this is a nice light hearted moment...
Ed Miliband 24 years ago on TV
http://www.itv.com/news/meridian/20...-ever-tv-appearance-as-a-fresh-faced-student/
His looks have changed so much but his voice, damn, feels like an impersonator.
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His looks have changed so much but his voice, damn, feels like an impersonator.
Has Robert Webb's New Statesman article been posted yet?
http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...kind-leader-you-put-t-shirt-he-still-needs-my
He eloquently summarises what's wrong with the tone of campaigning in some quarters and why, for me, cold, nationalist-goading, economic scaremongering blather alone can't possibly sway me from caring about other things. Nice insights in to his own personal history and bits of humour too. I could select quite a few good quotes!
http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...kind-leader-you-put-t-shirt-he-still-needs-my
He eloquently summarises what's wrong with the tone of campaigning in some quarters and why, for me, cold, nationalist-goading, economic scaremongering blather alone can't possibly sway me from caring about other things. Nice insights in to his own personal history and bits of humour too. I could select quite a few good quotes!
On current polling, potentially all of them.
It's entirely possible that Scotland will be all SNP, apart from a single Lib Dem in Orkney and Shetland.
lol fair point
So when that Newsnight poll shows negative 3 for Labour, that loss is almost entirely due to Scotland? They're likely to gain seats in Wales and England?
Go_Ly_Dow
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jeez.....
QuicheFontaine
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Source?
CyclopsRock
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You're probably right, actually! It was a while ago and I was more hungover than I think I've ever been in my life whilst I was doing it. They sort of all looked like 6 lane motorways at some point... But hey, we survived! So did those other people I hit, I think.
Well, funny you should say that. I was just reading this...
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/05/are-labour-losing
Which basically suggests that it's possible their local campaigning in the marginals isn't doing much good (or, rather, that it's hardly happening at all, because they're dogpiling so hard into a handful of seats because of poor numbers) which means that their national swing might not represent much change in seats (casue they don't get any prizes for increasing majorities they already have, or getting a bit closer to winning seats that they still lose). Of course, it's just one article, but it seems reasonable.
I think that just meant down three from the last poll.
Damn, it's like he's read my mind there. Good article.
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anyone able to tell me whether it's possible to confirm that you're registered to vote? moved recently, never got a card when my neighbours did, registered on the 15th of april but never heard anything since...
Oh, right, that makes sense. British politics is more interesting than Irish politics anyway.
CyclopsRock
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Do you know your neighbours name and whether they intend to vote early? If so, you're good to go my friend
If by radically different you mean hyper-exaggerated American style neo-liberalism encrusted with a layer of unsubtle racism.
It's the aggregated average of all the polls.
Well, they are proposing some limited form of Direct Democracy. That seems interesting to me, I also think the idea of free speech would have a better chance under them.
I don't actually think they are competent enough to govern the country though. I'm just sort of playing with the idea.
Yes, let's all just fuck our country over ten fold more because lols, it's different. Smh.
The only way it'd shake the establishment is with shitty racism and xenophobia fuelled policies that would negatively affect us for years, and impede our reputation globally.
Jezbollah
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Quite clearly you're taking this all very seriously.
You mean leaving Europe and limiting immigration? A large portion of the population want a limit on immigration. Labour are pandering to those people. They all are in some way, because they know it is an issue.
http://www.labour.org.uk/issues/detail/immigration
What racist policies are you talking about?
In terms of whether they are competent enough to run the country, That's where the real risk is.
They've already said funding should be taking away from theaters that feature comedians using jokes about UKIP. And they called THE FUCKING POLICE when a journalist on Have I got News For You did a joke about them.
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haha! are you saying my girlfriend and i pretend to be our neighbours?Do you know your neighbours name and whether they intend to vote early? If so, you're good to go my friend
CyclopsRock
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No. Noooooooo.
No.
Anyway, UKIPs share of the vote has gone up 1 point in each of the last 4 ComRes polls. Yet we haven't seen the usual decline of the Tory vote at the same time.
God it's all so exciting!
Edit: also, funding should be removed from all theatres tbfh.
QuicheFontaine
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Which polls? Did you make it yourself?
I just think going to one decimal place is spurious accuracy, since the polls are already rounded to the nearest one percent usually.
I said racism and xenophobia fuelled policies, which is often what they are. And yes I do think leaving the EU, especially in the hap hazard way UKIP imply, as well as ham fisted extreme immigration control, would be massively detrimental to the country.
Could just be the shy UKIP voters finally coming out of their shell and saying they're going to vote for them? Or undecideds.
A lot of theaters (most?) are financially unviable. Some things are more important than profit. Should museums be closed too?
It's a collection of all the polls conducted to this point. The polling companies actually release results with decimal places it's just that they either round up or down for simplicity sake. If you go to May2015 then you can see a really detailed breakdown.
Latest YouGov poll (04 – 05 May):
CON – 34% (+1)
LAB – 34% (+1)
UKIP – 12% (-)
LDEM – 9% (-1)
GRN – 5% (-)
All the polls thusfar with the exception of ComRes and Ashcroft seem to be converging around the 33-34 mark for Labour and the Tories. Only ComRes out of the 5 polls today have had either party on 35%
CON – 34% (+1)
LAB – 34% (+1)
UKIP – 12% (-)
LDEM – 9% (-1)
GRN – 5% (-)
All the polls thusfar with the exception of ComRes and Ashcroft seem to be converging around the 33-34 mark for Labour and the Tories. Only ComRes out of the 5 polls today have had either party on 35%
I think some Germans thought that would be hilarious back in 1933.
this needs to be brought up each and every time someone protests that ukip does not have some serious racist factors within the party
although by now that should quite honestly be obvious, because it keeps happening
Never knew about this. Although, in terms of Have I got News For You, I kind of understand the reasoning behind it.
In terms of attacks on Free Speech goes, that is at least more reasonable than what Ed Miliband has proposed. Ed for instance wants to make 'Islamaphobia' a crime. Now depending on how broadly defined that would actual be, it could be a very bad path to go down.
The truth is, I'm just not going to vote anyway. I just want to see a party that is radically different, and competent enough to actually vote for.
Visualante2
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I think a bunch of people should stand for UKIP then pull stunts to rot the party from the inside.
Seems like you're being ironic. That's the point right?
So does this not strike you as somewhat hypocritical then?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/wo...only-a-joke-how-far-is-too-far-in-comedy.html
I'm pretty sure this is already happening.
CyclopsRock
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The only theatres that are unviable are those that produce shite no one likes - I'm not sure why the tax payer should subsidise it. Museums can stay - IMO the government has a responsibility to provide education to people, it doesn't have a responsibility to provide entertainment to the middle classes.
Come on now. I don't really think UKIP are worth voting for, but comparing them to the Nazis is ridciulous. The irony is, they're a pro-Zionist party. Believe it or not.
Something that wasn't music to troy ears tonight was the NI debates
"unionists saying that the SNP illustrate a better way to do nationalist politics (compared to SF).
*DUP saying they could agree with SNP on a lot of issues other than union and saying they have a legitimate voice"
Meanwhile the SDLP say they are neutral on the issue of england/scotland. Methinks there will be a lot of dark room dealings over the next few days...
"unionists saying that the SNP illustrate a better way to do nationalist politics (compared to SF).
*DUP saying they could agree with SNP on a lot of issues other than union and saying they have a legitimate voice"
Meanwhile the SDLP say they are neutral on the issue of england/scotland. Methinks there will be a lot of dark room dealings over the next few days...
Them being mostly pro Zionist is not remotely surprising, as I'm sure their hatred or dislike for Islam or Muslims, still supercedes that of Jews or Israel.
I wasn't so much on about the places that produce their own stuff. That's too niche to get any major support imo.
Zionism has very much done a 180 in recent years.
This would seem to be the most sensible solution as it would still give the libs power without having to run another costly election and risk ruining their reputation amongst their supporters even more. If they are seen to support the tories once more then the knives will be out for Clegg. Especially if they do poll as low as 8 percent.
Sure, but it's not much of a coup when it only takes Labour holding their nerve for it to be defeated. While I'm certainly not looking forward to the venom that the Tory press will fire towards Ed Miliband in the next few weeks, I don't think it's wrong for Cameron to stay in office and try to secure a majority in the Commons, given how unclear the situation will be. If it becomes clear he can't, then he'll resign, be it before or after a Queen's Speech/Motion of No Confidence.
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