Mass Effect 5 won't dabble with stylised visuals like Dragon Age: The Veilguard, director says. Will have the "mature tone of the original trilogy".

I'll only be interested in this new Mass Effect Trilogy is if it has actually attractive women with pretty face. No women with dicks, fugly looking chubby women please. And there's a ton more fanservice even more so than the OG Trilogy. And actual good story like the OG Trilogy. If it doesn't have any of these I'm not buying the game
 
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dmaul1114 said:
Eh. To me they just need to nail the characters and their stories.

Overall plot has always been tropey shit in Bioware games IMO. They appeal for me was always the character interactions, relationships, loyalty quests etc.
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I agree there. Veilguard looks concerning for that but I agree, Bioware games are carried by their companion stories. At least after KOTOR. The planet stories up to the Rakatan planet I enjoyed more than the companion stories. Obsidian, KOTOR 2, character and main narrative all great to me. Mass Effect series all about the characters. I couldn't finish Andromeda though so don't know if those companions ever got better than what I remember. Dragon Age, a bit of both but each game they kept hastily resolving or dropping/ignoring plotlines from the previous game that it really is all about its characters. SWTOR, at least base class questlines, most of them aren't very interesting so most of those are carried by the companions. SWTOR main questlines are most enjoyable seeing how ridiculous cartoonishly evil/sarcastic dialog option playthroughs are
 
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I agree there. Veilguard looks concerning for that but I agree, Bioware games are carried by their companion stories. At least after KOTOR. The planet stories up to the Rakatan planet I enjoyed more than the companion stories. Obsidian, KOTOR 2, character and main narrative all great to me. Mass Effect series all about the characters. I couldn't finish Andromeda though so don't know if those companions ever got better than what I remember. Dragon Age, a bit of both but each game they kept hastily resolving or dropping/ignoring plotlines from the previous game that it really is all about its characters. SWTOR, at least base class questlines, most of them aren't very interesting so most of those are carried by the companions. SWTOR main questlines are most enjoyable seeing how ridiculous cartoonishly evil/sarcastic dialog option playthroughs are
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IDK about that either. Most of the Veilguard reviews I've read, positive and not, have pointed to the character stuff being strong again and overall narrative and writing not great. Ignoring all the culture war stuff anyway. Looking forward to finding out for myself later this week!

But yeah,, choice in AAA series across games should probably just go away. Budgets are too high to account for multiple outcomes, much less for majorly different endings.
 
I have decided I will put myself through DA Veilguard, as I have enjoyed every previous entry in it's own right. I already know i will be annoyed by the direction it took, so this statement is giving me hope for the future of the other Bioware IP I used to like.

Now, a question: I never touched ME Andromeda at all. I have no idea about it or what is wrong with it. Is it really so bad that I should just keep ignoring it? I loved the ME trilogy. I mean: when ME2 is a 9/10, what is Andromeda? A 7/10? A 4/10? Because of all the horrible impressions I have always stayed away, but I think i could deal with a 7/10 Andromeda opposed to a 9/10 ME2, but not say a 4/10.
 
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Narrative oriented games need good witers, Yep gameplay and graphics help but if the Main story plus side quests are lame/repetitive and dialogs options are bland the Game Will fail.

That is why Witcher 3 is good and FF16 is lame on the story telling topic. If next Mass Effect wants to be good need a great story and dialogs.

Problem is industry recent examples are below expectatives, games like Starfield, Outer Worlds and it seems Veliguard ; have pretty Bad narrative/ dialogs. It seems like developers are moving to action RPG like Zelda than deep story driven games.

Good there are still a group of developers that put efford on this topic, by example CDPR , hope they keep the good work on Witcher 4.
 
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt said:
I'll only be interested in this new Mass Effect Trilogy is if it has actually attractive women with pretty face. No women with dicks, fugly looking chubby women please. And there's a ton more fanservice even more so than the OG Trilogy. And actual good story like the OG Trilogy. If it doesn't have any of these I'm not buying the game
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Yeah, I don't think you're getting any of that from the current Bioware.
 
What was the last good BioWare game. No way they can live up to the series past. Also someone post a pic of the dev team.
 
There's no way that the new Mass Effect game isn't going to have pandering identity politics. Hopefully you can at least ignore those scenarios and only go through them if you want to instead of being forced through them. I really don't care if they put in dialog and plot options for people who want to explore the gender identity of the characters, but if I just want to be a hard ass mission focused commanding officer and not care about getting to know the people on my crew then please let me do that.
 
Their mature tone will boil down to me removing a body part because of parental issues, rendering myself childless, no?

Trust level in "Bioware": -10000%
 
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There is nothing stylized about those visuals.

Also, Mass Effect 2, precious gem in the eyes of mainstream, is super overrated. Exploration is so limited and exterior environments feel like a couple of corridors and that's it. Even Morrowind and Oblivion feel WAY more expansive than "space exploration" offered in Mass Effect 2. I don't think next Mass Effect will deliver. The signs are all over the place.
 
Singular7 said:
Their mature tone will boil down to me removing a body part because of parental issues, rendering myself childless, no?

Trust level in "Bioware": -10000%
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Man the last good Bioware game was Mass Effect 3 (Despite the ending) Amazing how far that developer has fallen. They were huge back in the day. I guess getting bought out by EA and the recent push for agenda driven content is what's been killing them
 
As long as it doesn't have that MADE FOR MODERN AUDIENCES shite or non binary weirdos in it. Keep that crap out of gaming and just give us proper normal good games.
 
Will still be infested with agenda drivel.
Also after Andromeda, and now the same thing with Dragon Age it seems,not being able to be an asshole in these games (or bad) is a real turn off.
Being evil Sheperd was hilarious.
 
As a huge fan of past Bioware games, I sort of hope they go tits up after Veilguard. There is no way they make another decent Mass Effect game. Clearly these developers are not learning any lessons. It has been over 10 years since Bioware made a really decent game. The decline started with DA:I and has really gone down since. I enjoyed Endromeda well enough, only because I really really like Mass Effect. Anthem was just boring and soulless. Bioware is essentially just shitting all over their past IPs with any sequels they make, so I would rather they would just leave them the hell alone. I do not even trust them with a remake at this point.
 
Don't worry, it will still have top scars, incessant conversations about importance of being non-binary and terrible writing we have grown to "love" from BioWare since ME3.

And HR will still be in the room! 😉
 
MujkicHaris said:
There is nothing stylized about those visuals.

Also, Mass Effect 2, precious gem in the eyes of mainstream, is super overrated. Exploration is so limited and exterior environments feel like a couple of corridors and that's it. Even Morrowind and Oblivion feel WAY more expansive than "space exploration" offered in Mass Effect 2. I don't think next Mass Effect will deliver. The signs are all over the place.
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Personally I liked ME1 the best out of the trilogy since it had that feeling of exploration and going into unknown so to speak.

ME2 had very good character stories though. It was more of an action game with RPG elements.
 
Mass Effect 5 is going to go all out on the pronouns, body types, etc. They have an excuse especially since it's a futuristic setting.
 
U n i o n 0015 said:
100%. Must be looking at those incoming sales numbers and having a code brown moment.
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Code brown for a shit situation.

These guys have an uphill battle when it comes to people trusting them with their time and money and even attention. After ME:Andromeda I've mostly ignored BioWare games.
 
The tone is all that really matters, more than being realistic or not.

I greatly prefer stylized visuals over boring realism, but the entire tone they went for was this sanded off edges low-rent Disney garbage with CW-tier dialog. The Darkspawn and Qunari got nerfed especially, not imposing at all... just trash.

Only some environments in Veilguard look nice, that's about it.
 
Anyone remember the transgender character in Mass Effect Andromeda that deadnames themselves and got the trans community pissed off?
 
They saw the shit storm coming and said "sorry people (can't say "guys"), but we have to go back to the table... You, make an statement in social media, this shit is too expensive to let it fail"
 
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I shudder to think what these transgenders, feminist hacks and millenial post-hipster neckbeards consider "mature" storytelling and art...
 
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