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Mass Effect 3 |OT| Space Jesus Returns (tag all spoilers)
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MrTroubleMaker
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I'm reading them too. This is a great idea by BioWare. Very cool and immersive. I hope that throughout the next couple months events from this feed translate over into the MP Co-Op somehow, where users must log in and help repel another invasion or attack with their characters.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
We're now 100 pages in and way too many spoilers posted this morning. Time hit the eject button. See you folks on the other side.
MrTroubleMaker
Member
timed missions 
Karak
Member
I think it will get cleared up here very soon on how its done. For 3 VERY specific missions I know for a fact that they were not timed like the ME2 Omega missions. Unless Bioware was counting the number of doors I passed through. Because it failed without me going offplanet or doing other missions. However, maybe that was a bug? Or maybe it counts something else. Personally I think its a small thing that seems like it could be larger due to the randomness of it. Once its explained I bet it will be less of an issue. And since people have already been warned to keep an eye on it, it will be easier anyway.
Being one of the first ones to play it and have it happen was VERY confusing that's why I posted about it to warn people to make sure to handle them when they could so they didn't have the problems I did.
I think the missions make sense being timed in some way as the war is coming. However, then there are other scenes and so forth where you are dallying around and playing grab-ass basically. It goes from pushing you to do things then...nothing to do at random times
Sort of weird but not overly horrible yet.Psychoward
Banned
I get what they were going for, but I don't like it.
shinobi602
Member
Yes that's the case.
ScreenSplitter
Member
Buncha babies whinin' about a few timed side quests
Felix Lighter
Member
I guess I don't feel the need to complete all of the sidequests in a single playthrough this time around, like I did in the previous games, since the outcomes aren't going to be carrying over to another game. I'll hold my judgement on the timed sidequest thing until I get a chance to see it for myself.
Castor Krieg
Banned
Why so much hate for timed missions? The game is a fucking action RPG already, now they pushed it more towards ACTION. Stop whinning and, as many raid leaders say, FOCUS!
That's probably what Bioware wants us to think, but if they never actually show a consequence for failing a timed quest then all they're doing is adding unnecessary frustration to the player.
I mean the Collectors are going around in ME2 abducting human colonists but for the majority of the game they had no problem letting us wander around while it was happening. They had a couple forced main story missions after getting a certain number of party members, but what were the collectors doing the rest of the time? Getting a bite to eat?
StevePharma
Member
thanks
.wav
People on the BW-forum were bitching that it wasn't MP3.
I wanted to punch them through my monitor.
Karak
Member
Not the people involved with the quests no. At least not with any I have. They are still standing around. The quest just fails. For example a quest involving a Diplomats son failed and the diplomat just continues to stand there. The quest is just failed due to time limit or bug.
But the overall world and universe is under attack so the pressing time issue makes sense. I think this game has so much going on that all of us are going to have some really different ways of going through it and thus different problems or situations that others won't. Who knows if thats a kudo or if it results in an uneven experience.
One thing I have to say. Ashley is fucking hot now.
EmCeeGramr
Member
shepard dies and then isn't dead and then is a terrorist but not really
you fight space bugs and meet people then fight more space bugs and meet more people
then you solve their daddy/trust issues (the peoples' not the space bugs)
then you fight a WHOLE LOT of space bugs and then the third boss from contra 3
Dead Rising tells you extremely explicitly when you're going to fail a mission due to time. That is the the correct way to do it.Buncha babies whinin' about a few timed side quests
thetrin
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Buncha babies whinin' about a few timed side quests
Funnily enough, timed missions are the reason I think Dead Rising is an awful game.
Go back to being a terrible sales expert in Vita threads.
So I'm the only person that kind of likes the idea of timed missions/not being able to play both sides? Granted, if people are unsure about whether or not a mission is timed or not, that's awful design.
I'm a completist, but the ME series has been all about multiple playthroughs since the start.
I'm a completist, but the ME series has been all about multiple playthroughs since the start.
I think timed side quests are:
1. Relevant in ME3 because of the surrounding circumstances in the game.
2. Gives a sense of urgency
3. A sense of immersion based on choices having permanent consequences
4. A way for Bioware to make people replay the campaign. (I never played any ME1 game more than once. ME3 is looking to be the exception)
1. Relevant in ME3 because of the surrounding circumstances in the game.
2. Gives a sense of urgency
3. A sense of immersion based on choices having permanent consequences
4. A way for Bioware to make people replay the campaign. (I never played any ME1 game more than once. ME3 is looking to be the exception)
Yup I can't stand those games. They would be much more fun if you could just dick around finding all sorts of cool things to use against the zombies. Having a gun to my head, so to speak, for the whole game wasn't very fun.
If the reason that some fetch quests are timed are because you walked near a woman on the citadel begging a soldier to save his dying husband and you gotta run fast to the emergency to use medigel on him... yeah sure, guess it make sense. Its the only thing that make sense about timed sidequests. Anything else, i wont understand such decision.
LumpOfCole
Member
Are we talking timed missions as in Arrival's timed sections? Because they were laughably easy to beat on standard difficulties.
Castor Krieg
Banned
I'm anxiously awaiting your input in Vita threads. Preferably longer than one sentence.
As for timed missions - the game is already action RPG. You cannot play it turn-based. Guess what, you need to react quickly. I'm sure time limits they put are going to be very generous. This is a non-issue, GAF being GAF again.
Yeah and there wasn't anything else to do in Arrival. I'm not happy about being rushed to complete quests when I may want to wander around the hub world taking everything in. I mean just how much of the RPG side does Bioware want to keep taking away?
It would be a non issue if the game actually told you, which I'm hearing it doesn't.
I don't believe time limits have anything to do with whether or not it is an rpg. The term for lack of rpg seems to be thrown around for everything somebody does not like about a game.
StevePharma
Member
The disparity between the quest to save the world and the trivial quest to help some random dude has always been prevalent in RPGs. People don't seem to care about the immersion breaking. Timing out quests seems a bit much. Time isn't passing when you travel in any of the ME-games, only when the dev wants you, and WHEN it wants you, they have a good reasons because your crew is captured and probably dying.
Then again, I don't care that much but the way it seems to be designed is unnecessary and will make me probably play the game a little differently than I intended.
Then again, I don't care that much but the way it seems to be designed is unnecessary and will make me probably play the game a little differently than I intended.
I'm just going to take my time -- I'm not going to let stupid design choices affect the way I play the game.
I do the exact same thing. I have OCD at some points in the game and sometimes I want to clear my list of all side-quests before advancing.
Being rushed when you finally get to an exploration section feels like they want me to skip through the RPG parts and get back to action.
She looks like a fucking goblin. Original Ashley looked better.
Karak
Member
I am 100% ok with them if I understand the timing or even a hint about it. I am reserving my own judgment until I find out why I was randomly failing them.
But you will get locked out of content? Isn't that a bigger issue?
you're an awful person.
shinobi602
Member
I was actually saying that based off what some other GAFers here were saying from their playtime so far. Like 20-30 pages back lol.
TangoAlphaLima
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All Male Sheps That Saved Kaidan: "Shit."
Karak
Member
Holy ballz! Really you think so? I always thought she looked like Corky from Life Goes On in the first one
yodathesoda
Member
So if I understand correctly the jumping off point of ME3 is that the Reapers have invaded and are systemically fucking shit up all over the place. Right?
Therefore, if I'm tasked with missions that include getting to a location and helping out before the shit hits the fan and Reapers arrive (timed missions), I'm OK with that.
Because it makes sense in context of the story.
Therefore, if I'm tasked with missions that include getting to a location and helping out before the shit hits the fan and Reapers arrive (timed missions), I'm OK with that.
Because it makes sense in context of the story.