Dork Knight
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radcliff said:
Haha -- yeah, a lot of it was crap, but my friends and I couldn't stop laughing at the Brawl for All match. So fucking funny. For me, I just miss that era of wrestling. Everything now is so bland.
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Haha -- yeah, a lot of it was crap, but my friends and I couldn't stop laughing at the Brawl for All match. So fucking funny. For me, I just miss that era of wrestling. Everything now is so bland.
Dork Knight
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Sign of the night: Cena <3's The Unicorns.
Dork Knight
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Ninja Scooter said:
Yeah, she's "married" to Edge. It makes no sense. I don't watch SmackDown so I have no clue how the angle started.
Fourth Storm
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Ninja Scooter said:
They're "married" but now she's going with The Big show apparently. I'm having nightmarish flashbacks of Mae Young giving birth to a hand. It's completely unbelievable.
Fourth Storm
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If Nitro had ended like this back in the day, the ring would be buried in garbage...:lol
Dork Knight
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Spider Silva said:
Totally agree. This 'Mania is beyond boring. Hell, there's not even some ridiculous celebrity match to look forward (thanks to Micky Rourke, I suppose). And at a time when people are saving money, it's not a good sign that the WWE's biggest PPV of the year isn't all that enticing.
About Vickie... I think she is a fantastic heel. The line "Excuse me! Excuse me!" should be made into a shirt. You all should watch Smackdown sometimes. Yeah, many of the story lines are weak but there's an impressive amount of good wrestling almost every week. That's how RAW should be. Have a basic story and let the workers do what they do best in the ring. Not none of the ridiculousness we are getting right now.
You need to have watched SD since around mid-late 2007 when it was obvious that Edge was proclaiming his love to Vickie, the SD GM, so he can get title shots. What turned out to be was fantastic chemistry between the two performers and Vickie G. receiving the best reaction in the WWE.
The angle between the two, I felt, reached its peak late last year when Undertaker was going to face Edge in the HIAC. The build up to that was amazing as Edge had finally snapped. The episode that stands out was when Edge cradled Vickie in his arms in front of the entry way... Edge rambling in coherently and talking about how he was going to beat the Undertaker. It was fantastic. And Vickie played the stressed out/creeped out wife really well.
So in short, I can't hate Vickie G. She's a performer now... I would not have it any other way. It seems like the angle will end soon but I do hope she continues to stay in the WWE in some capacity.
You need to have watched SD since around mid-late 2007 when it was obvious that Edge was proclaiming his love to Vickie, the SD GM, so he can get title shots. What turned out to be was fantastic chemistry between the two performers and Vickie G. receiving the best reaction in the WWE.
The angle between the two, I felt, reached its peak late last year when Undertaker was going to face Edge in the HIAC. The build up to that was amazing as Edge had finally snapped. The episode that stands out was when Edge cradled Vickie in his arms in front of the entry way... Edge rambling in coherently and talking about how he was going to beat the Undertaker. It was fantastic. And Vickie played the stressed out/creeped out wife really well.
So in short, I can't hate Vickie G. She's a performer now... I would not have it any other way. It seems like the angle will end soon but I do hope she continues to stay in the WWE in some capacity.
Spider Silva
Banned
TNA spoilers sound like more WCW era shittiness.
::Rolls eyes::
*The Main Event Mafia come out to the ring. Kurt Angle said that everything he predicted for Destination X came true and that it was the biggest screwjob since Montreal. Yes, since Montreal. Sting tells Angle that he has been loyal to the Mafia but its Angle he has a problem with. Nash sides with Sting and says that he owed Angle nothing. Nash says that he does owe the rest of them something since the last two PPVs, Sting has had his hands raised by Mick Foley. Sting asks Nash what does he want him to do. Angle says he wants Sting to be his partner tonight against Mick Foley and Jeff Jarrett. Jarrett comes out and reminds Angle that he is just a wrestler, not a member of management and he doesnt make the matches. Angle says Jarrett is just trying to protect Sting, that Sting is a liar and Foley is on the inactive list. Foley comes out and asks Sting if he is the decider and that he never ever said hes wrestled his last match. Foley says hes in for the main event. Angle tells Jarrett to Man Up (Briscoes, represent yo). Jarrett accepts and said it all ends tonight.
*Scott Steiner wore a hoodie over his face to mask whatever Samoa Joe did to him at the PPV.
Team No Limit defeated The Motor City Machineguns. Beer Money attacks No Limit and lays them out. Robert Roode takes the mic and says they want to apologize to Team 3D for how they acted last night at the PPV. He says that he knows Team 3D is going to ask for a rematch at Lockdown and thats what they want, a rematch in Philadelphia inside the Six Sides of Steel. He said that when they beat 3D in Philly, they will finally get the respect they deserve. Brother Ray comes out and offers to put the IWGP Tag Team belts against the TNA Tag belts in a battle for true dominance. Ray said when they win, theyll be 22 time tag team champions. Storm says it wont be an off the wagon challenge because they want 3D around to know that they used to be the best, but now its Beer Money. All four have a staredown.
*Taylor Wilde & ODB defeated Raisha Saied & TNA Knockouts champ Awesome Kong when Wilde pinned Kong. Kong attacked ODB afterwards and was beating her when Cody Deaner came from the crowd for the save.
*Jim Cornette interviewed TNA Legends champion AJ Styles. He congratulates Styles for winning the belt and said that after all the Main Event Mafia has done, Styles got a piece back for the Frontline. Booker T comes out and says that if Styles is going to defend the belt against anyone, its him. He calls Styles a paper champion. Styles tells Booker that hes not going to do anything. Sharmell claims that AJ stole the title and Booker will get it back on his own time.
*The Governor defeated Madison Rayne. The Beautiful People attacked the Governor and Rayne cut some of her hair.
*Jeff Jarrett and Mick Foley defeated TNA champion Sting & Kurt Angle. Jeff Jarrett was going to hit Angle with his guitar but Sting grabbed it. Foley nailed Sting with a chair and pinned him.
*Sting grabs the mic and said he he wanted back in the ring, he should have said it. Sting said he saw Foley say two weeks ago that Sting made his career on Hardcore History , but now Sting is going to end it. He challenges Foley to a match at Lockdown.
*Scott Steiner wore a hoodie over his face to mask whatever Samoa Joe did to him at the PPV.
Team No Limit defeated The Motor City Machineguns. Beer Money attacks No Limit and lays them out. Robert Roode takes the mic and says they want to apologize to Team 3D for how they acted last night at the PPV. He says that he knows Team 3D is going to ask for a rematch at Lockdown and thats what they want, a rematch in Philadelphia inside the Six Sides of Steel. He said that when they beat 3D in Philly, they will finally get the respect they deserve. Brother Ray comes out and offers to put the IWGP Tag Team belts against the TNA Tag belts in a battle for true dominance. Ray said when they win, theyll be 22 time tag team champions. Storm says it wont be an off the wagon challenge because they want 3D around to know that they used to be the best, but now its Beer Money. All four have a staredown.
*Taylor Wilde & ODB defeated Raisha Saied & TNA Knockouts champ Awesome Kong when Wilde pinned Kong. Kong attacked ODB afterwards and was beating her when Cody Deaner came from the crowd for the save.
*Jim Cornette interviewed TNA Legends champion AJ Styles. He congratulates Styles for winning the belt and said that after all the Main Event Mafia has done, Styles got a piece back for the Frontline. Booker T comes out and says that if Styles is going to defend the belt against anyone, its him. He calls Styles a paper champion. Styles tells Booker that hes not going to do anything. Sharmell claims that AJ stole the title and Booker will get it back on his own time.
*The Governor defeated Madison Rayne. The Beautiful People attacked the Governor and Rayne cut some of her hair.
*Jeff Jarrett and Mick Foley defeated TNA champion Sting & Kurt Angle. Jeff Jarrett was going to hit Angle with his guitar but Sting grabbed it. Foley nailed Sting with a chair and pinned him.
*Sting grabs the mic and said he he wanted back in the ring, he should have said it. Sting said he saw Foley say two weeks ago that Sting made his career on Hardcore History , but now Sting is going to end it. He challenges Foley to a match at Lockdown.
::Rolls eyes::
Spider Silva said:
Oh yeah, totally agree with the Hardy match up. Though I really do believe Matt is much better heel than he is face. And yeah, Vince is stupid for trying to swerve internet fans with the Matt heel turn. It was supposed to be Christian, Vince. =/
Cena/Edge/Show will most likely suck. I like Cena and Show enough, and Edge is great... but the build up really does stink.
Orton vs HHH is meh to me as well, to be honest. They could have handled this differently. Or maybe its just I have HHH burn out. I like HHH plenty, but he's a 13 time world champion... I respect everything he's done for the business but can't he retire and let someone in the lime light already? That goes for many of the main eventers in the WWE as well...
I personally feel Jericho vs Legends will fall flat if Rourke isn't Jericho's opponent. Why do I want Rourke to wrestle? Just because. =p
MITB... I think CM Punk wins again. But if I had it my way I would choose MVP. But I think he needs more momentum to be considered a contender. And wish he was heel. I don't think he's that great of a face...
Taker vs HBK will probably be the only reason I'll order this Wrestle mania... and who wins MITB. But this feud does not seem epic in the least, you are right.
And you are also right that Jeff should have won the Royal Rumble this year and then won at Wrestlemania. His Armageddon title won, I felt, was memorable. But this would have been a hundred times more eventful, and it would have increased buys of the PPV a lot (if you are into sales like I am).
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
It would still be more interesting I'd think.Outcast2004 said:
rainking187
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A 25 diva battle royal? Who the fuck are all those women?
Wrestlemanias are always so hard to gauge, sometimes you think they are awesome on paper and they turn out eh other times look horrible and turn out well.
Or just in hindsight, I remember liking some of the recent ones, but like hardly remember what happens at 21... never been a huge fan of 18... so on and so on.
So I shall wait until the actual PPV to see how it goes.
With that said, I tink the Taker/HBK build-up has been good. The Edge/Cena/Show thing is kind of weird because the larger story is the Vickie storyline so not even sure what results they are going to go with. Orton/HHH is eh... it has given some cheesy horror like scene though.
Or just in hindsight, I remember liking some of the recent ones, but like hardly remember what happens at 21... never been a huge fan of 18... so on and so on.
So I shall wait until the actual PPV to see how it goes.
With that said, I tink the Taker/HBK build-up has been good. The Edge/Cena/Show thing is kind of weird because the larger story is the Vickie storyline so not even sure what results they are going to go with. Orton/HHH is eh... it has given some cheesy horror like scene though.
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Dork Knight said:
but...she's...not attractive?
The Frankman
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I've been saying this for 2 years; it's the Cuddly Bear Hug of Doom dammit!!!Wrekt said:
Dork Knight
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Penguin said:
Wow! They're unifying the tag titles? I guess they're not even pretending to care about tag team wrestling anymore.
Reneledarker
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That match has potential to be MotN if they give them enough time, it also looks like Vince is preventing ppl to post SD spoilers on the internet to save their 500 episode an increase SD ratings.
Dork Knight
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Penguin said:
Oh, I'm sure it will be a decent match. But, at this point, the tag team titles practically mean nothing. Will unifying the titles help? Maybe. But I doubt it. It's the same kind of blind hope us light heavyweight title fans had back in the day when the dirt sheets kept on talking about how Vince wanted to build up the crusierweight division. And, well, we all know how that turned out! :lol
Spider Silva
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Dork Knight said:
Sad thing is, you know Morrison and Miz will win. WWE acts like they're some awesome team, yet hearing Morrison cut a promo is like if they handed a 3rd grader a mic.
Dork Knight
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Spider Silva said:
I'm kinda biased because I haven't seen Carlito and his bro (it's his bro, right?) wrestle on SmackDown, but I actually dig Miz and Morrison as a team. And, sure, Morrison is no Michaels on the mike, but he's not terrible. Some of the dirt sheet segments on WWE.com are pretty fucking funny. He's a pretty good wrestler, too. Miz? Well, he's gotten better. That's about the nicest thing I can say about him!
Spider Silva
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Dork Knight said:I'm kinda biased because I haven't seen Carlito and his bro (it's his bro, right?) wrestle on SmackDown, but I actually dig Miz and Morrison as a team. And, sure, Morrison is no Michaels on the mike, but he's not terrible. Some of the dirt sheet segments on WWE.com are pretty fucking funny. He's a pretty good wrestler, too. Miz? Well, he's gotten better. That's about the nicest thing I can say about him!
Sorry, there's something about Morrison the way he talks its just ... bad. It's like he tries to be dramatic and badass and just sounds like a dork. He can't help it, he just sounds like some beach bum dude or something, if he had a voice like HBK or something he would be a main eventer.
Morrison is pretty good on the mic. A cocky, self-absorbed prick. But I do like his gimmick and hope he and Miz stay together for a while as the (eventual?) tag champs. At least they're using Morrison in WM, since they couldn't put him in the MitB match.
Unifying the tag belts is a great thing to have. Hopefully the Woman's title is next.
Unifying the tag belts is a great thing to have. Hopefully the Woman's title is next.
Morrison is not the best at mic skills, but he is a hell of a wrestler.Spider Silva said:
And this Wrestlemania doesnt look too great,tough the match between HBK Vs Undertaker is like a Legend Vs Legend match.
Oh and i think that Edge is gonna make all worth it. (As always)
I think the biggest problem with this WM is that vince tried doing too much risky shit that fell through. He should have placed more emphasis on things he had control over (i.e. talent) and less emphasis on the legends, or trying to take into account what the fans were expecting. For example, if he was going to do a legend, why not do a legend that is still working for the company, like Hacksaw... I've seen shots with Hacksaw recently, very recently, where the guy is smart and can still work. Do hacksaw with like a less capable legend (steamboat, piper?) in his corner, or a legendary manager like DiBiase.
For the heel turn yeah, it should have been christian.. people have wanted it and sometimes vince, when you give them what they want they are grateful.
I disagree about HHH vs. Orton though. They've built it up nice and as a main even hopefully getting at least 20-30 minutes it should be good.
I also disagree about UT vs. Michaels. I have been one of the ones hoping UT retires undefeated at WM. I realize it's going to happen probably, but by at least putting Mr. Wrestlemania in there it adds some suspense to the match. If UT loses, I will be both shocked and a little sad, but totally blown away.
Triple Threat was bullshit. It should have just been Edge vs. Cena... yeah we've seen that a dozen times, but if they really wanted to make it interesting they could have had the winner take on the MITB winner right there and then. Either have Edge win and have Punk or Kofi beat him, or have cena win and turn Christian heel (or leave christian face and have him beat edge). So many better ways they could have gone with it. I suppose they still could, but with a triple threat you want to make sure your talent gets relevant face time to make the match seem not worthless.
I'll buy in. I've watched every single WM since 22 now... but yeah... unless Vince throws us some swerves here this is definitely pretty bland.. not sure if it's as bland as last years, but right up there.
edit - just saw that about the tag titles... frankly every match between the colons and miz/morr has been worthwhile. and considering there hasn't been a tag match at WM worth a damn since 22.
For the heel turn yeah, it should have been christian.. people have wanted it and sometimes vince, when you give them what they want they are grateful.
I disagree about HHH vs. Orton though. They've built it up nice and as a main even hopefully getting at least 20-30 minutes it should be good.
I also disagree about UT vs. Michaels. I have been one of the ones hoping UT retires undefeated at WM. I realize it's going to happen probably, but by at least putting Mr. Wrestlemania in there it adds some suspense to the match. If UT loses, I will be both shocked and a little sad, but totally blown away.
Triple Threat was bullshit. It should have just been Edge vs. Cena... yeah we've seen that a dozen times, but if they really wanted to make it interesting they could have had the winner take on the MITB winner right there and then. Either have Edge win and have Punk or Kofi beat him, or have cena win and turn Christian heel (or leave christian face and have him beat edge). So many better ways they could have gone with it. I suppose they still could, but with a triple threat you want to make sure your talent gets relevant face time to make the match seem not worthless.
I'll buy in. I've watched every single WM since 22 now... but yeah... unless Vince throws us some swerves here this is definitely pretty bland.. not sure if it's as bland as last years, but right up there.
edit - just saw that about the tag titles... frankly every match between the colons and miz/morr has been worthwhile. and considering there hasn't been a tag match at WM worth a damn since 22.
abstract alien
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Now that is fucking awesome and worthy of a spoiler tag :lolDMczaf said:
The Bookerman
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Outcast2004
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They kinda are.JdFoX187 said:
Remember the weeks of HBK mocking Hogan? It was great stuff.
A slice of the old cocky HBK.... that will instantly leave as soon as he loses at Mania.
Spider Silva
Banned
WWE = fucked. So much is made over ratings (which have been dropping BTW, since that two year high 4.1 over the Orton punting Stephanie RAW) but THIS is where the money is directly made. Ratings are a nice indicator of the product, getting heat from network execs, but it doesn't have much short term effect. The fact buyrates are doing horrible shows WWE is in some serious trouble and no one is liking the product.
And once again, Orton being pushed = ratings failure. How many times does it take for the company to realize this guy is just a monotone heel, who gets by on looks and athleticism?
abstract alien
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What happened with the whole jbl/shawn story line?
GoutPatrol
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DMczaf said:
AWESOME.
riskVSreward
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I can't believe Muta dropped the Triple Crown to Takayama. Who the fuck in All Japan is gonna put on a good match with him?
Only Kobashi could get a good match out of Takayama. Though I believe Takayama had a stroke earlier on through his career, no?
I'd mark pretty hard if Kobashi was triple crown champion again. =p
And for something more light hearted, from Maffew who does all the Botchamania's, is Macho Mania, BROTHER! YEAH! FREAK OUT!!
Macho Man 1995 Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL32vNR3T30&feature=channel_page
Macho Man 1995 Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C10TSX8RR-A&feature=related
Macho Man 1996
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad2TelzD324&feature=related
I'd mark pretty hard if Kobashi was triple crown champion again. =p
And for something more light hearted, from Maffew who does all the Botchamania's, is Macho Mania, BROTHER! YEAH! FREAK OUT!!
Macho Man 1995 Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL32vNR3T30&feature=channel_page
Macho Man 1995 Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C10TSX8RR-A&feature=related
Macho Man 1996
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad2TelzD324&feature=related
strikeselect
You like me, you really really like me!
It's kind of sad how much my interest in WWE and wrestling has dropped in the past year.
Nothing interests me, WWE is the same ol' shit and TNA just isn't there yet.
Can't believe we'll never experience something like the Monday Night Wars again :-(
Nothing interests me, WWE is the same ol' shit and TNA just isn't there yet.
Can't believe we'll never experience something like the Monday Night Wars again :-(
British Monsoon
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JavyOO7 said:
Pretty much, although his couple of matches against KENTA have always been impressive to me, and whenever the two appear in a 6-man or tag match against each other there's always a fair ammount of hate.
ZombieSupaStar
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The Bookerman said:
you know whats even sadder? thats the day after he crunched his back on the casket, the day after this was filmed is when he woke up frozen in his bed, and the beginning of the end.
Spider Silva said:
Do you ever get tired of being so angry and wrong?
Orton is one of WWE's best heels right now, it's more the fact that HHH is a shitty face and the McMahons are heat sponges.
That's not bringing up the fact that booking has been all over the goddamn place the past few weeks. Vince is so obsessed with not letting shit leak that he's making horrible decisions on the fly. The Jericho booking debacle, the triple threat and the way Orton/HHH is being handled is all a testament to that.
And the Tag title match is one of the matches I'm looking forward to the most. MizMo is a fantastic tag team, Morrison has improved leaps and bounds since altering his gimmick and Miz has honestly surprised me. BE JEALOUS
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I've never seen someone post almost exclusively about buyrates, fan perception, and ratings. Stop caring about this crap. The armchair analysts on the gaming side are bad enough, you don't want to be that guy regarding professional wrestling.Spider Silva said:
Dork Knight
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JavyOO7 said:
Man, I can't wait for the Macho Man DVD. Did y'all see they announced the matches for it? Here they are in case you haven't seen 'em:
Disc 1
* WWE Debut
Randy Savage vs. Rick McGraw
Prime Time Wrestling - July 9, 1985
* Savage's Choice for a New Manager
* Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat
Boston Garden - December 7, 1985
* One of the Most Hated Men in Wrestling
* WWE Championship Match
Randy Savage vs. Hulk Hogan
Madison Square Garden - December 30, 1985
* Setting His Sights on a Different Title
* WWE Intercontinental Heavyweight Championship
Randy Savage vs. Tito Santana
Boston Garden - February 8, 1986
* Old Generation Meets New Generation
* WWE Intercontinental Championship Match
Randy Savage vs. Bruno Sammartino
Boston Garden - January 3, 1987
* The Greatest Match in WrestleMania History
* WWE Intercontinental Championship Match
* Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat
WrestleMania III - March 29, 1987
* Attempt to Regain the Intercontinental Championship
* Randy Savage vs. Honky Tonk Man
The Main Event - February 5, 1988
* The Road to the WWE Title
* WWE Championship Tournament Final
Randy Savage vs. Ted DiBiase
WrestleMania IV - March 27, 1988
* The Return Bout
* Steel Cage Match for the WWE Championship
Randy Savage vs. Ted DiBiase
Madison Square Garden - June 25, 1988
* * Special Features
* A Match Made in Heaven
The Wedding of Randy "Macho Man" Savage and Elizabeth
SummerSlam - August 26, 1991
Disc 2
* Megapowers Unite
* Randy Savage & Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant & Ted DiBiase
SummerSlam - August 29, 1988
* Year Long Reign
* WWE Championship Match
Randy Savage vs. Hulk Hogan
WrestleMania V - April 2, 1989
* Macho King & Queen Sherri
* WWE Championship Match
Randy Savage vs. Hulk Hogan
The Main Event - March 22, 1990
* Intergender Mayhem
Randy Savage / Sherri vs. Dusty Rhodes / Sapphire
WrestleMania VI - April 1, 1990
* Career on the Line
* Retirement Match
Randy Savage vs. Ultimate Warrior
WrestleMania VII - March 24, 1991
* Love Bites
* Randy Savage vs. Jake Roberts
This Tuesday in Texas - December 3, 1991
* Flasely Accused
* WWE Championship Match
Randy Savage vs. Ric Flair
WrestleMania VIII - April 5, 1992
* * Special Features
* Elizabeth's Debut
Championship Wrestling - July 30, 1985
* The Coronation of the Macho King
Superstars - September 30, 1989
Disc 3
* Back On Top
WWE Championship Match
Randy Savage vs. Shawn Michaels
European Rampage - April 19, 1992
* Popularity on the Rise
Randy Savage / Bret Hart vs. Ric Flair / Shawn Michaels
Worcester, MA - July 22, 1992
* Behind the Mic
WWE Championship Match
Randy Savage vs. Yokozuna
RAW - February 28, 1994
* A Change of Scenery
Lifeguard Match
Randy Savage vs. Ric Flair
Bash at the Beach - July 16, 1995
* Rivalry Renewed
WCW Championship Match
Randy Savage vs. Ric Flair
Nitro - January 22, 1996
* The Rise of nWo
Falls Count Anywhere Match
Randy Savage vs. Diamond Dallas Page
Great American Bash - June 15, 1997
* Team Madness
WCW Championship Match
Randy Savage & Sid Vicious vs. Kevin Nash & Sting
Bash at the Beach - July 11, 1999
* * Special Features
* Nothing But Garbage
Prime Time Wrestling - October 29, 1985
*
Yesterday's Newspaper
Prime Time Wrestling - December 3, 1985
* A Champion's Prerogative
All Star Wrestling - March 1, 1986
* The Most Important Man in the World
Prime Time Wrestling - April 21, 1986
* Talkin' About History
Prime Time Wrestling - May 5, 1986
* Free Word Association
Tuesday Night Titans - July 2, 1986
* Cuppa' Coffee
Prime Time Wrestling - May 11, 1987
* The Cream of the Crop
Prime Time Wrestling - May 11, 1987
* The Beat Goes On
Superstars - September 19, 1987
* Bow To The Macho King
Madison Square Garden - November 25, 1989
* Macho King Rules The Peasants
Saturday Night's Main Event - January 27, 1990
* You Don't Say No To The Macho King
Madison Square Garden - January 21, 1991
* A Little Bit Insane
Saturday Night's Main Event - February 8, 1992
* Whatever It Takes
Superstars - June 13, 1992
* The Ultimate Maniacs
Superstars - October 24, 1992
* One Cool Dude
Monday Nitro - June 17, 1996
* nWo Madness
Monday Nitro - April 28, 1997
Outcast2004
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I absolutely hate Joe's new look, but I love the fact he's stopped being a bitch and just plain beating the shit out of people....
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