RetroGamingUK
Member
Haven’t you heard?
Xbox Prime coming 2026
Runs Steam
Zero exclusives
Only $1099
It’s going to sell gang busters!
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LTD (Aligned) PS5 75.0 M Profit $12B; PS4 76.7 m, Profit $4B | 9.5M PS5 units sold in Q3 FY24
Haven’t you heard?
Xbox Prime coming 2026
Runs Steam
Zero exclusives
Only $1099
It’s going to sell gang busters!
Schmendrick
Member
We´re watching Playstation eat the piece of the pie Microsoft is no longer trying to hold on to.
On one side it`s nice to see something outside of the usual doom and gloom from the industry on the other hand we`re pretty much watching a new quasi monopoly hatching here which usually sucks for us customers in the long run.
On one side it`s nice to see something outside of the usual doom and gloom from the industry on the other hand we`re pretty much watching a new quasi monopoly hatching here which usually sucks for us customers in the long run.
Klayzer
Member
Dude is fucking embarrassing.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
I see Dench is still at it. Truly showing who/what he’s about and anyone wanting a serious discussion regarding anything PlayStation related needn’t waste their time.
As for the results, predicted, so all I have to do is brush off the stench of Dench from my shoulders.
As for the results, predicted, so all I have to do is brush off the stench of Dench from my shoulders.
Wastelander92
Member
Damn Sony is dead as fuck.
Endless growth is a lie and unnecessary.
Astray
Member
I refuse to believe that a man with 25 PS5s can hate Sony. Impossible.
Klayzer
Member
I see Dench is still at it. Truly showing who/what he’s about and anyone wanting a serious discussion regarding anything PlayStation related needn’t waste their time.
As for the results, predicted, so all I have to do is brush off the stench of Dench from my shoulders.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
For a little perspective, that “missed” target from last year’s FY ends up being a blip on the radar……along with Concord.
Going forward, the last thing anyone should do is doubt the selling power of PlayStation as a brand. It’s earned those accolades.
GTA VI is going to be about as massive as it gets for PS5 console sales!
Going forward, the last thing anyone should do is doubt the selling power of PlayStation as a brand. It’s earned those accolades.
GTA VI is going to be about as massive as it gets for PS5 console sales!
Topher
Identifies as young
The "snarky celebratory tone" is about great PS5 sales numbers while we've had this gaslighting narrative that console sales are "plummeting" when in reality that is only true for Xbox.
Woopah
Member
They now have more monthly active users than ever before, and 42% of people who bought a PS5 were new users. So they are absolutely reaching bigger audiences.
GHG
Member
I don't think I've ever opened GAF to witness this much crying.
Some people on this forum have really fooled themselves in to believing some absolute nonsense in the past few months. How impressionable so you you need to be to believe IGN's paid shills and a few manipulated polls (along with the accompanying not so "organic" posts) on this forum are reflective of the situation taking place in the real world?
All you have to ask yourself is this - why are the same people who are hellbent on lambasting PS5 the same people begging for Sony to do "day and date" on PC? If it were as bad as these people claim then why would they even want the games that they claim don't exist to be "day and date"?
At some point people will learn to decipher what is in front of your faces, this kind of nonsense has been going on for well over a decade now. You think they'd get the memo that it's not working and never has, but alas, those of us who wish to have conversations about the gaming industry in online spaces must continue to wade through this crap as long as a certain company are involved in the industry. I don't envy the Linux bro's, they've been through it for much longer.
Some people on this forum have really fooled themselves in to believing some absolute nonsense in the past few months. How impressionable so you you need to be to believe IGN's paid shills and a few manipulated polls (along with the accompanying not so "organic" posts) on this forum are reflective of the situation taking place in the real world?
All you have to ask yourself is this - why are the same people who are hellbent on lambasting PS5 the same people begging for Sony to do "day and date" on PC? If it were as bad as these people claim then why would they even want the games that they claim don't exist to be "day and date"?
At some point people will learn to decipher what is in front of your faces, this kind of nonsense has been going on for well over a decade now. You think they'd get the memo that it's not working and never has, but alas, those of us who wish to have conversations about the gaming industry in online spaces must continue to wade through this crap as long as a certain company are involved in the industry. I don't envy the Linux bro's, they've been through it for much longer.
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Fabieter
Member
What's the point of psn inclusion?
Killjoy-NL
Member
And he will spin as much, if not more, in the MS thread, just to the opposite side, and still pretend to be "neutral" lolI see Dench is still at it. Truly showing who/what he’s about and anyone wanting a serious discussion regarding anything PlayStation related needn’t waste their time.
As for the results, predicted, so all I have to do is brush off the stench of Dench from my shoulders.
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kazuyamishima
Member
Now, the question is, how much do you reckon sony will price the PS5 Digital/Disc/Pro for Holidays 2025??
Klayzer
Member
Seemingly, every gaming website is being flooded with FUD cockroaches. Hard facts are the only pesticides left to control their numbers.
As much as I still hate Sony for portimg exclusives to Pc and very few new exclusives. But its till impressive. PS brand is really is a pop culture. Fans are very loyal and patient and surprising there are many new ps5 owners. 4 more years for ps5 and ps5 pro to go. Ps5 pro will evolve and learn more, and ps5 base might soon have price cut which will really put them ahead for good onwards to ps6.
Really great quarter from Sony, and there’s still two big second wind spikes to come - GTA 6 and an expected price cut later in the life of the console.
They’ve certainly made all the right moves this gen. I don’t even agree with the doom and gloom about software. There’s a lot of stuff to play, and more and more games coming out.
Key expansion market might also be China. They’re focusing a lot of effort there in developer outreach. Massive population + booming economy.
They’ve certainly made all the right moves this gen. I don’t even agree with the doom and gloom about software. There’s a lot of stuff to play, and more and more games coming out.
Key expansion market might also be China. They’re focusing a lot of effort there in developer outreach. Massive population + booming economy.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Hardware?
It will stick around. Doesn’t looks like a priority to them to sell gangbusters.
Not sure what goes into selling huge no of hardware. It sure isn’t related to just one thing.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Luckily it's child's play to argue them with facts.
But it's quite pathetic how some seem to be borderline delusional at this point.
ToadMan
Member
That's xbox fluffers - misery loves company...
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Actually there is a little more to it than that. The stuff we read here on Gaf and most of the English language news around videogames is heavily biased to the US market.
But for the gaming market, what happens in the USA isn't relevant outside the US. Xbox has crashed yes - but it's a crash that most gamers worldwide didn't notice or care about. The gaming market is like sports - yes American sports are wildly popular in the US, and largely ignored everywhere else, and gaming seems to follow that model.
So the consoles doomed stuff, is coming from one current example - Xbox. Yes it's an important example because the US remains the single biggest gaming market but it is still just one market. The xbox brand is kind of toxic though and that bleeds through to its media and some consumers - they would rather see everything about the hobby fail, than accept the market has chosen a different path.
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Killjoy-NL
Member
You do realize Xbox is heavily reliant on GamePass and GamePass is heavily reliant on Xbox hardware sales, right?
Because GamePass isn't really taking off on PC at all and Xbox hardware is dead, so there is no growth there.
To make it worse, given sales and revenue data, Xbox itself is heavily reliant on Playstation.
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Horseganador
Member
The Playstation numbers are incredible, 9.5 million consoles sold this quarter, 20.2 million during 2024 (second year that passes 20 million and this year GTAVI...), 96 million games sold this quarter, brutal increase in profits, etc... it is absolutely incredible how when the numbers come out the entire negative narrative created around PS5 is destroyed, here we are missing users who were very interested in Sony's figures a few days ago.
vaibhavpisal
Member
GHG
Member
Of course it's not.
Who really thinks a bunch of regular people are going to go and build living room PC's (which require meticulous planning to get the cooling and noise aspects under control in smaller form factors) instead of just buying a Playstation to play exactly the same games?
What are you talking about? It already collapsed.
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Killjoy-NL
Member
Nobody said anything about collapse. Not yet anyway.
They'll probably follow Ubisoft.
DrFigs
Member
are you doing a bit rn?
I just mean in that xbox sales have already collapsed. we saw the collapse already this gen and it is ongoing.
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drganon
Member
2nd best sales behind a PS4 Pro quarter that didn't have 30th anniversary consoles to bump it some more?
Sorry but that confirms
asdasdasdbb
Member
Keep in mind this is "Sell In" (Shipped to retailers) not "Sell through" (Bought by consumers)
Maybe Sony stuffed the US Channel a bit instead of dialing it back down, cuz, you know?
Maybe Sony stuffed the US Channel a bit instead of dialing it back down, cuz, you know?
I don't think that's fair on dench seems like a decent fella to me.I see Dench is still at it. Truly showing who/what he’s about and anyone wanting a serious discussion regarding anything PlayStation related needn’t waste their time.
As for the results, predicted, so all I have to do is brush off the stench of Dench from my shoulders.
After reading through that exchange, just seems like a difference in opinion to me, don't feel like he's purposely trolling or anything.
I think he was wrong mind you
Horseganador
Member
And a few days ago, trying to put both companies in the same bag...
Xbox:
-hardware -29%
-Content/services +2%
-Total gaming revenue -7%
PlayStation
PS hardware +16%
Network Services +28%
Total gaming revenue +16.5%
Xbox:
-hardware -29%
-Content/services +2%
-Total gaming revenue -7%
PlayStation
PS hardware +16%
Network Services +28%
Total gaming revenue +16.5%
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
You know it!
Luminoth-4545
Member
You'll find out next quarter. If next quarter shipments are decent (3 to 4 million) then they didn't, but if they are subpar (2.5 million or lower) then they probably did.
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HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
I once thought as you do. The problem goes far beyond that exchange, however. He picks and chooses when he wants to pretend to be an ally and full blown partisan. Trust me, plenty of us have tried with him.
The latest stuff just shows it’s all an act and always has been! He would have gotten full respect had he just admitted he was wrong and gave credit where due.
Because the thread isn’t about him, I don’t want/need to drag it out any further. I’d just say reserve benefit of the doubt for those who truly deserve it.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Eh....I'm all for giving a guy the benefit of the doubt, but not when he is shown to be wrong and moves the goalposts instead of simply admitting he was wrong. And when you see it repeated enough times, you come to realize when someone is just full of shit.
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gow3isben
Member
And an extra 2 year drought from making all their heavy hitters focus on live service and then make a u turn lol
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Doesn’t matter. To Sony, it’s a sale and those shipped devices will be in consumers’ hands at some point anyway.
No way to spin this negatively.
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Skifi28
Member
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
What goal posts did I shift?
I attempted to explain why these questions are coming up. That when investors etc look at the overall tam of console gaming. Sales are falling and software sales are falling.
Sony is doing extremely well but these bean countera don't care. I wasn't defending igns plummeting sales comments. I was in complete disagreement of those.
I think, just being completely honest, that it can feel that when you have a different opinion that the pile on can happen and I admit I get defensive and maybe not explain myself too well.
Not asking for anyone to believe me and I'm all for having your opinions of me. That's fine. I know what I mean deep down.
I honestly think most of it is lost in translation in text and I'm trying my best to improve my posting but yeh. Just trying to add some clarity to it.