you are actually going full tinfoil hat general whining offtopic.....
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StueyDuck
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Ahhh the classic you were wrong and instead of just saying sorry or you misread, call the other person a phobe or crazy or some form of derogatory thing.
well I'm glad your input was as useless as it sounded.
it never actually made any sense but i was trying to be polite by pretending it did. It was just mostly word salad
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Schmendrick
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I gave you the benefit of the doubt and didn`t immediately label you as a tinfoil hat apocalypto nut, that was indeed on me, my bad. Should`ve not assumed that absolute nonsense was based on anything but personal "issues".
I´ll leave you to your global apocalypse and enemy at the gates fantasies....ignored.
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Lionel Richie
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Fuck Trump. Who cares if China is probably using slave child labor to make me cheap controllers.
I'm extremely sure Trump did this to save those poor slave children. They could do much better working for Tesla to make you overpriced cars!
Schmendrick
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Do the other 89 countries also have such reports? What about the penguins on Heard Island, do they have some chick-labour crime syndicates? Must be the case, because these tariffs couldn't be based on absolute stupidity and Ego alone, right?Fuck Trump. Who cares if China is probably using slave child labor to make me cheap controllers.
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StereoVsn
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That's ok, Florida and a few other GOP states are trying to catch up quickly as far as child labor goes. We can have children make controllers right here in US of A!Fuck Trump. Who cares if China is probably using slave child labor to make me cheap controllers.
Florida debates lifting some child labor laws to fill jobs vacated by undocumented immigrants | CNN Business
Florida has been working for years to crack down on employers that hire undocumented immigrants. But that presented a problem for businesses in the state that are desperate for workers to fill low-wage and often undesirable jobs.
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Heimdall_Xtreme
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How strange
Not for nothing, but here in Mexico they sell arcade stick very cheaply, they even give us discounts.
Only 70 dollars
More cheap than a game of Nintendo Switch 2
Not for nothing, but here in Mexico they sell arcade stick very cheaply, they even give us discounts.
Only 70 dollars
More cheap than a game of Nintendo Switch 2
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Codeblew
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At least they would get paid in Florida and be able to go home when off work.
StereoVsn
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That's what you want to defend? Sigh…
Schmendrick
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Sometimes I really can't tell if people are being serious or if I'm missing a big "/s"
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Codeblew
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You never had a legal job as a teenager? I worked since I was 15. Hell, I even picked strawberries (also legal) in the Summers when I was 12-13.
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yogaflame
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Just my opinion. In the long run the tariff strategy will be mutually beneficial to USA and other countries. I'm aware of what is happening and just trust the process which is still in its infancy. It is also fair for USA since other country had already put heavy tariff to USA products in the past. And it will also stop China government for skirting the laws in world trade, dumping products, intellectual property rights violation, spying, and stop labor malpractice and human rights violations. I dont mind if in the early stages that we might have some slight price increase in gaming related products ,because I have a job and love it and I'm working hard and I have enough funds and proper budgeting for me, my family and extras for gaming. Price will stabilize soon and we shall have better and fair trade around the world and jobs will increase in USA after all of this.
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StereoVsn
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I have been working non/stip since 13 and full time while going to College.
That's still different from what Florida wants to do alongside many other States trying to pull back Child Labor laws.
Toons
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Look around you bud. We are. And there's not a gd change of that changing this century.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Someone save us from this death spiral.
You're looking at the graph wrong, let me help
Lionel Richie
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
StueyDuck
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Dare i ask what the conspiracy is here?I gave you the benefit of the doubt and didn`t immediately label you as a tinfoil hat apocalypto nut, that was indeed on me, my bad. Should`ve not assumed that absolute nonsense was based on anything but personal "issues".
I´ll leave you to your global apocalypse and enemy at the gates fantasies....ignored.
can you actually respond to anyone like a normal human being?
Unknown?
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GDP is a joke. It includes inflation and government spending. Inflation goes up and therefore so does GDP, even if more things aren't being produced! I think these days nearly half of GDP is government spending while the real economy withers. If it just included GDP of the private sector, it would look very different.
Someone save us from this death spiral.
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Team Andromeda
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USA!!!!
If only more would follow and we wouldn't have to deal so much with the vile CCP
If only more would follow and we wouldn't have to deal so much with the vile CCP
Unknown?
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That doesn't show anything related to purchasing power. In 1965 you made way less but could purchase much more.The true downward spiral
Heimdall_Xtreme
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. Double post
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Heimdall_Xtreme
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Dude... A FOBAPROA is coming.
Dirk Benedict
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Fuck. Time to buy one more.
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