I can't help but wonder if state TV over there basically implies that the entire Olympics consists of four events.
Gabby's rather good at banter, isn't she?
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I can't help but wonder if state TV over there basically implies that the entire Olympics consists of four events.
Gabby's rather good at banter, isn't she?
ElectricBlue187
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Canada is a winter olympics country so not a good comparison
Vivalaraza
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Gotta hand it to the organisers, they said they wanted to "inspire a nation" at these games and it hasn't just been a motto. Everything has been geared towards that and tonight the athletes did their bit.
I so so so badly hope we kick on from this.
Napoleonthechimp
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I'll take up archery just off the back of this Olympics and I'm 26... It's one of the few accessible sports that I honestly could see myself doing and sticking at.
Amir0x is disagreeing with that. And listening to the women rowers today suggests he's right. One of them only started rowing 4 years ago when the team did a talent search just looking for tall people with some sporting experience. She's no freak of nature, just a good athlete with a great team and support system to train them up.
Oh cool, I didn't know that.
And whoever thinks having a population of 50 million should be able to compete with a population of 1.3 billion is crazy. I'm not even saying that just because I'm British, America beating China while having less than half the population is impressive.
Technically, the GBR team is actually more than just the 'UK' (the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland). In an Olympic context, it also includes the crown dependencies (Jersey, Guernsey, Isle of Man) and various other overseas territories but it does not include those which have their own Olympic councils (eg. Bermuda and the British Virgin Islands).
What a great day for Team GB though! So proud. *waves flag*
Kickstarter: Pay for Korean coach for GB Archery.
Same, we simply have to. So much talent and promise for us at these games, if we don't invest in sport to make sure it continues and grows from here then it'll be a huge missed opportunity.
Exactly the same as me.
I can't get enough of it!
I just really hope Murray can do us proud tomorrow.
GhostWriter24
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Galen Rupp is running the men's 5k as well. GO RUPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!
perfectchaos007
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I used the exact same argument last night except I used 25 million people instead of 30 mil. I guess it's arbitrary, but yeah, IOC only allows 2 or 3 competitors for each event so every country over a certain amount of people ( 25-30 million I guess ) is on a near equal playing field
GhostWriter24
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By that schedule Murray has to stay on court after his singles match and immediately play mixed doubles. Wonder if they'll change things?
killer_clank
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I'm trying not to even think about Murray tomorrow, but him getting gold would pretty much be the greatest thing ever.
ElectricBlue187
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That's more of an exception.
That is an excuse we like to use but it is bullshit. There aren't hundreds of thousands of people doing luge here.
Sort of, but that doesn't change the fact that if you have a bigger population, you technically have more people who can excel at a certain event that could then be chosen as part of those 2 or 3 per event, so you have more chance of finding a star. Of course other factors affect that too, like training, investment etc.
That badly misrepresents the state of sports in each country. Just because a country has hundreds of millions/over a billion people doesn't mean everybody in that country has the same access to training facilities or equipment or even personal knowledge of any certain sport. Not to mention historical factors and expertise passed down through time.
ElectricBlue187
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that's not what "winter olympics country" means
And more populous rich countries have more money to through at it.
And they're training partners too, I think. Great moment for them.
milanbaros
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How are people not understanding? 1 billion people is a bigger pool of talent from which to select your competitors. If a country of 1,000 people could send as many people as China would you expect them to end up with equal medals?
Why can people not see how a larger population is a clear advantage. So is being rich. So is being a country where Olympic sports are popular etc. Population is not discounted by the fact that you send the same number of people though.
It's at center court and follows the women's double gold medal match, so they can only give you an estimated time. I doubt it'll take too long for the Williams to win though.
What are you talking about then? You say you can't compare because Canada is a winter sports country so that means we obviously prefer the winter sports but that is bullshit. Everyone runs.
They both train with Alberto Salazar in oregon. I've read in interviews that he apparently works them incredibly hard, so hard that they do 120+ miles per week and sometimes can't even walk, and have to crawl their way home. The training is harder than the competition itself.
What does a million miles look like. Big numbers are big.
No, doing it *twice* would be the greatest thing ever.
It has crossed my mind that I'll be missing quite a lot of key events tomorrow due to travelling to London at that time. I wonder what I can do about that.
This gets confusing quickly; they should just call it "The Crown Team"
ElectricBlue187
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everyone runs competitively at a national level? That's what I'm talking about. They put more emphasis on winning gold medals in the winter olympics and not nearly as much for summer so you can't compare them to the US who does the exact opposite.
Soyongdori
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From far end of Russian Siberian to Spain, most likely.
My mind can't accept that.
If I open a sports club in an area with 5 million people and another in an area with 500 people, I'm going to get the same amount of people attending both?
They put more emphasis because it was in Vancouver. If Vancouver had the summer games the money would be put there.
It's an advantage but it premeditates that you actively scout for talent like China does. I mean look at the larger western countries, most of their youth is playing video games instead of sports. Moreover most children will just join the local sports club and will do the sport that is offered there. It's unlikely that a guy who doesnt life near a river will become a world class rower if you dont specifically scout/search for him.
perfectchaos007
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Do you know how an asymptote works? around 25 million people, that line is so close to 0 it really doesn't make much of a difference.
Western countries do a lot better at getting their youth in sport than China does. If you are not tall and good there is no league for you to play Basketball. You are 12 years old and can't make your school team than there is no option for you. The notion of sports outside of school is non existent in China. The kids who are not the elite are not in good shape as they dont have any options. The West there is so much to do.
That's because of tradition, training knowledge etc. Italy dominates Fencing, but that's not because they are genetically better, but because they have a long tradition and great coaches. Asian countries nowadays have become much better at Fencing (look at Korea and China taking gold medals) after they signed up Italian and French coaches.
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