Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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Photolysis said:
To be fair to the guy, it is a pretty good imitation as far as mimicry goes. Plus he has the additional challenge of trying to emulate a voice someone else has created, rather than developing it himself.
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Those were two separate thoughts, although I see how I could have made it confusing with my paragraphs.

Basically, my prior example was when the same voice actor couldn't get the character right.

I then gave Mordin credit for being about 85% right, so close that I thought it was just that, the same actor who couldn't recapture the magic.


Rufus said:
You see one of the characters from Overlord during the Grissom Academy mission, and the other is with the Cerberus defectors, yeah. Nothing major, just catching up.
Kasumi's mission is neat, I suppose, but nothing mind-blowing. You get to attend a cocktail party, fancy dress and everything, but there isn't anything that stands out to me at least. Not that I remember. I never started a new game to bring her along, so she might have some good lines during the story mission.
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Kasumi has a pretty funny line when you talk to Avina about the Reapers. Other than that she is invisible on missions. Although that is true of most squad members. Almost nothing to say on the ship either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl8OZxgTiFE

The air quotes, and the Shepard stare make me LoL.
 
Eusis said:
You can keep it platonic just by saying
"I prefer women"
after it's developed far enough. Survived for me anyway.
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My Shepard was just too masculine for Steve to even consider hitting on. I didn't even see an option to date Steveorini neither did I want one. He was best as a friend. The game did try to be funny when I invited Vega to talk about his problems, and he made a little homoerotic comment. I quickly nipped that in the bud though. Shepard is meant to be with Liara and you can see that in the focus of the game. Anything else is non cannon.
 
Photolysis said:
To be fair to the guy, it is a pretty good imitation as far as mimicry goes. Plus he has the additional challenge of trying to emulate a voice someone else has created, rather than developing it himself.



Best example would be Mordin's singing.
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There was too many variables, he did a impressive job, someone else might have gotten it wrong
 
SerArthurDayne said:
Javik is the best of the bunch.

Kasumi is practically invisible in ME2, has a brief cameo in ME3. Her mission in ME2 is a little bit unique, and pretty good overall. She is actually a very good squadmate.

Overlord affects Grissom Academy as well, in a very minor way, depending on what you do in Overlord. Not sure about the Geth server mission. Probably some slight dialogue difference if you didn't do it, although I doubt any of your actions would change what is said if you did it.
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Overlord also has a tie in to the mission you see Jacob on.
 
Mordin is one of my all time favourite characters, I actually cried when shep pulled the trigger :'(

is there a renagade way too save him? I'm hoping this play through I just made all the wrong options
 
bigace33 said:
Shepard is meant to be with Liara and you can see that in the focus of the game. Anything else is non cannon.
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I did Liarra in ME1 and then Miranda in ME2. When I ran into Miranda on the Citadel in this game and gave her the Heisman I actually felt bad...she cried. I remembered all of those e-mails that Shadow Broker had on her from the dating service. She was really lonely and actually fell hard for Shep. :(

My next playthrough I'm going to go with her, not like it matters, everyone dies or ends up on a jungle planet anyway.
 
Karl2177 said:
I would like to know this as well. Did he not sign for another game or something?
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Wasn't asked to reprise his role, despite going on record months before recording was finished as saying he'd love to come back for ME3.

Why Bioware didn't ask will likely forever be a mystery, but if I had to guess it would be that he managed to piss off the wrong person.
 
hm... brought EDI along for Thessia this time (already did the Prothean stuff in a previous run). She seems to make a few comments. I don't recall Ashley or the others making any comments at the temple.
 
Photolysis said:
Wasn't asked to reprise his role, despite going on record months before recording was finished as saying he'd love to come back for ME3.

Why Bioware didn't ask will likely forever be a mystery, but if I had to guess it would be that he managed to piss off the wrong person.
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what? fuck bioware

Mordin is one of the best part of ME2
 
Photolysis said:
Wasn't asked to reprise his role, despite going on record months before recording was finished as saying he'd love to come back for ME3.

Why Bioware didn't ask will likely forever be a mystery, but if I had to guess it would be that he managed to piss off the wrong person.
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And now none of us will ever be VAs in a Bioware game.

And that's really a shame.
 
Okay, so I finished the game with the best survival ending just now. Shepard awakening in London is bullshit. The part you shoot collapses around you in random pieces of concrete-looking junk and steel. The noises you hear in the survival cut scene are just random spooky space noises. My interpretation is that Shepard is simply awakening under the rubble of the shot-apart power conduit she or he broke to start the ending.
 
Captain Tuttle said:
I did Liarra in ME1 and then Miranda in ME2. When I ran into Miranda on the Citadel in this game and gave her the Heisman I actually felt bad...she cried. I remembered all of those e-mails that Shadow Broker had on her from the dating service. She was really lonely and actually fell hard for Shep. :(

My next playthrough I'm going to go with her, not like it matters, everyone dies or ends up on a jungle planet anyway.
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Was she lonely or horny?

All she cared about was diseases. Which I guess could be considered in multiple ways, but ...

And poor Tali, she couldn't resist my Shep from day one.

I almost missed the Shadowbroker files. Glad I didn't.
 
Captain Tuttle said:
I did Liarra in ME1 and then Miranda in ME2. When I ran into Miranda on the Citadel in this game and gave her the Heisman I actually felt bad...she cried. I remembered all of those e-mails that Shadow Broker had on her from the dating service. She was really lonely and actually fell hard for Shep. :(

My next playthrough I'm going to go with her, not like it matters, everyone dies or ends up on a jungle planet anyway.
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I never led Miranda on in my last ME2 and ME3 play through. I kept it professional the whole time. Her story was kind of sad in ME3, but I ended up helping her and her sister. I never saw the dating service thing.
 
Rapstah said:
Okay, so I finished the game with the best survival ending just now. Shepard awakening in London is bullshit. The part you shoot collapses around you in random pieces of concrete-looking junk and steel. The noises you hear in the survival cut scene are just random spooky space noises. My interpretation is that Shepard is simply awakening under the rubble of the shot-apart power conduit she or he broke to start the ending.
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But he gets caught in the first explosion (completely englufs him) and then, if you pay attention, the entire area he was at blows up too (in a gigantic explosion) so there wouldn't be any citadel to wake up on, unless he somehow got flung into the arms.
 
ace3skoot said:
Mordin is one of my all time favourite characters, I actually cried when shep pulled the trigger :'(

is there a renagade way too save him? I'm hoping this play through I just made all the wrong options
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Killing Wrex or Mordin crosses over from "Renegade" to proof you are a real life dirtbag.


Did you torture small animals as a child as well. I BET YOU DID
 
Zomba13 said:
But he gets caught in the first explosion (completely englufs him) and then, if you pay attention, the entire area he was at blows up too (in a gigantic explosion) so there wouldn't be any citadel to wake up on, unless he somehow got flung into the arms.
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You never see the Citadel blow up. There's the engulfed in flames part, but nothing is explicitly blown to pieces. Same with the platform inside: the conduit you shoot breaks and falls on top of you, but the whole place does not disintegrate.
 
AlStrong said:
hm... brought EDI along for Thessia this time (already did the Prothean stuff in a previous run). She seems to make a few comments. I don't recall Ashley or the others making any comments at the temple.
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Garrus points out the similarities of Atheme and her posse to Protheans as well.
 
Man, I played some multiplayer earlier, and am feeling the urge to play through the good parts of the game again. I might just let Marauder kill me.

I'm also about out of Spring Break, so another play through would probably take me a couple of weeks. By that time I could know more or be more at peace with the ending. Decisions.

Rapstah said:
You never see the Citadel blow up. There's the engulfed in flames part, but nothing is explicitly blown to pieces. Same with the platform inside: the conduit you shoot breaks and falls on top of you, but the whole place does not disintegrate.
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I disagree. Not as explicit as the relays exploding, but it is racked by explosions, the room you are in seems to blow up, and the arms of the citadel appear to be breaking off in the last shot. Seems pretty dead.
 
Rufus said:
Same. What bugs me the most is how obvious some of the mistakes seem to be. How easy it is to come up with less disappointing endings, even if you fix it with a hacksaw, as Bioware did with so many things.
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Yeah, I think the problems being so obvious makes it so much worse. Up until that floating platform, ME3 was delivering everything I wanted. I loved the cameos, I loved the closure of series long story arcs, I loved the missions themselves, and I loved the character banter. It was doing enough, consistently, to keep me very satisfied. All they had to do was live up to promises and not fuck the ending and the trilogy would have left me completely satisfied.
 
LuchaShaq said:
Killing Wrex or Mordin crosses over from "Renegade" to proof you are a real life dirtbag.


Did you torture small animals as a child as well. I BET YOU DID
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Wrex is bad, but Mordin's is even worse.


He crawls on the ground ffs.


It was painful to watch.


He's already dead in my super Renegade playthrough though, same with Wrex.
 
Captain Tuttle said:
See, I never got the Tali thing. I guess it's the mask, I don't know. I never even considered her.
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She has a lot of character development over the course of the three games. I touched on this in an earlier post but basically goes from a running teenager on her pilgrimage in the first game to an admiral in the last game, lots of growing up. Her mission in 2 was pretty good as well with her trial/daddy issues.

Her drunk scene where she calls Miranda a bitch was also pretty damn good.

Also I think a lot of people like the accent.
 
Who the hell would pass up Miranda?

Liara was miffed when she found out I nailed Miranda in the hotel room on the Citadel. Damn Shadow broker informants are everywhere.
 
Captain Tuttle said:
See, I never got the Tali thing. I guess it's the mask, I don't know. I never even considered her.
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Its a reference to the Shadowbroker files. Basically there is a timeline of her character, and from the day she meets Shepard she installs and then uninstalls and then reinstalls a certain Nerv-Stim Pro.

This might be a neutral reference, but a Quarian who has just broken up with her boyfriend on Ilium mentions how she has that program to "console" her.

Just a little gag, but it made me laugh.
 
Captain Tuttle said:
See, I never got the Tali thing. I guess it's the mask, I don't know. I never even considered her.
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Virginal exotic space muslim. She's the next big nerd fantasy next to busty all female blue space lesbian.
 
Wiggum2007 said:
Actually some fans emailed him about this and he responded, he loved the character and was absolutely ready to continue to role, but for whatever reason Bioware never contacted him. :(

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Given how minor Mordin's role was in the game anyway, I find it odd that they'd go out of their way not to hire him again. Weird.
 
PsychoWARD23 said:
Wrex is bad, but Mordin's is even worse.


He crawls on the ground ffs.


It was painful to watch.


He's already dead in my super Renegade playthrough though, same with Wrex.
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I'll make sure I never walk a dog near your yard, it's probably laced with poison that would seep through his paws killing him slowly.
 
Disheveled_Zen said:
She has a lot of character development over the course of the three games. I touched on this in an earlier post but basically goes from a running teenager on her pilgrimage in the first game to an admiral in the last game, lots of growing up. Her mission in 2 was pretty good as well with her trial/daddy issues.

Also I think a lot of people like the accent.
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Totally agree, she grows up quite a bit. I also loved her mission in the second game. I just never considered romancing her.

EatChildren said:
Virginal exotic space muslim. She's the next big nerd fantasy next to busty all female blue space lesbian.
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Liara really got more...endowed in this game didn't she?
 
The only explicit plothole I see is that the game gives no reason for the Reapers/catalyst to want to preserve organic life, but you can kinda deduce it. You guys shure like to overreact.
 
LuchaShaq said:
Killing Wrex or Mordin crosses over from "Renegade" to proof you are a real life dirtbag.


Did you torture small animals as a child as well. I BET YOU DID
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Wrex attacked shep! it was self defence, Also it kind of bugged me that mordin did a 180 in ME3 he did a terrible thing for the right reasons, the genophage had to stay it was in the best interest of the galaxy...of cause had i of known in the end everyone would be screwed over/killed/stuck on a jungle planet I probably need not of bothered :p
 
He told you quite emphatically that he made a mistake, you monster.

EatChildren said:
Yeah, I think the problems being so obvious makes it so much worse. Up until that floating platform, ME3 was delivering everything I wanted. I loved the cameos, I loved the closure of series long story arcs, I loved the missions themselves, and I loved the character banter. It was doing enough, consistently, to keep me very satisfied. All they had to do was live up to promises and not fuck the ending and the trilogy would have left me completely satisfied.
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Not completely satisfied, but satisfied, yeah. Despite ME2 not contributing much, it gave us Mordin. Should have stayed apprehensive about the whole thing because of ME2 and it not actually continuing the story, but they got me again with ME3. And then they cap it off with that.

Damned video games.
 
Shepard said:
The only explicit plothole I see is that the game gives no reason for the Reapers/catalyst to want to preserve organic life, but you can kinda deduce it. You guys shure like to overreact.
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And the fact that my squad mates who were with me on the final charge are somehow on the Normandy, light years away, crash land and don't have a single scratch on them despite crashing and being blown up by a Reaper and managed to do all of this in a span of 10 minutes?

Also Shep being alive despite the kid saying I would die if I destroyed them?
 
ace3skoot said:
Wrex attacked shep! it was self defence, Also it kind of bugged me that mordin did a 180 in ME3 he did a terrible thing for the right reasons, the genophage had to stay it was in the best interest of the galaxy...of cause had i of known in the end everyone would be screwed over/killed/stuck on a jungle planet I probably need not of bothered :p
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It wasn't an arbitrary 180, he clearly had some regret for his second genophage and will even snap if you bring this up to him at the time for it to be cured. I think the rationalizing he did in 2 was more to convince HIMSELF than convincing others.
 
I never had any interest in Tali as a love interest, but there's no doubt that she and Garrus are the two best, most developed characters across the three games.

Liara would be up there too if her transformation from giggly Prothean scientist to no-nonsense ass-kicking Shadowbroker didn't all take place while Shepherd was asleep.

I don't know if anybody else feels the same way, but I HATED Jack in Mass Effect 2. Hated her.

In one 20 minute mission in ME3, I had completely changed my stance. They updated her character just enough to be sympathetic, without losing her edge. Plus, he has hair and actual clothes, which helps.

I actually would love a Jack DLC so I could get her in my party.
 
If I didn't care about the ending (or what I thought was the ending),

I would sacrifice all krogan for Mordin
I would sacrifice all quarian for Legion
 
Disheveled_Zen said:
And the fact that my squad mates who were with me on the final charge are somehow on the Normandy, light years away, crash land and don't have a single scratch on them despite crashing and being blown up by a Reaper and managed to do all of this in a span of 10 minutes?
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That isn't what I'd consider a major plot-hole.
 
Shepard said:
The only explicit plothole I see is that the game gives no reason for the Reapers/catalyst to want to preserve organic life, but you can kinda deduce it. You guys shure like to overreact.
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The ending is intentionally written as non-deducable! In its attempt not to explain anything it opens more plot holes than most endings that would try to explain would. If the guy had put just a little bit of thought into what would have made a cool ending practically rather than what was a cool theoretical ending for someone else then it would have been really good. That's why I'm mad.

Shepard said:
That isn't what I'd consider a major plot-hole.
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Illusive Man can suddenly control Anderson.
Harbinger leaves without making sure Shepard is dead despite having shown great interest in Shepard as a person as late as Arrival, set six months before ME3.
There's an old man and a kid after all endings including the Synthesis ending, but synthetic life forms don't age or have children that age.

EDIT: And frankly I would never have known Mordin changed voice actors. I guess it's easy to do with a race where everyone sounds more or less the same.
 
Mordin was basically begging for help in ME2. If you played Renegade you might have been able to convince him that was the right thing to do, though. But he got reset just like the Rachni and the Geth/Quarians.
 
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