DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Damage control and also throwing their just-about-to-release game under the bus.
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Mass Effect 5 won't dabble with stylised visuals like Dragon Age: The Veilguard, director says. Will have the "mature tone of the original trilogy".
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rubik's dude
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It's interesting to see the goalpost move regarding the og Mass Effect trilogy. Those were looked at as dumbed down versions of KOTOR when they came out. Now they're the standard Bioware should be aiming for.
It's the same with TESVI and Skyrim. Skyrim was called a dumbed down Oblivion on release, and Oblivion was called a dumbed down Morrowind.
I wonder why some things that were looked on unfavorably when they released are considered the standard now.
It's the same with TESVI and Skyrim. Skyrim was called a dumbed down Oblivion on release, and Oblivion was called a dumbed down Morrowind.
I wonder why some things that were looked on unfavorably when they released are considered the standard now.
Gamer_By_Proxy
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If they can mandate a vax to work, maybe he can mandate choq male vitality. And how sexist is the word mandate. Ewww.
Madflavor
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Considering what Bioware has turned into and the kind of writing and dialogue they've been demonstrating, I HIGHLY doubt that.
Werewolf Jones
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Visual style for the new Dragon Age is the least of that games worries.
coachmcguirk91
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Even if Dragon Age bombs, I don't see anything happening to Bioware. Mass Effect is such a huge IP, I don't think EAwould want a new studio starting from scratch and delaying it's release even further
Dragon Age Veilguard is at least a competent game by technical standards
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winjer
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It's EA, they have a very long list of dead studios.
Kacho
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Yeah I agree. BioWares biggest problem is on the creative side.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
That was one of the things that made the original ME trilogy great. You were a military man/woman and you ran a tight ship. You expected a certain level of discipline and respect among your crew. If someone got out of line then you gave them a dressing down and put them in their place, because your mission was bigger and more important than any one person’s petty bullshit.That's a good start but what I want to know is will there be characters who try to lecture me on real world cultural and political subjects and if so, will I have the option to shoot them
From what I’ve seen of Veilguard you’re no commander. More like a therapist and a babysitter. Your job is to listen to your companions talk about their emotions and gently solve the tiniest of disagreements as if you’re mediating a dispute between Daniel Tiger and Prince Wednesday.
Angry_Megalodon
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The damage control is strong with this one.
Pathetic.
Pathetic.
Lucifers Beard
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Not in the least bit interested in anything that Bioware shit out from here on out. All those glowing reviews for the new DA game aren't hiding the fact that the dialogue scenes are fucking awful. It's Dragon Age in name only. I'm sure the same will be said for any new Mass Effect game.
Alebrije
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If Veliguard don't reach sales goals by far EA just wilm layoff the team at much. So basically Bioware would be ME team.
Palabragrís
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Damage control? But the article says BioWare is receiving in "positive critical reception". Suspicious? Nah...
rm082e
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From what I can find digging around Wikipedia, there are shared team members between the group working on DA and ME? Seems like there are different groups of creatives on each project (writing, concept art, direction, etc.), but they probably have the same technical people like animators engineers, QA, etc.?
If DA:TVG is a big enough bomb, I can imagine EA taking another look at the state of ME5 and evaluating the likelihood of success/failure.
If DA:TVG is a big enough bomb, I can imagine EA taking another look at the state of ME5 and evaluating the likelihood of success/failure.
Gambit2483
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Now ask him how gay is it going to be?
CrustyBritches
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It’s going to be lame and you know it.
Nickolaidas
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Tired faces or no buy.
Radical_3d
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I hope it looks PS360 generation AF. That somehow they recover the shaders from those days of plastic faces. No subsurface nonsense. Stay true!
Seriously, who tf cares how it looks. It needs to be good. Period. And bring Vanderloo back!
Seriously, who tf cares how it looks. It needs to be good. Period. And bring Vanderloo back!
Autistic_Pancake
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EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
or....its just saying Mass Effect 5 won't have stylized visuals as its a compeltely different game.
Thats like saying the next Battlefield won't have stylized visuals is throwing Dragon Age under the bus lol So I wouldn't expect Dragon Age to look like Mass Effect, they are 2 different games, that isn't some wild discovery
Will be photo realistic and look like a sci-fi game instead of a fantasy "OMG WOW, i CAN'T BELIEVE EA IS THROWING THEM UNDER THE BUS WITH THIS NEWS" (series of twitter noises) lol
lol i came here for this! (and came here for this)
Plague Doctor
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I am just going to say this.
If you have any faith after Andromeda, Anthem, and now Veilguard...
buy the next Mass Effect game. I want you to lose money. You need to be parted with it. Economic Darwinism at work.
Also kindly buy those Wallmart giftcards for the IRS agent trying to solve your sudden tax issue on the phone. He is legit and his name is really Thomas Anderson.
If you have any faith after Andromeda, Anthem, and now Veilguard...
buy the next Mass Effect game. I want you to lose money. You need to be parted with it. Economic Darwinism at work.
Also kindly buy those Wallmart giftcards for the IRS agent trying to solve your sudden tax issue on the phone. He is legit and his name is really Thomas Anderson.
Boss Mog
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That sounds even worse than some some random NPC lecturing me.
Last Hearth
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Don't want to be tainted by the stench of Veilguard, yeah I'd do the same thing in his position.
Via Eurogamer
Unlike Dragon Age: The Veilguard, which hits shops later this week, Mass Effect 5 will not seek to tweak the sci-fi franchise's established visual style, he said.
"Mass Effect is photorealistic and will be as long as I'm running it," Gamble wrote in a post on X.
"Both are from the studio, but Mass Effect is Mass Effect. How you bring a sci-fi RPG to life is different than other genres or IPs," he continued, "and has to have different kinds of love."
As for Mass Effect 5's tone, Gamble wrote it would "maintain the mature tone of the original Trilogy. This is all I'm going to say for now."
Syphon Filter
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Peopel are naive if they believe this bs lol. it will be woke trash, you can cope and hope all you want
DeepEnigma
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dmaul1114
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I definitley prefer keeping a more realistic style for Mass Effect.
That said, I don’t mind the stylized visuals of the new Dragon Age—but get why people who like the grim dark fantasy style of prior games don’t like it (I never liked the series as much partly as I’m just not as much a fan of that setting).
Also, I’m fine if more single player games go stylized in the future if it helps cut budget and keep them getting made. It’s crazy seeing stuff like Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth being number 9 (IIRC) in game sales year to date and still falling short of sales/profit margin expectations by Square Enix.
Being a lover of single player games, I want them to kept getting made even if fewer can be high end AAA games in terms of graphics, amount of voice acting etc. With younger generations being mostly into online service games, and corporations wanting to chase those profits, something will have to give for a lot of single player games as few sell enough to generate the expected profit margins if the development costs are crazy high.
That said, I don’t mind the stylized visuals of the new Dragon Age—but get why people who like the grim dark fantasy style of prior games don’t like it (I never liked the series as much partly as I’m just not as much a fan of that setting).
Also, I’m fine if more single player games go stylized in the future if it helps cut budget and keep them getting made. It’s crazy seeing stuff like Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth being number 9 (IIRC) in game sales year to date and still falling short of sales/profit margin expectations by Square Enix.
Being a lover of single player games, I want them to kept getting made even if fewer can be high end AAA games in terms of graphics, amount of voice acting etc. With younger generations being mostly into online service games, and corporations wanting to chase those profits, something will have to give for a lot of single player games as few sell enough to generate the expected profit margins if the development costs are crazy high.
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
The timing is suspicious. Believe what you will
March Climber
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To be fair, the only Dragon Age game that didn’t have stylized character models and visuals was Inquisition.
Mass Effect arrived out of the gate attempting to go for realistic human models and grounded settings.
EverydayBeast
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Neogaf seeing Veilguard’s graphics:
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Exactly. You can almost smell their fear. This is good. Even if this bombs, it guarantees us at least some welcome diversity in art direction.
LordOfChaos
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The established visual style
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
Look Donkey, I need more then just "timing is suspicious" , not of something that is literally a different theme and marketing action that is the norm following a AAA release, for me to feel something is suspicious, you got to give me something that wasn't done before, rare, unnormal, unusual or something like this, not a basic concept now forced into "damage control" cause they told you Mass Effect 5 would be realistic looking, that is too much of a given to be this wild idea
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Only 1 long winded paragraph as a response? Bro you’re getting lazy, I expected more from you.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
lol I would have a comeback like I expected more from you too but, I expect no evidence or any post of substance from you generally lol
I mean, this isn't really anything
namenotfound
Neo Member
I'd be more worried about the narrative than the art style. Andromeda was already a bit of a cop out by going to another galaxy so they wouldn't have to address the world state post 3. Probably just try to make another Reaper level threat that is twirling their mustache level of evil. Andromeda tried to go low risk by avoiding the Milky Way aftermath. Veilguard looks like it wishes it wasn't a Dragon Age sequel so there wouldn't be any expectations for better than twirling their mustache type evil antagonist
dmaul1114
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Eh. To me they just need to nail the characters and their stories.
Overall plot has always been tropey shit in Bioware games IMO. They appeal for me was always the character interactions, relationships, loyalty quests etc.
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