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19.5 years.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
That's not a lot compared to some other series :lol
Yeah, definitely gives me hope for the rest of this series.
Yep, though I wasn't expecting it to start happening so soon but I blame that on my woefully low expectations for most WSJ series.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
That's kinda what scares me.
Hell, golgo 13 is still ongoing.
So is glass mask, but that's mostly due to hiatuses.
And so does Kochira Katsuhika-ku Kameari Kôen Mae Hashutsujo, but I can't imagine the original authors are still hard on work on those...
Passive Assassin
Member
Blade of the Immortal
I'm guessing Rin died and Manji has to take care of her grandchild. OH DERP. I skimmed through the 90 years later. Thought it was 10.
brotkasten
Member
Loli RPG Guts is the worst. That doesn't mean the manga is bad, but it definitely got worse compared to the earlier volumes.
It's just annoying that he has to rely on friendship and loli power for every fight. And Grifith is pretty cool.
brotkasten
Member
In terms of character I'd say post-eclipse Guts > Golden Age Guts >>> Friendship is Magic Guts. Griffith pretty much replaced him as the best protagonist.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Griffith replaced THE PERSON YOU WANT TO PUNCH IN THE FACE TO DEATH.
brotkasten
Member
You can't make an omelette without breaking few eggs. World peace comes at a price and Griffith realized that.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I wouldn't call it world peace.
It kinda got worse.
It kinda got worse.
Glass Rebel
Member
I know why he's doing it but I think there are better ways. We know that Guts has Plot Armor until he faces off against Griffith so bringing in companions to raise the stakes against him (and it acts as a nice throwback to the Band of Hawk times, theoretically) but his battles have become extremely formulaic because he's so dependent on Shierke.
iDOLM@STER Griffith is barely a character.
I agree with the rest though.
Passive Assassin
Member
You guys are talking like Gutts and Griffith will ever meet again in your lifetime lol.
brotkasten
Member
Berserk
Griffith got humans and apostles to fight together. He united them and they finally accept and protect each other. That's a huge deal, IMO. The new threat is unfortunate, but with Falconia, Griffith is giving humans a safe place and shelter. It also looks beautiful.
Griffith got humans and apostles to fight together. He united them and they finally accept and protect each other. That's a huge deal, IMO. The new threat is unfortunate, but with Falconia, Griffith is giving humans a safe place and shelter. It also looks beautiful.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Can I remind you that apostles eat people?
I doubt that they'll stop doing that for the rest of their (incredibly long) lifetimes.
Also a lot of rape.
How's the drama so far?
We know.
I doubt that they'll stop doing that for the rest of their (incredibly long) lifetimes.
Also a lot of rape.
How's the drama so far?
We know.
brotkasten
Member
No need for a prison in Falconia! And I'm confident that Lord Griffith will find a proper solution. I mean, they don't have to eat people. They can eat just any other meat they want.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I'm going to bet there's going to be something really gnarly happening in flaconia. Which I'm sure we'll get to see after they reach Elf island.
Haha. Hah...
brotkasten
Member
How many years ago did they say they need to visit the Elf King? I don't think I realize the huge time span, because I read it in one batch.
FlutterPuffs
Member
Orgasms aside, Shokugeki no Soma is a really good manga. Well paced and funny.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
How many Sindbad chapters are we getting? Is it a limited spin off, or a full blown spin off?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Binbougami Ga! 58
Whao.
Whao.
WHAO.
Shit is getting way too real all of a sudden.
So many deaths.
Whao.
Whao.
WHAO.
Shit is getting way too real all of a sudden.
So many deaths.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
It's not amazing, but it's a fun series.
There are so many references too.
Nobunaga no Chef 24
Oh wow.
Stuff is getting real here too. Wonder how ken will get out of this.
There are so many references too.
Nobunaga no Chef 24
Oh wow.
Stuff is getting real here too. Wonder how ken will get out of this.
Glass Rebel
Member
brokasten is really trying hard to spin Griffith not being an asshole
FlutterPuffs
Member
Binbougami Ga's fantastic.
Dedication Through Light
Member
The anime was so funny, Keita and Momo are hilarious.
ColossalLazy
Member
Binbougami Ga! 57-58
brotkasten
Member
I never said he wasn't an asshole, I just think that calling him the anti-christ is a bit exaggerated. We haven't seen him doing anything that would justify it. At least not since he's back in his human form.
Recent development have been too inevitably battle manga for me, but it's still very good.
FlutterPuffs
Member
It still retains the humor, which is alright with me. Reminds me so much of Gintama in its absurdity.
InfiniDragon
Member
You're looking at it all wrong.
Guts is just as strong as he was, probably better. The stuff they threw at him ramped up. If he had fought some of those guys in Black Swordman era, he'd be dead. Besides, he "technically" could use the armor if he wanted, he just willingly doesn't since he doesn't want to be a raving psycho. XD
But the biggest reason current Guts is better is because he actually had growth as a character. Starting to grow to trust others again after the Band of the Hawk incident, realizing that he doesn't have be the borderline crazy cut and paste seinen "dark hero" he was at the beginning of the Black Swordsman arc. Miura's always done a good job with the change of the character, feels natural to me which isn't that common in a manga. One of the reasons I like Guts (besides that he's basically SF3 Ryu with a big-ass sword and a cannon).
Oh, and fuck Griffith (any version) and Mogamett. Maybe since Miura's throwing kids in Berserk he can have Aladdin fly over and nuke Griffith's ass after he's done with racist Dumbledore.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Is Mogamett all over again.
FlutterPuffs
Member
Glass Rebel
Member
Obviously, he's returned to his human form so he could act as a false prophet.
But Guts always had growth as a character. Black Swordsman is basically the result of his time with the Band of the Hawk. This is just a retread of learning to trust people after a traumatic event.
It's even worse!
InfiniDragon
Member
Agreed, he was growing as a character. I think I could have worded what I meant a bit better; I mean because he's actually growing as a character I don't much care about who he was, I'm more interested in who he is currently.
And I don't really blame Miura for the "retread" because it was pretty apparent the whole "it takes a village" concept was going to be a key thing. Not only was there the learning to trust people thing, Guts very quickly realized that he was in bad shape trying to care for Casca on his own, and after having people he could depend on again to provide the stuff he couldn't, he could do the part he does best...the killing stuff.
Thinking about the whole Casca thing again, Guts was kind of like a first time parent in that scenario, not counting the crazy bits (you all know the parts).
brotkasten
Member
I think there's the problem for me. I haven't read many manga and only the big three for years, so Guts character at the beginning was really refreshing for me. Seeing him turning into this boring cut and paste RPG party member that has to rely on his little helper is really a shame, imo.
FlutterPuffs
Member
Yeah, I agree. Right now Berserk seems less about Guts and more about loli witch.
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