Ignis Fatuus
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Chihiro has been promoted to the main cast so that's a fitting consolation prize. Chihiro is the realest character in a way, which makes her a perfect foil to Keima.
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Chihiro has been promoted to the main cast so that's a fitting consolation prize. Chihiro is the realest character in a way, which makes her a perfect foil to Keima.
Crash Station
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Aporhism
Damn, Tomonaga's out already? Well that sucks. Dude was broken as hell and could have made for a great villain.
I hope that doesn't mean the plot point of taking down the school is abandoned, because right now they seem like the main antagonist.
Damn, Tomonaga's out already? Well that sucks. Dude was broken as hell and could have made for a great villain.
I hope that doesn't mean the plot point of taking down the school is abandoned, because right now they seem like the main antagonist.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You just an Ayumi Fanboy
Dedication Through Light
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Fairy Tail
Really cool chapter for Elfman fans. I almost thought he was going to lose, but like Natsu (in the beginning there), when thinking of friends, their strength increases 100fold. Now we need just Gray to get another match so he can win and Gajeel too.
It seemed like the one they want is Lucy, Im guessing, an assault on the spirit realm?
I wish the movie page was translated, curious on what its about since it is fortunately completely different than that promo nalu image given before.
Really cool chapter for Elfman fans. I almost thought he was going to lose, but like Natsu (in the beginning there), when thinking of friends, their strength increases 100fold. Now we need just Gray to get another match so he can win and Gajeel too.
It seemed like the one they want is Lucy, Im guessing, an assault on the spirit realm?
I wish the movie page was translated, curious on what its about since it is fortunately completely different than that promo nalu image given before.
Ignis Fatuus
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The correct type of fanboy.
If she doesn't win I will rewrite the ending. I'm going down with my ship.
ColossalLazy
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Keima doesnt love her, hell him didnt love any of the girls he conquered.
I wont be surprised if he ends alone with his games, according to him Mokyun is the best girl.
Relaxed Muscle
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None of the other 180 girls have been told by her best friend he's a womanizer that was trying to get close to her with tricks and good words. She's just asking that he put some real emotion since she realized that all before that was just acting.
*raises hand*
Ignis Fatuus
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ColossalLazy
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And in the anime adaptation, all of the girls are voiced by Rie Kugimiya
Because it's directed like a SHAFT episode. http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36691266&postcount=8128 which is... more or a less a good thing in this case.
We cannot be Nisekoi bros but, I can always leave it to TWGOK to give out brofists.
Only if the Kugilolis are like Taiga.
Then you'll be known as some sort of "apprentice" of Wakaki, and I can be your DTL.
ColossalLazy
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Aphorism 18-19
So happy someone picked this up. Rokudou other persona is quite brutal, he owned Tomonaga pretty easily.
It seems he is a previous student or has a connection to the school judging by Hinata action.
So happy someone picked this up. Rokudou other persona is quite brutal, he owned Tomonaga pretty easily.
It seems he is a previous student or has a connection to the school judging by Hinata action.
Chairmanchuck
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I finished reading Ohikkoshi.
Really loved it. I wish there were more Manga like that. Short, but still so much going on. And realistic.
Only similar mangaka I know are Hiroki Endo and Asano Inio.
Kinda sad to see that such manga dont sell well in the western countries...
Really loved it. I wish there were more Manga like that. Short, but still so much going on. And realistic.
Only similar mangaka I know are Hiroki Endo and Asano Inio.
Kinda sad to see that such manga dont sell well in the western countries...
I finished reading Ohikkoshi.
Really loved it. I wish there were more Manga like that. Short, but still so much going on. And realistic.
Only similar mangaka I know are Hiroki Endo and Asano Inio.
Kinda sad to see that such manga dont sell well in the western countries...
Hmm, now I'm interested. Gonna check it out soon
Chairmanchuck
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Those manga just give off the same "vibe". A more realistic, mature Manga.
Sometimes I just think I am too old for the "School-Comedy" Manga. But it really makes me sad to see those Manga sell bazillions here, while more mature manga seems to have low sales.
Sometimes I think that people with a similar taste of mine are quite rare in the "manga-culture" nowadays.
Too bad, since (about 12 years ago at least in Germany) the manga became big with titles like Eden, Blame, Battle Angel Alita etc.
Dedication Through Light
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I couldnt help but chuckle just imagining that in his voice in the anime.
curious, was that the undying dude at the beginning of 19 talking about being sad tomonaga was gone?
ColossalLazy
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He probably had some plans concerning Tomonoga (he could be using him).
Eh, not really. There's definitely a reader base, but those kind of works are some what niche and appeal to an older audience (obviously). Those were the only kind of manga I read during my 4 year "break". One of the comic shops here only stocks those kind of manga, though their selection is quite small. Another bookstore here has a small comic section, consisting of more "literary" comics (I don't know a good term) and you can find a handful of more mature manga stocked alongside them and it's something I've seen before at other bookstores and such.
Popular manga in the thread or current obsessions just get a lot of play. That doesn't necessarily mean we aren't reading a lot of different stuff. Just keep your eyes open, especially on flawful's posts.
I finished reading Ohikkoshi.
Really loved it. I wish there were more Manga like that. Short, but still so much going on. And realistic.
Only similar mangaka I know are Hiroki Endo and Asano Inio.
Kinda sad to see that such manga dont sell well in the western countries...
Depends on which western countries you look at. I don't think authors like Samura, Endo, Asano do badly in all the west, especially because, if they did, their works wouldn't keep getting licensed and published outside of Japan.
Chairmanchuck
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Its just...
... even if I see sales of manga here in Germany. Almost all the more mature manga wont have good sales.
A lot of them need to be cross-financed or sold for a higher price.
Lets just take What a wonderful World as an example. In Germany after it has been released the publisher said they wont ever release any more works by Asano again, because almost no one bought it.
There are more examples like that.
But if you see the sales-charts, you can see the normal shounen-manga, besides the 08/15 BL- and Shoujo-Manga.
It is quite sad to me, because I dont really feel like I am part of the "manga/anime-culture" or more like I am in quite a minority of the "culture".
It is not only manga, also anime. I am glad I bought Tezukas Buddha DVD in China with chinese subtitles, but I still cant understand why there are no english fansubs of it now. I mean its friggin Tezuka, but instead you can see even last year 3 movies of Pretty Cure were subbed.
An anime-movie based on one of the stories of the "inventor" of modern japanese manga wont get subbed, but 3 movies about some magical girls?
That is also one of the things that is saddening me, looking at how the "culture" looks now overseas.
Hm...
Mostly America and Germany.
I guess a lot of these titles arent selling that well. I know Viz decided to publish some Seinen-Manga a few years ago, but even the "ryhtm" between the volumes is too long to be considered that these are selling well.
It looks more like its cross-financed by better selling titles.
... even if I see sales of manga here in Germany. Almost all the more mature manga wont have good sales.
A lot of them need to be cross-financed or sold for a higher price.
Lets just take What a wonderful World as an example. In Germany after it has been released the publisher said they wont ever release any more works by Asano again, because almost no one bought it.
There are more examples like that.
But if you see the sales-charts, you can see the normal shounen-manga, besides the 08/15 BL- and Shoujo-Manga.
It is quite sad to me, because I dont really feel like I am part of the "manga/anime-culture" or more like I am in quite a minority of the "culture".
It is not only manga, also anime. I am glad I bought Tezukas Buddha DVD in China with chinese subtitles, but I still cant understand why there are no english fansubs of it now. I mean its friggin Tezuka, but instead you can see even last year 3 movies of Pretty Cure were subbed.
An anime-movie based on one of the stories of the "inventor" of modern japanese manga wont get subbed, but 3 movies about some magical girls?
That is also one of the things that is saddening me, looking at how the "culture" looks now overseas.
Hm...
Mostly America and Germany.
I guess a lot of these titles arent selling that well. I know Viz decided to publish some Seinen-Manga a few years ago, but even the "ryhtm" between the volumes is too long to be considered that these are selling well.
It looks more like its cross-financed by better selling titles.
Glass Rebel
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Started reading Mushishi, this manga is so chill.
I finished reading Ohikkoshi.
Really loved it. I wish there were more Manga like that. Short, but still so much going on. And realistic.
Only similar mangaka I know are Hiroki Endo and Asano Inio.
Kinda sad to see that such manga dont sell well in the western countries...
So you are just looking for compact manga targeted at an older audience? I think there is more stuff out there than you think. Like Zekes said that kind of stuff has its own kinda separate base.
As far a licensed stuff goes there are a few publishers who basically specialize in that sort of thing like Vertical, Ponent Mon and the Viz signature stuff.
As far as specific recommendations go
The Town of Evening Calm; The Country of Cherry Blossoms is incredible and everyone should read it.
Everything by Jiro Taniguchi is great and he has a ton of stuff translated. My favourite is probably Haruka na Machi e.
Taiyou Matsumoto is incredible and everything he has made has been genius. The stuff he has done that has gotten licensed is Tekkon Kinkreet, Gogo Monster and Number Five.
Then there is always Tezuka's more mature stuff like MW, Ode to Kirohito, Apollos Song, Adolf and Buddha
If you are willing to read unlicenced stuff I could go on for ages. I made a massive list of mostly stuff like this a while ago in this thread, but it is sort of outdated now and all the links are dead. It still might be useful though.
Chairmanchuck
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Already own almost all the manga you listed, but I thought The Town of Evening Calm; The Country of Cherry Blossoms was too "tame".
Liked Barefoot Gen more.
And of course I like to read unlicensed stuff. Thats what my iPad is for
Liked Barefoot Gen more.
And of course I like to read unlicensed stuff. Thats what my iPad is for
TLRD (ch18)
-Got to start catching up somewhere.
Works for me! That Momo logic...
-Got to start catching up somewhere.
Works for me! That Momo logic...
Yea dude. Very different especially coming off UDDUP.
I see.
Didn't think they would do bad in Germany, personally. I know they do well here in Italy, for example. Latest Asano release have been Solanin and Punpun which is ongoing (I think everything of his has been released here? We even have "a girl by the sea" planned for release in the future), Endo has Meguru and soon a re-release of Eden in Perfect Edition format.
Naturally, they are authors with a smaller market compared to shonen/shojo authors and the new(old) BL craze, so their releases have higher prices.
Chairmanchuck
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Oh. I didnt know these titles are even avaiable in Italy. When I was there about 8 years ago, I just saw One Piece in the bookstores.
Seems somehow I should learn more Italian. Ah, guess with perfect Chinese in the future, it also wont be a big problem *haha*
I liked the fact that it was so tame. Honestly I probably liked it more for the soft bittersweet atmosphere than the actual content.
You guys should check out the anime. It's the best adaptation of any manga ever. Seriously.
Did. One of the best adaptations along with Planetes and a few others.
Why aren't you reading TLRD?
You know what pisses me off about Viz doing these seinen manga? Long time ago I was reading on Mania forums and one of Vertical employees was posting there about possible new licenses. One person suggested Asano stuff and the Vertical employee mentioned that Asano is a Viz guy so they won't try to bring his work. And Viz isn't even translating any of his other works. What a sad world
I don't read filth
For what it's worth, it won't even be close to that same manga in about 14 chapters.
How do you explain Minamoto then?
Oh new chapter is out? Time to check it out
Maybe I should just skip to chapter 14 then
It's not filth
Crash Station
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Probably a bad idea. Some vital character get introduced before the shift to battle series. There might be a few you could skip anyway, but I wouldn't recommend skipping ALL of them.
Hahahahaha...
The fucking NA manga industry is killing me
The fucking NA manga industry is killing me
cosmic since you are the shounen expert, how would you rank Medaka Box as a battle manga?
Medaka Box goes into it's first genre shift at around chapter 13 or so, and the manga picks up a lot with each shift.
Crash Station
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As a battle series, it's really all over the place. I usually value 3 things in the genre; tactics, scale, badass pages/shots. MB consistently has the scale down and usually has the badassery down, but the tactics are on a case by case basis. There are some fights that I absolutely love, but plenty are really asspully and have completely incoherent conclusions. I guess I'd say that portion averages out to above average-good.
However, when taking into account of more than just the fights, I would say it's a really solid series. The genre shift basically happened because of poor ratings, so Nisioisin decided to have a ton of fun with it and turned it into a kind of meta commentary on the genre. It gets some very intriguing 4th-wall breaking characters as well as a few super broken ones. In fact, it gets one of the best characters in manga IMO (he's been mentioned here quite a bit).
As far as genre-shifted to battle series go, I would put Medaka Box at the top, beating out Reborn, Negima, and Rosario. I hated the first 13 or so chapters too, so I would say stick with it. No promises of course, but that's how I see it. Definitely felt that it was worth it.
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