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Mass Effect: Andromeda |OT| Ryders on the Storm
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I'm hesitant on this game after all I've heard but I'm also wondering if it could be a Dragon Age 2 situation for me.
I played DA2 long after the hype and criticism had kind of worn off and actually found a lot to like about it. I totally agree with everything people disliked about DA2: the plain graphics, the small scale, the dumbed down dialogue system, the repeated maps, and the simplified combat. Despite all that, the main thing I play BioWare games for -- the story and characters, was still really enjoyable and actually rather unique in DA2.
And hearing that some people still like ME:A kind of gives me some level of hope for whenever I eventually do play the game (probably April, May, or June or something after Zelda, DAI, and Persona 5). How is the Nomad exploration compared to the Mako in Mass Effect 1 (which I really enjoyed)? Honestly what I want the most is just that feeling of having your own space ship and traversing the galaxy.
I played DA2 long after the hype and criticism had kind of worn off and actually found a lot to like about it. I totally agree with everything people disliked about DA2: the plain graphics, the small scale, the dumbed down dialogue system, the repeated maps, and the simplified combat. Despite all that, the main thing I play BioWare games for -- the story and characters, was still really enjoyable and actually rather unique in DA2.
And hearing that some people still like ME:A kind of gives me some level of hope for whenever I eventually do play the game (probably April, May, or June or something after Zelda, DAI, and Persona 5). How is the Nomad exploration compared to the Mako in Mass Effect 1 (which I really enjoyed)? Honestly what I want the most is just that feeling of having your own space ship and traversing the galaxy.
RedlineRonin
Member
Below isn't actually very spoilery, esp if you already have Jaal, but is a perfect example of why i find him so entertaining thus far:
I doubt this is the case. Even though I enjoy ME2 combat it does suffer from a lot of cover based shooting and pausing every few seconds.
I don't think they wanted that type of combat gameplay for Andromeda. Once you get used to it the combat here is so smooth and fast, possibly what they always envisioned for the series.
Yeah I feel this way too, I'm trying to get into it and I'm currently trying to manage 3 but it's just too punishing with the cooldown timer. I wish the profiles were mapped to the D-Pad for an easy smooth switch.
Hopefully they reduce the cooldown when you switch, most of the times I switch I'm almost done with the battle when the abilities are ready, either that or I'm dead.
Having the power wheel does not exclude their design ideal of having the current type of combat gameplay. It's an unnecessary exclusion that only removes options for players who otherwise would like to play the game differently.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Should I sell all salvage?
People on my PSN friends list have appeared to be playing nothing but MP so far. Every time I log in, they are never in the campaign mode. Is this indicative of how good the MP is, or how bad the campaign is... or neither?
I was just watching Jimpressions, and I gotta say, I am kind of glad I hadn't hyped myself up for this game, because it looks rough. It really doesn't seem like Bioware put their A team on this, which is a damn shame, because it's probably their biggest franchise. DA: Inquisition, while not a masterpiece, was a pretty decent game, so I'm wondering how this compares, as I've only seen brief gameplay footage.
I was just watching Jimpressions, and I gotta say, I am kind of glad I hadn't hyped myself up for this game, because it looks rough. It really doesn't seem like Bioware put their A team on this, which is a damn shame, because it's probably their biggest franchise. DA: Inquisition, while not a masterpiece, was a pretty decent game, so I'm wondering how this compares, as I've only seen brief gameplay footage.
Freeman76
Member
As long as they have a good personality someone will love them
BizzyBum
Member
Yeah, seems like it's just junk for credits.
I feel like the whole inventory / loot design in this game is archaic. One amazing thing in Fallout 4 was the real time looting. Every game needs to do this going forward.
RedlineRonin
Member
Yup.
Iirc there's a description somewhere in your inventory for salvage that says something to the effect of "there's no use for this other than selling"
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I think buying one at the arms store in the docking bay unlocks the blueprint.
I mentioned it before, but it's really bugging me-
Input lag is so bad on the Pro. Input lag never bothers me, except for Rise of the tomb raider where it was so bad it made precise aiming almost impossible. It seems even worse in this game.
Is it bad on the base ps4 as well? Or in other skus?
Input lag is so bad on the Pro. Input lag never bothers me, except for Rise of the tomb raider where it was so bad it made precise aiming almost impossible. It seems even worse in this game.
Is it bad on the base ps4 as well? Or in other skus?
Slackbladder
Member
Yes. It's just to make money. You can sell resources but you have to manually choose to.
So level 30 is a soft cap. I'm at level 32 now and I've unlocked all lvl 5 weapons and armour. I'm now finding gear goes all the way to 10 like in ME1. Not sure if it's all gear or just some. Need to be level 40 to get lvl 10 stuff.
Just did a Strike Team mission from Multiplayer, got a partial extraction (I was killed by a Fiend), and didn't get any Strike Team rewards from doing it. Do I have to get a full extraction for the reward? This seems insane - even in Bronze, full extractions have been really rare with PUGs. If this mode stays this challenging I might have to tap out until I can find some friends to play with... it's fun, but losing 12 odd minutes for no Strike Team rewards - which are already really minimal - feels awful.
The way I see it the power wheel was primarily in place because you have more than 3 of your own abilities at your disposal and your squad's abilities too. There was no way to map all of those in a controller and therefore they had to implement it in order to pause the game and allow you to select which ones you wanted to use and on which enemy.
Having that amount of control was great but it did make the gameplay really slow at times, especially on harder difficulties. They tone it down to just 3 in Andromeda and took away squad ability control in order to accommodate a fast and smooth type of combat.
yankeehater
Member
I havent played one second of the campaign yet, the mp is that good.
I agree. It totally should be based on your cooldown at the time, so if all of your skills are ready to use - the skills you switch to should be too.
What's the overwhelmingly abhorrent nature of that line?
RedlineRonin
Member
Do you mean Apex Strike Team missions? i was doing these during the trial, completing them, and i still wasn't getting the rewards when i logged back into my single player game.
I'm not sure if that was patched (or even a bug?)
shawnoftheshred
Member
Finding inventory management a little frustrating. If, say, I'm at a point where I've got weapons in the IIIs and armors in the IIIs and IVs, is it safe to just sell any Is and IIs, no matter if they say they are rare/ultra rare? Or does owning them offer some benefit (ability to upgrade them?) that I don't immediately see?
shawnoftheshred
Member
Been doing the strike team missions through the Apex app, and every time I go to the Strike Team console in-game, I've got plenty of rewards waiting for me. The app is actually pretty streamlined/quick and I can't imagine not using it for those Strik Team missions.
BizzyBum
Member
AFAIK, once you have the upgraded version there's no reason to own the lesser version.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Why did the Initiative think that they'd find humanoid life in Andromeda?
RedlineRonin
Member
Right, same here. That's not the issue. The issue is when you're in game, you can choose to do the Apex ones in multiplayer. When i did that a couple of times during the trial, you boot over to multiplayer, match into the mission, beat it, boot back to the main menu, and when i'd "resume" back to my sp game, the rewards from beating the Apex mission in mp weren't there. Like I hadn't even done it.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Because all the other intelligent life they'd run into was humanoid with 2 exceptions so it seemed like a pretty safe bet?
Shrike Alvaron
Member
Or, more likely, they wanted to bring the SP and MP in line so they play the same. You can't exactly pause time in MP, so removing it (as well as the sniping time slowdown thing for infiltrators) removes the biggest differentiation between them.
I've only played up until the Nexus and I'm quite enjoying it. Habitat 7 was cool, even if the constant lightning got a bit annoying. I particularly enjoyed poking into the abandoned alien building and hope there's more stuff like that down the road. It really does have that sense of discovery and mystery that is really just what I wanted from the game. The animations aren't as bad as many like to make them out to be, with the worst examples just being the ones that have been cherry picked for spammable gifs. Writing isn't that great, yeah, but I don't mind it too much. It almost has a cheesy sort of charm to it, and if you just embrace the cheese it can even be funny. I feel like a lot of people were expecting the game to have a tone similar to ME3 where everything is on the brink of ruin and it's all moody and frantic and stuff, so getting more light-hearted and casual dialogue threw people off. While I haven't gotten to the actual open world bit yet, I also feel like people have been spoiled after Witcher 3, Horizon, and Zelda when it comes to open worlds hence why this one hasn't been received well.
Hopefully I have more time to dig in soon.
Lister
Banned
... with zero tactics.
Hate the 3 power limit. Fucking leave that on consoles, give me more on PC.
BizzyBum
Member
I'll chalk it up to BioWare playing it as safe as possible.
We would also relate better to them as opposed to if the new aliens we meet were squid. Though I think it would have been great to meet an abstract alien with language barriers ala Arrival. Who knows, maybe the Remnant are like that.
Anyone else having a bugged Strike Team screen? I can't even Exit out of the tab where you'd normally upgrade and inspect your Strike Teams.
Only buttons that do something are the bumpers and if they wouldn't, it would be a softlock trap screen. X,Y,B,A buttons just don't do anything in there anymore and I don't know why.
Only buttons that do something are the bumpers and if they wouldn't, it would be a softlock trap screen. X,Y,B,A buttons just don't do anything in there anymore and I don't know why.
It's because most of the party members in ME2 are optional. There are 12 squadmates and too many combinations of characters recruited/not recruited to have them talk to one another. It's the same in DA:I where the advisors like Cullen and Leliana were the only ones talking with each other back and forth.
Lister
Banned
'cause they found it all over the Milky way
This is standard trope. It's not easy to make aliens you can have adventures with and identify with if they aren't at least a bit humanoid. Take s a lot of thinking out of the box.
What bothers me the most is the waving away of the technological limitations established in the previous trilogy, and the tremendous effort this endevour would have taken.
In ME the races in the milky way barely comprehend the Citadel. They still don't understand how it maintains itself and lack the engineering to even hope to attempt building one. You're also limited by fuel when traveling FTL without a mass relay.
Somehow, these bunch of fringe lunatics wanting to be jettisonned out of the milky way on untested technology (how miserable must their lives have been!), managed to build technology that can be fully automated for centuries, and maintain FTL for that same period of time, AND when they get there they just up and built a citadel on their own.
These ar engineering feats they couldn't comprehend bakc home, and even if they could be acocmplish would require the resources and expertise of entire governments, planets and several species for decades if not centuries.
But nah, Their leader was wealthy, so there you go.
Also, this is supposed to happen between ME2 and ME3, and yet this thing that must have taken the combined budgets of 3 entire species to actually get off the ground is never mentioned? Shepherd never heard of the crazy people wanting to go to another Galaxy? Of course this is more aproblem with where they placed this thanwith the original games, which were obviously made before the concept for ME:A was being written.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I think people paid to be part of the initiative. It's basically a pyramid scheme w/o the profiteering. The Nexus is not the Citadel it's just a big spacebase.'cause they found it all over the Milky way
This is standard trope. It's not easy to make aliens you can have adventures with and identify with if they aren't at least a bit humanoid. Take s a lot of thinking out of the box.
What bothers me the most is the waving away fo the technologicla limitations of the previous trilogy.
In ME the races in the milky way barely comprehend the Citadel. They still don't understand how it maintains itself and lack the engineering to even hope to attempt building one. You're also limited by fuel when traveling FTL without a mass relay.
Somehow, these bunch of fringe lunatics wanting to be jettisonned out of the milky way on untested technology (how miserable must their lives have been!), managed to build technology that can be fully automated for centuries, and maintain FTL for that same period of time, AND when they get there they just up and built a citadel on their own.
These ar engineering feats they couldn't comprehend bakc home, and even if they could be acocmplish would require the resources and expertise of entire governments, planets and several species for decades if not centuries.
But nah, Their leader was wealthy, so there you go.
There's an App? Holy shit I did not know this was a thing. Downloading now!
Lister
Banned
The citadel is "just a big Space base" too. It's not easy to build a big space base. It is smaller though, abotu a quarter the size. Still seems implausible given tthe rest.
I think there was a better way to achive the same thing though, without necessarily straining credulity to it's limits.
Slackbladder
Member
I'm uncertain too. I think once you get a weapon or armour you get its blueprint allowing you to make a copy. But first it has to be researched (from I to II etc) which I believe is tied to your overall level.
So I assume once you've researched a higher level you can safely sell them or break them down.
DeadlyParasite
Member
The one saving grace of boss fights on Insanity difficulty is that more often than not they get bugged on a ledge and can't move. Still want to tear my hair out doing them though.
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
It's a mildly cheesy action movie type line...?
Half the time when someone trashes the script in Andromeda and then offers an example of a line that to them is particularly awful, it strikes me as pretty innocuous. Even the oft-cited "I've been talking so much, my face is tired" line from Foster Addison. A little awkward, sure, but is it really that odd of a thing to say?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
No the citadel is a
mass relay
Royal_Phalanx
Member
Can't have sex with a squid alien or a slug alien, lol.
Japan would like to have a word with you.
Lister
Banned
It's not just that line, though it's ridiculously eye roll inducing. It's that so many are equally bad or worse.
Many sound like amateurish attempts at giving you a little insight into the character, but they inevitably come off like something out of a kid's TV show. You can't trust kids to get nuance or make inferences - to examine what the character says and does and paint a picture. No, you have to spell it out:
"Hi. I'm bubbles, I'm a color fish, and I enjoy collecting shiny rocks and looking for adventure!"
Agh.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
What's scott's personality like? Sara is much more of an individual than Shepard ever was. No matter how you choose she's still goofy.