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[Ashodin]

the JRAPHICS looks great

ew wtf is that card frame

I wonder if Ixalan was developed in mind for Arena

 

[Royal_Flush]

This font, ugh. What is this, Arial?

 

[darkside31337]

digital cards not even looking remotely like actual magic cards... not a great start

 

[Ashodin]

digital cards not even looking remotely like actual magic cards... not a great start

The colors are off

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

they could learn a ton about visual design from blizzard

 

[aidan]

Standard only to begin with:

We want to create the deepest, richest digital card game on the market. Magic already boasts some of the deepest strategy of any TCG in the world, tabletop or digital, and MTG Arena's goal is to live up to that depth right at the start of Closed Beta. By the time we go into full launch, MTG Arena will feature the full card sets in Standard, with around 1,000 new cards added every year. That means deeper gameplay, more experiences to discover, and more room to explore.

Source.

 

[Ashodin]

they could learn a ton of visual design from blizzard

they already have

wow, lots of animations, sounds, everything

Commune With Dinosaurs G

Sorcery

Look at the top five cards, put any dinos into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

they already have

wow, lots of animations, sounds, everything

except hearthstone looks and sounds fantastic.

 

[Santiako]

I hate that it doesn't actually tap the cards.

 

[Ashodin]

except hearthstone looks and sounds fantastic.

Yeah well Blizzard has a fuckton of PC design artists in their development group

I hate that it doesn't actually tap the cards.

They're tapped but sort of.

 

[El Topo]

Can't say I'm impressed.

 

[aidan]

More details:

WHAT THIS MEANS FOR TABLETOP MAGIC AND MAGIC ONLINE
The focus of MTG Arena will be on the newest cards and game modes. Because of this, we know that Magic Online—which has a library of nearly every card ever printed from the game's entire history—will continue to offer experiences to players that are unique to Magic Online. Development on Magic Online will continue with new card sets, new updates, and ongoing tournaments. For more on the future of Magic Online, be sure to read Chris Kiritz's article, also posted today.

Another key goal for for MTG Arena is for both the tabletop and digital versions of the game to complement one another. We are exploring opportunities to connect real-world in-store play with digital play. We are still developing and evolving our plans, but we want your Magic gameplay to be part of a larger, integrated experience over time, in ways that have never been possible before.

 

[Ashodin]

We are exploring opportunities to connect real-world in-store play with digital play.

hngggggg give it to me

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Yeah well Blizzard has a fuckton of PC design artists in their development group

that's why I said they could learn a ton from them, bruh

 

[darkside31337]

this looks worse than mtgo :/

 

[jph139]

Looks like Duels++, which is fine by me, because I liked Duels.

 

[Santiako]

this looks worse than mtgo :/

Looks much better, streamlined and cleaner for streaming and newer players.

 

[kirblar]

this looks worse than mtgo :/

MTGO apparently not going anywhere: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/magic-online-moving-forward-2017-09-07

 

[Ashodin]

that's why I said they could learn a ton from them, bruh

a fuckton

oh interesting, Hostage Taker has the updated wording. DIgital games breh

 

[aidan]

I already want to turn off sound effects.

 

[blindrocket]

I hate that it doesn't actually tap the cards.

I agree.


So Casual Constructed. This means it will have deck building but no prizes and/or no tournament? Just matchmaking / quick match sort of stuff?
And I wonder how you actually GET the cards.

 

[Lazy vs Crazy]

So MTGO isn't changing at all and Arena is basically just updated Duels?

This seems fine.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

I would expect to see features/formats from MTGO *slowly* drop over the years as they add those features to MTG:Arena.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I agree.


So Casual Constructed. This means it will have deck building but no prizes and/or no tournament? Just matchmaking / quick match sort of stuff?
And I wonder how you actually GET the cards.

i would assume it's going to be a HS clone in those aspects too

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Oh the website says that it will support drafting. Sweet.

 

[aidan]

I would expect to see features/formats from MTGO *slowly* drop over the years as they add those features to MTG:Arena.

Yep. Arena will be the platform that supports Standard/Drafts, whereas MTGO will slowly shift over to an Eternal-focused platform.

 

[A Serious Man]

I would expect to see features/formats from MTGO *slowly* drop over the years as they add those features to MTG:Arena.

Yeah, they can't come out and say it but I imagine they want this to slowly replace MTGO over the next few years. They want to move to a world where every streamer is using Arena and not MTGO.

 

[aidan]

I've been running the stream in the background while they work, but not really watching the video. Have they shown how priority/instants work?

 

[Jhriad]

We are exploring opportunities to connect real-world in-store play with digital play.

This would be really helpful for supporting their network of WPN stores.

 

[bigkrev]

It looks about how I expected. I'm watching without sound, but there doesn't appear to be a "bluff" window when your opponent casts spells, which is bad.

The business model is going to be key here. You can't copy Hearthstone here- If you want to have pros stream constructed here, you can't expect them to grind.

I'll never forget Brian Kibler playing in a Hearthstone tournament having to grind games as a Hunter to unlock basic cards, just so he could have a legal 5th deck.

This will need to have a way to just pay $$$$ and get a complete deck, like MTGO does from bots


Also, as someone who plays Hearthsone with sounds off and wishes you could turn dumb animations off, if that is not an option here, this product is a non-starter for me

 

[Ashodin]

i would assume it's going to be a HS clone in those aspects too

I think so too yeah.

 

[aidan]

I'm really grateful that they didn't copy Hearthstone and make Planeswalkers (and/or specifically the Gatewatch) the face of the game/player avatars.

 

[A Serious Man]

I've been running the stream in the background while they work, but not really watching the video. Have they shown how priority/instants work?

Not totally sure but Gaby just cast an instant in the declare blockers phase. Couldn't tell if your opponent has to pass priority during main phases or not.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

the observer they had didn't seem to show everything. Didn't see how passing priority worked exactly

 

[Ashodin]

I'm really grateful that they didn't copy Hearthstone and make Planeswalkers (and/or specifically the Gatewatch) the face of the game/player avatars.

I think they'll be going further in the direction of customizing yourself - sleeves, player avatars, Boros Legion badges, etc.

There's a LOT they could do here.

 

[El Topo]

I'm really grateful that they didn't copy Hearthstone and make Planeswalkers (and/or specifically the Gatewatch) the face of the game/player avatars.

If Duels is any indication they're gonna sell avatars for money. That and other things (such as sleeves).

There's a LOT they could do here.

I'd expect them to take the customization/monetization in Duels to the next level.

 

[bigkrev]

One last point: If Ixilan is going to be the first set on this, and they aren't going back- the replacement format for Modern will start with Kaladesh, not with M15 like Frontier

 

[Ashodin]

The creature enter effects last a little too long for my tastes? Hearthstone's are short, sweet, and sometimes jokey

Growing Rites of Itlimoc 2G
Leg Enchant
When ~ ETB, look at top four cards of library, Get a creature card, put rest on bottom.
At end step, if you have four creatures, transform it

Itlimoc
Legendary Land
T: Add G
T: Add G to your mana pool for every creature you control

fucking Gaea's Cradle bitches

 

[FreedomFrisbee]

It looks about how I expected. I'm watching without sound, but there doesn't appear to be a "bluff" window when your opponent casts spells, which is bad.

There is, they were playing fast. Every cast card appears to need approved. You can't have priority passing without bluffing.

People acting like this doesn't look like hearthstone are crazy, so many visual cues being taken here.

It sounds like they haven't decided on a business model yet and that's what I'm actually most interested to hear.

 

[StrategyFan]

One last point: If Ixilan is going to be the first set on this, and they aren't going back- the replacement format for Modern will start with Kaladesh, not with M15 like Frontier

they showed a card from hour of devastation in it

 

[aidan]

New card:

Edit: Seems good.

 

[A Serious Man]

Gaea's Cradle what the fuck

 

[Firemind]

Looks much better, streamlined and cleaner for streaming and newer players.

yeah but does it have cubes?

 

[Nachos]

Ain't gonna lie; I know nothing of Magic, but a lot of this UI looks like what you'd get if there were a CSI episode of digital card games.

I really want this to be good, though.

 

[Santiako]

That looks pretty good.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

this sounds like we'll basically start with Ixalan set constructed at first and they'll add standard sets over time

also going to pres gets you priority for beta

 

[divisionbyzorro]

EDIT: Beaten.

 

[bigkrev]

Have they shown "The Stack" at all?

 

[The Technomancer]

LOL JACE SPEAKS

 

[Bandini]

Will you need to pay $200+ to even compete? If it's cheap it could be a smash hit