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Prototype-03

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Ferrio said:
I do HCF's then. I have to do it when using Dorm's red/blue powerup after blocking, else I'll get the stupid teleport.
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LOL!! THIS HAPPENS TO ME ALL THE TIME.

edit: I think it's even more frustrating because it works about 95% of the time offline.
 
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Karsticles

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I can't block because the game doesn't register my inputs on time. I can't even do jump and block because when I jump forward and press back right away, it doesn't register it and I get hit by a projectile. So I get outzoned and can't get in because of lag.
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I know that one on a personal level...

I do HCF's then. I have to do it when using Dorm's red/blue powerup after blocking, else I'll get the stupid teleport.
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1) Opponent throws a bunch of projectiles.
2) Hold back for a moment out of instinct.
3) Realize you have 3D0C stored.
4) qcb.H for the kill.
5) Teleport in top of your opponent and get hit by the projectile.
6) @$!%

I miss a lot of OTG Purifications online too, and it makes me want to scream. This situation is far, far too common:
1) Corner combo someone.
2) OTG Purification comes out as a Dark Hole, or just a c.L.
3) Chaotic Flame because my muscles haven't been informed by my brain that Purification failed yet.
4) Opponent rolls behind me during Chaotic Flame.
5) @$!%

Good to know it's not necessarily me in all these instances...
 
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ReiGun

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shaowebb said:
Went through and watched your vid. You have some problems but I think I can help. I haven't put in the practice myself to be great but I'm past this point by now.

Your biggest problems seem to be this.

  1. You're not pushblocking enough
  2. you only have combos with x-23
  3. you're not using assists properly

You have a pretty good combo with X-23 but it seems like you can only land it from an overhead or from a clean basic shot on the ground into the combo. This is why your jumping around a lot with X-23 and thats fine, but your not setting it up properly. I know what your doing with that repulsor blast assist is trying to get them to guard long enough to zip behind them on the ground and eat them with the combo, but its over too quickly and you're staying too far out.

Either get in there or use a different assist to set that up. Doom hidden missile could be fun because they may not catch it and when you see it coming you could come in with ankle slice or go behind into your rushdown combo. I just like hidden missile but honestly there are lots of characters to set this up with. Tatsus from Akuma or Ryu, Charging Star from cap, Berzerker Barrage from wolverine. It's all good if all you need is something to setup a block. Just get in there though. Full screen attempts at go behind usually don't make it.

Also I mentioned rushdown. Your Chunli assist is meant to keep pressure on people to corner them but I just see it thrown at random like your trying to get a free hit in to set your combo. It's good if it happens but likely shes just gonna start getting bodied, ignored by people or hit with hypers. With that assist you need to rushdown or throw a ton of stuff at them like people do with storm afterwards. Doesn't matter if they block because you keep summoning her near the end of your combo attempt to keep the damage constant and I dont think they can pushblock her off. THIS is when you overhead, go behind or ankle slice.

Also, learn some combos with Chun. Anything with a launch sets up for a ton because her airdash keeps her combos flying around in the sky for awhile. Great character and I encourage keeping her with X-23 so long as you use the two together properly.

Finally Ironman. Don't back off too far with him. He's a midscreen character and his ability to suck people into his combos that are jumping is great. Not only that but his smart bombs are great for setups if you know how to use them. It seems like you just use Ironman for keep away beaming though and thats not meant for him. His beam is just not good enough because it's easily punishable and takes too long to finish. You may wanna try Deadpool for this since his happy trigger is aimable, can be done from air, is fast, and you can use pineapple surprise or teleport to cover his escape if they close the gap. If you like Ironman it's fine. Hes a beast if you can use him, but learn to fly and keep out of the corner and study his combos. I see you do nothing but block with him. He is also who you pushblock the least with so your eating chips.

Also don't be afraid to just go for chip more if all your doing is keep away with someone. Force em to make the decision to jump in or teleport or eat chips. Have a plan for how they could approach you too. This is why I feel Deadpool may fit you better even if his damage aint as good. He just fits what you were trying to do and has options to escape so long as it's not a teleport coming at him during happy trigger. To be honest Magneto's Disruptor may just be the best in the game for this kind of stuff and he is a solid character, who is definitely gonna be better than Deadpool since deadpool also takes awhile with happy trigger. HE can't aim his disruptor though but that doesn't seem to be a big thing for you given your using repulsor right now.

Have fun man. Hope this helps.
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Thanks a lot man. I posted earlier in the thread about how I only seem to be able to do combos in training mode, so I guess I just have to try harder. I actually play Deadpool, but I never could figure out how to use him in team and normally end up just sticking him in any old random team. (There's actually a vid of me using him with Chun and Iron Man and another with Chun and Dormammu somewhere in that playlist). Do you think he'd fit with Chun and X-23 better than Iron Man? I do wanna stick with Iron Man, but if I can have DP as another option, that'd be cool.

Here's a vid of my alt team. Any tips you can offer here?
 
hitsugi

hitsugi

Member
haunts said:
Yeah I personally cant even do basic fly combos with Magneto online so I typically stay away from it. Ive been playing some of my weaker characters online but over all seems detrimental to my overall game.
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Magneto floats online.. I don't know why I ever bother going for the rom but the ghetto fly M H reps usually work... All fierces, however, do not.

Kind of weird that 1 frame links with SSF4 online are easier than just about anything I attempt with marvel online. That goes for Live, too.
 
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Chavelo

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Karsticles said:
I know that one on a personal level...


1) Opponent throws a bunch of projectiles.
2) Hold back for a moment out of instinct.
3) Realize you have 3D0C stored.
4) qcb.H for the kill.
5) Teleport in top of your opponent and get hit by the projectile.
6) @$!%

I miss a lot of OTG Purifications online too, and it makes me want to scream. This situation is far, far too common:
1) Corner combo someone.
2) OTG Purification comes out as a Dark Hole, or just a c.L.
3) Chaotic Flame because my muscles haven't been informed by my brain that Purification failed yet.
4) Opponent rolls behind me during Chaotic Flame.
5) @$!%

Good to know it's not necessarily me in all these instances...
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Hahaha! Who does that? I mean... seriously? TOO FUNNY, GUYS. AMIRITE? GUYS?

/sniff

Isn't he a scrub?

/tear

Guys?

/cries
/breaks down after the 100th botched Dorm corner combo
 
shaowebb

shaowebb

Member
ReiGun said:
Thanks a lot man. I posted earlier in the thread about how I only seem to be able to do combos in training mode, so I guess I just have to try harder. I actually play Deadpool, but I never could figure out how to use him in team and normally end up just sticking him in any old random team. (There's actually a vid of me using him with Chun and Iron Man and another with Chun and Dormammu somewhere in that playlist). Do you think he'd fit with Chun and X-23 better than Iron Man? I do wanna stick with Iron Man, but if I can have DP as another option, that'd be cool.

Here's a vid of my alt team. Any tips you can offer here?
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Hmm...well from what I'm seeing here youre problems are
  1. again not pushblocking
  2. You're not finishing your combos
  3. You need more practice on morrigan
  4. you still think Dark Phoenix equals a free win

That last one is pretty crucial too. You mainly didn't finish your combos when you had Phoenix out and it's obvious from throwing her on anchor with Morrigan's dark harmonizer that your main goal was to build meter and use her dark phoenix. And though you could start her combos you never really set them up, you just sort of got a hit in and kept them going through some bread n butter basics. There are a lot of Phoenix combo vids out right now and I suggest you watch them and rewatch them to figure out just what moves they are doing and how they are setting them up.

Back on track, though. Dark Phoenix does not = a win and transforming into Dark Phoenix is punishable now with a ton of characters...as you found out. You nearly died and lucked into winning before your health counted down. They full screen hypered you on that transformation and you're still made of glass even with all that power she has. If you can tag in phoenix after getting them to spend there meter thats a good time to play because even if they nail her they likely wont be able to capitolize on a hyper when you transform. Also, I see a lot of Dark Phoenix players not using her so much for comeback factor but as insurance.

In other words they get her out and fight till she transforms before she's the last one left. This way they tag her out, she heals, you build meter for her healing spheres and hypers and she has HUGE assists.

Phoenix is great on her own btw and you showed that you were starting to see that, but sitting in the sky orbing will likely get you killed if you tried that again on any higher level players. Homing orbs are attractive but her pressure offense and traps are far better than her orbs since they combo. The orbs are better used to bounce them up a bit higher during a corner combo than for creating a wall to teleport behind. Also her teleports are quick you should use them a lot more and with traps.

Mainly I see a lot of potential in your phoenix and your Chun li is good for a start, but again your dropping combos. She can go WAY further on those combos. And stop trying to launch after every thousand kick. It only works if you were deep and whiffing that launch is begging to get combo-ed. I suspect a little mash happened when you did some of those but remember those kicks push you out. During them see if you can't summon phoenix assist since it should be safe.

As for Morrigan I'm sad to say that I really don't know how to play her. You should PM sixfortyfive for Morrigan info. He destroyed me pretty good with her and knows a lot about her. All I know for certain is that you didn't know how to setup combos for her or anyone using assists on that team and it's kinda rough to assist heavy when one assist is dark harmonizer and another is extremely vulnerable to getting KOed by hypers.

Phoenix is good and your Chun aint bad but instead of using a character entirely for meter build assists with them you should probably look at cast that build meter really well just by fighting that you're better with. If you develop a Morrigan by all means use her. She can be a game winner, but if you don't have one don't force it for one move.
Chris Redfield is great for being a battery and he can use a lot of projectiles (which I know you like) also his Colt Python is sweet in this game. I'd suggest trying him out for building meter and for also covering your combo setups to buy you range and to give you a nice opportunity to overhead with Chun or teleport in with Phoenix.

Good luck man. Practice that pushblock, and spend some time testing different ways to go into your combos from different areas of the screen. Try assist coverage, teleports, and hiding behind projectiles. Anything you can think of. Also try mixing up high and crouching attacks during combos. Often you can get them to block up high then hit a crouching attack that chains in that combo to finally get them to start taking damage instead of chip. Spencer is good for this, but he's pretty advanced.
 
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QisTopTier

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Wait I don't get it, how is Iron Man super hard to use with a shitty launcher? He's easy as fuck outside the end extension of his fly unfly combo. Not to mention he is fast as fuck with a godly triangle jump.

Kadey said:
Anybody want the full OST.
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ummm >.>
 
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dankir

Member
Well I just managed to 1000 this game. Changed the Rank custom search to English and any region, any rank.

Fought a guy with 2500 wins, Master Lord and got Combat specialist and that get all the achievements, achievement.

Surprisingly it wasn't quick lol Dude had the nastiest Wesker I've seen. Kept my character juggled from corner to corner. That is the end of ranked for me :)

Thank god, time to practice with Spencer now.
 
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Dirtbag

Member
I really need to learn how to play with some more characters

Right now I've got:

Morrigan - my best character
Spencer - can't land OTG's though
Skrull - easy big damage with meter
x-23 - I'm past button mashing with her, though I don't see much more potential in her then I've already tapped. Wish she had an air dash

Next up I'm thinking of learning either
Trish, Capt. America, or Dom

Dom is probably the hardest for me to learn since my play style is more rushdown.

Any suggestions?
 
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ApolloJoh

Member
dankir said:
Well I just managed to 1000 this game. Changed the Rank custom search to English and any region, any rank.

Fought a guy with 2500 wins, Master Lord and got Combat specialist and that get all the achievements, achievement.

Surprisingly it wasn't quick lol Dude had the nastiest Wesker I've seen. Kept my character juggled from corner to corner. That is the end of ranked for me :)

Thank god, time to practice with Spencer now.
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I think I played him a few days ago a couple times. He used Wesker/Dante/Sent right?

His Wesker was crazy indeed, haha.

I've taken a break from ranked too especially since I've been meeting better people in Player Matches. Usually doing like 30+ matches.
 
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Prototype-03

Member
ApolloJoh said:
I think I played him a few days ago a couple times. He used Wesker/Dante/Sent right?

His Wesker was crazy indeed, haha.

I've taken a break from ranked too especially since I've been meeting better people in Player Matches. Usually doing like 30+ matches.
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We should get some matches in again sometime soon. Although I'm in the middle of changing my team so I went from somewhat decent to pretty terrible in a matter of a week.

edit: Also your furry avatar. wtf.
 
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dankir

Member
ApolloJoh said:
I think I played him a few days ago a couple times. He used Wesker/Dante/Sent right?

His Wesker was crazy indeed, haha.

I've taken a break from ranked too especially since I've been meeting better people in Player Matches. Usually doing like 30+ matches.
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Nope it was Wesker, Ryu, Zero. Had Wesker down to a pixel of health but he already taken out two my guys.

Just was using Ryu and Zero for OTG combos. Literally one corner to other corner.

Doomsday or something?
 
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ReiGun

Member
shaowebb said:
Hmm...well from what I'm seeing here youre problems are
  1. again not pushblocking
  2. You're not finishing your combos
  3. You need more practice on morrigan
  4. you still think Dark Phoenix equals a free win

That last one is pretty crucial too. You mainly didn't finish your combos when you had Phoenix out and it's obvious from throwing her on anchor with Morrigan's dark harmonizer that your main goal was to build meter and use her dark phoenix. And though you could start her combos you never really set them up, you just sort of got a hit in and kept them going through some bread n butter basics. There are a lot of Phoenix combo vids out right now and I suggest you watch them and rewatch them to figure out just what moves they are doing and how they are setting them up.

Back on track, though. Dark Phoenix does not = a win and transforming into Dark Phoenix is punishable now with a ton of characters...as you found out. You nearly died and lucked into winning before your health counted down. They full screen hypered you on that transformation and you're still made of glass even with all that power she has. If you can tag in phoenix after getting them to spend there meter thats a good time to play because even if they nail her they likely wont be able to capitolize on a hyper when you transform. Also, I see a lot of Dark Phoenix players not using her so much for comeback factor but as insurance.

In other words they get her out and fight till she transforms before she's the last one left. This way they tag her out, she heals, you build meter for her healing spheres and hypers and she has HUGE assists.

Phoenix is great on her own btw and you showed that you were starting to see that, but sitting in the sky orbing will likely get you killed if you tried that again on any higher level players. Homing orbs are attractive but her pressure offense and traps are far better than her orbs since they combo. The orbs are better used to bounce them up a bit higher during a corner combo than for creating a wall to teleport behind. Also her teleports are quick you should use them a lot more and with traps.

Mainly I see a lot of potential in your phoenix and your Chun li is good for a start, but again your dropping combos. She can go WAY further on those combos. And stop trying to launch after every thousand kick. It only works if you were deep and whiffing that launch is begging to get combo-ed. I suspect a little mash happened when you did some of those but remember those kicks push you out. During them see if you can't summon phoenix assist since it should be safe.

As for Morrigan I'm sad to say that I really don't know how to play her. You should PM sixfortyfive for Morrigan info. He destroyed me pretty good with her and knows a lot about her. All I know for certain is that you didn't know how to setup combos for her or anyone using assists on that team and it's kinda rough to assist heavy when one assist is dark harmonizer and another is extremely vulnerable to getting KOed by hypers.

Phoenix is good and your Chun aint bad but instead of using a character entirely for meter build assists with them you should probably look at cast that build meter really well just by fighting that you're better with. If you develop a Morrigan by all means use her. She can be a game winner, but if you don't have one don't force it for one move.
Chris Redfield is great for being a battery and he can use a lot of projectiles (which I know you like) also his Colt Python is sweet in this game. I'd suggest trying him out for building meter and for also covering your combo setups to buy you range and to give you a nice opportunity to overhead with Chun or teleport in with Phoenix.

Good luck man. Practice that pushblock, and spend some time testing different ways to go into your combos from different areas of the screen. Try assist coverage, teleports, and hiding behind projectiles. Anything you can think of. Also try mixing up high and crouching attacks during combos. Often you can get them to block up high then hit a crouching attack that chains in that combo to finally get them to start taking damage instead of chip. Spencer is good for this, but he's pretty advanced.
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Again, thanks. I can't recall if I tried to tag D. Phoenix out or not, because normally I do. Either way, you're right. One error= half my life gone. lol I probably will drop Morrigan since I was only using her for that assist and Astral Vision, but had no interest in learning her otherwise.
 
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ApolloJoh

Member
Prototype-03 said:
We should get some matches in again sometime soon. Although I'm in the middle of changing my team so I went from somewhat decent to pretty terrible in a matter of a week.

edit: Also your furry avatar. wtf.
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Gonna be playing some Hard Corps with a friend tonight (right now lol) but yeah, if we're done at a reasonable time and you're still on, we'll play.

And yeah not into furries but I kinda like this Felicia art, lol.
 
shaowebb

shaowebb

Member
ReiGun said:
Duly noted. I'm gonna miss those free wins, though. :p lmao
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They didn't look to free there in that video. Remember what I said...dark phoenix transformation is punishable.

Put up vids of your progress. I wanna watch this.
 
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ReiGun

Member
shaowebb said:
They didn't look to free there in that video. Remember what I said...dark phoenix transformation is punishable.

Put up vids of your progress. I wanna watch this.
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I was just kidding. You wound me. :( lol

And sure. I'll keep uploading vids and what not. I really enjoy getting advice.
 
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Killa Sasa

Member
Threi said:
good games sasa, some of those matches were pretty epic.

gotta do it again sometime in the future
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Yeah good games, I dig that Spencer and Doom. Your Spencer is pretty different from my local one here - both of ya are pretty decent with him as far as I'm concerned.

I wish I knew how to play this game better though, haha. My X-23 is shameful and my Spider-Man loses a decent amount of oomph without Iron Man's Unibeam.
 
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Incendiary

Banned
striKeVillain! said:
God, Haggar might be the most fun character to play in the game. When that Heavy Pipe hits, IT HITS!
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I was playing my friend a few weeks ago and he didn't know anything about the game and doesn't play fighters often, so I chose random characters to make it more fun for us. When I was playing Haggar I was just messing around and ended up comboing into a pipe move. My friend was like "Holy shit! I know who Haggar is, but I didn't expect the pipe! I DIDN'T EXPECT THE FUCKING PIPE!"

So remember kids, nobody expects the pipe.
 
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QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
Incendiary said:
I was playing my friend a few weeks ago and he didn't know anything about the game and doesn't play fighters often, so I chose random characters to make it more fun for us. When I was playing Haggar I was just messing around and ended up comboing into a pipe move. My friend was like "Holy shit! I know who Haggar is, but I didn't expect the pipe! I DIDN'T EXPECT THE FUCKING PIPE!"

So remember kids, nobody expects the pipe.
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Everyone expects the pipe that's all most people do with him LOL
 
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Lost Fragment

Obsessed with 4chan
So Tron's king servbot hyper is pretty awesome. If you XFC as soon as she says "king," the whole thing still comes out, so there's a lot of stuff you can punish with it if you're willing to burn xfactor. For example, you can punish HSF and do heavy drill after the drones pass and combo into lunch time. If you don't XFC, you can still throw it out if you're willing to trade with whatever is gonna hit you and sometimes you're still in a position where you can extend the combo.

Probably won't work too well in high level play because it doesn't work against really fast hypers like Dormammu's flame (does work against yoga catastrophe, though) or Taskmaster's arrows, and tournament players that aren't pot monsters aren't going to be throwing out too many random, unsafe hypers and stuff, but I've punished so much stuff with king servbot in the past few days that it's kind of ridiculous.
 
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Sblargh

Banned
lol
Me on my first day against an experienced player:
Press button -> eat a combo that seems to last half an hour.
Repeat for 10 matches.
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OTG stuff pisses me off a bit, btw. It lacks fighting game etiquette.
If my body slammed the ground and bumped back up like a rubber ball, that's fair game, but have manners and don't hit a dude glued to the floor.
 
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Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
Update 1.02 (20 something Mbs) up for grabs.
Still no Vs CPU mode.
 
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Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
SolarPowered said:
Training mode with normal life works well enough. A patch that smooths the online experience would be more appreciated.
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But its such a chore to set up.
 
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TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Fersis said:
Update 1.02 (20 something Mbs) up for grabs.
Still no Vs CPU mode.
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Fuck that. Still no:

-CPU vs CPU mode
-Replays
-SPECTATOR SO 8-PLAYER LOBBIES ARE ACTUALLY USEFUL INSTEAD OF USELESS.

Last two being the most important.
 
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Threi

notag
I have to say...Ammy gets away with a LOT of stuff due to her small size. Sure her combos are a bit difficult but as time is going on I'm actually starting to respect Sentinel players more, and respecting Ammy players less.
 
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Karsticles

Member
Fuck that. Still no:

-CPU vs CPU mode
-Replays
-SPECTATOR SO 8-PLAYER LOBBIES ARE ACTUALLY USEFUL INSTEAD OF USELESS.

Last two being the most important.
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I honestly hope Capcom never wastes a dime on implementing AI vs. AI fights.

Anyway, think of it this way: the game was originally slated for release in mid-March to early April, but Capcom corporate pushed the release date up to February 15. As a result, they clearly weren't able to finish and implement everything they wanted to. Now, in mid-March, we are finally getting the rest of the game, and we are entering the phase where we might get content beyond the full game. In the meantime, we have been able to enjoy the game early.

I have to say...Ammy gets away with a LOT of stuff due to her small size. Sure her combos are a bit difficult but as time is going on I'm actually starting to respect Sentinel players more, and respecting Ammy players less.
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It irritates me to no end that so many cast members can duck under Dormammu's c.M. It's his only method for hit confirmation against low characters!
 
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Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
TheSeks said:
Fuck that. Still no:

-CPU vs CPU mode
-Replays
-SPECTATOR SO 8-PLAYER LOBBIES ARE ACTUALLY USEFUL INSTEAD OF USELESS.

Last two being the most important.
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Didnt the producer said that spectator mode is not possible due bandwith issues?
Why do you want a Cpu Vs Cpu mode?

From SRK said:
It seems it has some balance changes, the only change i know so far is that Sent has only around 900,000 life now, I wonder what else was changed.
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Sent got nerfed. :0
 
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vg260

Member
Fersis said:
Didnt the producer said that spectator mode is not possible due bandwith issues?
Why do you want a Cpu Vs Cpu mode?


Sent got nerfed. :0
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Sentinel Health nerf? Yes! This is exactly the quick 'n' dirty nerf I was asking for. Give Sentinel spammers a little something to keep them in check. Something had to give and this seemed the easiest, most reasonable tweak method for now. This makes things a little more fair for now. Let's see how it goes. If it doesn't work, they just up it later. Simple value change in-game. Core gameplay stays the same, so no reason for Sent users to complain. They were spoiled before.
 
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