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[Xis]

Around 1000 cards added each year means they will just be keeping up with new releases and not back-filling old sets.

 

[aidan]

So, one of my biggest annoyances in Hearthstone is the fixed hand ordering, and it looks like they're doing it in Arena, too. It's just the sort of mechanic that can give a player a tiny advantage for having a good memory and bothering to keep track of it, which drives me nuts.

Pokemon TCGO randomizes card placement in your opponent's hand—they can draw a specific card from their deck, reveal it, it goes into the their hand at the front, but when they play it immediately, it comes from the middle of their hand. I don't get why other online card games don't do this.

 

[A Serious Man]

Draft and Sealed confirmed.

 

[Ashodin]

Constructed, Ranked Ladder to climb

Draft, Sealed

Maybe Digital only formats in the future

 

[Santiako]

Exploring digital only formats could be interesting.

 

[Etrian Oddity]

So

Fucking

Dumb.

Pour all this money into Arena, and then split your userbase? Do they really think pros are going to EVER stream Arena?

WotC proves yet again they do not understand technology.

Just like when they had one of the best message board communities on the entire fucking Internet, then killed the forums because WotC wanted to catch in on the MySpace blog craze and tried to force that on the users.

 

[The Technomancer]

Around 1000 cards added each year means they will just be keeping up with new releases and not back-filling old sets.

I'd like them to eventually back-fill to cover all of Modern but yeah, I don't need full Vintage support in this thing

 

[Ashodin]

Loving the internet's name for Itlimoc

Ikea's Cradle (gotta build it yourself)

 

[blindrocket]

I find it interesting. Especially that it's just casual...

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I might die binging this if they add commander eventually

 

[A Serious Man]

I find it interesting. Especially that it's just casual...

It has a ranked ladder and they mentioned they're looking at how to tie it into Organized Play. I can absolutely see it having MOCS style events eventually.

 

[sgjackson]

if this isn't a modo replacement it wouldn't shock me if there's eventually a new eternal format that starts with the first set in arena

 

[Ashodin]

I might die binging this if they add commander eventually

you and me gonna play commander all night

 

[Firemind]

it's not for me i guess

 

[blindrocket]

I might die binging this if they add commander eventually

Oh, if they add Commander I'm all over it. F2P casual with a streamlined interface.... oh yes.

 

[Fou-Lu]

WotC proves yet again they do not understand technology.

Just like when they had one of the best message board communities on the entire fucking Internet, then killed the forums because WotC wanted to catch in on the MySpace blog craze and tried to force that on the users.

That was awful, so much good content was lost.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I'd like them to eventually back-fill to cover all of Modern but yeah, I don't need full Vintage support in this thing

This would have to take off in a very unlikely way before I would think they would do that.

 

[aidan]

Adding old sets hasn't been ruled out if players are vocal about wanting them.

 

[Ashodin]

holy shit Samut's forked bolt can trigger enrage. hmmmmmmm

 

[Justin]

holy shit Samut's forked bolt can trigger enrage. hmmmmmmm

bro! I was saying this last night and people were laughing at me for getting excited about samut

 

[A Serious Man]

No trading. Definitely sounding like a Hearthstone-like model but no real specifics.

 

[aidan]

No trading.

Some sort of ongoing built-in campaign-style experience.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

no trade right now

 

[divisionbyzorro]

I'd want older card support more for Commander and Cube than Modern/Legacy/Vintage, to be honest.

 

[Ashodin]

No trading.

Some sort of ongoing built-in campaign-style experience.

Yep, totally going Hearthstone.

 

[aidan]

Built on Unity. So it'll be on everything eventually.

 

[A Serious Man]

Game built in Unity, definitely sounds like they want to expand out from PC.

 

[darkside31337]

sweet its on unity. will finally be able to play magic on my ps4

 

[Tunoku]

Gotta du- uh disenchant? your foils to make your Tier 1 deck, I guess.

 

[The Technomancer]

This would have to take off in a very unlikely way before I would think they would do that.

I suspect that, for Modern at least, a lot of the weird mechanics that would eat up implementation time will get taken care of when they come up in a new set. Like if four years from now we've had a set with split cards, a set with poison counters, etc etc that work is already done and, say, adding Return to Ravnica becomes a matter of programming Unleash and Populate which are interactions the game already fundamentally has

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

 

[jph139]

I'll admit that Commander with a cardpool of, at best, Kaladesh onward sounds interesting.

How many actual options would there be? Like, maybe 50 Legendary Creatures from then until Ixalan? Would be weird.

 

[The Technomancer]

No trading sounds wrong to me on an instinctual level but its proooooobably the right call here honestly.

 

[aidan]

No trading sounds wrong to me on an instinctual level but its proooooobably the right call here honestly.

Pokemon TCGO has trading and it's created a really bizarre secondary market where everything's value is based on boosters. Different booster sets have different value based on what might be inside. It's suuuuuper confusing and unintuitive. The Heartstone model is probably better for MTG.

 

[sgjackson]

I'm mostly interested in this for draft, so I'm curious about:

1. If draft is live or if it's asynchronous like Eternal or randomly generated like Hearthstone.
2. How much it costs to draft regularly. Is it possible to go infinite/very slow bleed like HS?

 

[Ashodin]

Cards tapping not all the way is feedback from players that tapped cards looked "weird" digitally.

AH you CAN reorder the cards in your hand.

 

[Justin]

So, one of my biggest annoyances in Hearthstone is the fixed hand ordering, and it looks like they're doing it in Arena, too. It's just the sort of mechanic that can give a player a tiny advantage for having a good memory and bothering to keep track of it, which drives me nuts.

Just announced you can reorder the cards in your hand.

 

[ThLunarian]

They finally found a way to make overpowered lands that doesn't involve sacrificing things. Bravo to Wizards

 

[Joe Molotov]

Cards tapping not all the way is feedback from players that tapped cards looked "weird" digitally.

AH you CAN reorder the cards in your hand.

If you can't flick your cards, how would they ever get the pros on board?

 

[Ashodin]

If you can't flick your cards, how would they ever get the pros on board?

especially Finkel

 

[Angry Grimace]

The white one turns into Aysen Highway

=V

 

[Repgnar]

It has potential but I feel like they're not willing to commit. Splitting the player base is lame although I understand that the way they're setting it up means that the older formats are going to be the last ones to be supported if at all. I'd be more interested in it if they came out and said that they're first supporting Ixalan, limited, standard and then will 100% support the older formats with the intention of replacing MTGO with the polished version of this. Instead it just sounds like the versions of MTG they've released in the last few years. It'll be F2P so i'll download it and give it a shot but they could reach so much more with a modern(not in the format sense) MTGO client.

 

[Ashodin]

The white one turns into Aysen Highway

=V

fuck no

It turns into Always Watching

 

[A Serious Man]

Well, honestly, I'm pretty excited. This definitely looks like the most competent digital product they've produced so far. This is clearly a big investment for them, if they eventually get Commander and Modern in there I may never leave my house again.

 

[Simply Sarah]

I'll admit that Commander with a cardpool of, at best, Kaladesh onward sounds interesting.

How many actual options would there be? Like, maybe 50 Legendary Creatures from then until Ixalan? Would be weird.

It would be awful for years and years at minimum. 100 card singleton decks want to have a lot of options and they wouldn't here.

The white one turns into Aysen Highway

=V

But I don't need another copy. D:

 

[The Technomancer]

Yeah I'm pretty excited for this

 

[aidan]

They just showed a brief glimpse at Hearthstone-style card backs.

 

[Ashodin]

MaRo is always so excitable lol

OHH I SAW SLEEVES :O

 

[siddx]

Fuck it, signed up for the beta. Still bitter about them abandoning duels though.

 

[FreedomFrisbee]

This looks like it's exactly what reasonable people were expecting. The only thing they haven't committed to is codes in packs and it sounds like that's only because they don't know exactly how they want to do it.