Tony Perkins is a slimeball, but he's also had a failed political career. It's pretty easy to pick apart any of his talking points with even a small iota of knowledge on the issue at hand. And he knows he's lost from the moment that interview starts. Also, he'll never be an elected official again, so that's nice.
Buzzfeed gives a preview of the arguments
There's a lot of legalese in there, but it's good stuff.
Buzzfeed gives a preview of the arguments
WASHINGTON On Tuesday, the Supreme Court will hear two-and-a-half hours of arguments about two questions. Theyre simple and direct:
1. Does the U.S. Constitution require states to license a marriage between two people of the same sex?
2. Does the U.S. Constitution require states to recognize the marriage between two people of the same sex when their marriage was lawfully licensed and performed in other states?
Its pretty straight-forward. And yet: More than 150 briefs have been filed with the justices, including the ones from the parties to the cases state officials from Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, or Tennessee and people challenging marriage or marriage recognition bans in each of those states.
But most of the briefs are amicus curiae, or friend of the court, briefs arguments made by people and groups not directly involved in the case but have an interest in the outcome and believe they have information of value or a viewpoint of interest to the court on the issues. There were 78 amicus briefs filed in support of the same-sex couples including one filed by the Obama administration. And 67 amicus briefs were filed in support of the states including one by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.
The parties are raising challenges to the ban under two constitutional provisions of the Fourteenth Amendment: equal protection and fundamental rights protections.
When the Supreme Court hears cases about the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution, the justices generally examine laws under the rational basis standard. Basically, for a law to be upheld, the government must show that the law is rationally related to a legitimate state interest. This is a relatively simple question is there a legitimate reason for the law? and is an easier, lower standard to meet.
In other words: The most basic question to be argued at the Supreme Court on Tuesday is whether the marriage and marriage recognition bans are, in effect, arbitrary.
In these cases, here are the reasons and goals that the states have put forth as legitimate reasons to limit marriage and marriage recognition to opposite-sex couples:
1. The democratic process needs to be respected (voters put the marriage ban in place)
2. Federalism (the U.S. government should respect the states decisions in the area of family law)
3. Responsible procreation (the government should ensure that the people who can accidentally procreate i.e. not same-sex couples will be encouraged to have stable relationships)
4. Biology, because same-sex couples cant procreate naturally (Biology alone, therefore, provides a rational explanation for not expanding marriage to add same-sex couples, Tennessee officials argue)
5. Promoting households with a mother and a father (Michigan officials argue changing the legal definition of marriage could have a long-term consequence of [undermining marriage] in the long term as an institution for linking parents to their biological children.)
6. Promoting higher birth rates (the ensuring the future of the human race argument only comes directly from Kentucky, among the sates)
7. Caution (states should be able to see what the effect of letting same-sex couples marry is before acting)
And while the plaintiffs argue that the marriage bans are unconstitutional under rational basis in other words, that those are not legitimate government objectives or that they are not rationally related to the bans the plaintiffs also believe that proving there is a rational basis for the bans shouldnt be enough.
There's a lot of legalese in there, but it's good stuff.