The Albatross
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Sorry to those who's preferred party is getting trounced or those whose lives would be disrupted by lousy legislation, but truly fascinating stuff, great political theatre and a nice slap to the media's polling practices.
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May 7th | UK General Election 2015 OT - Please go vote!
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Sorry to those who's preferred party is getting trounced or those whose lives would be disrupted by lousy legislation, but truly fascinating stuff, great political theatre and a nice slap to the media's polling practices.
Jezbollah
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Very true mate.
Also: Esther McVey is GONE. just over 400 votes did her!
You're not wrong - I went in to tonight thinking that it wouldnt be much in the form of drama - I was so wrong!
What a night.
MrRoflWaffles
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Ok, GAF, here's a question.
For a Labour voter, what's a worse outcome:
A Tory majority, or a Tory-DUP coalition? (& why if possible
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For a Labour voter, what's a worse outcome:
A Tory majority, or a Tory-DUP coalition? (& why if possible
)Kotetsu534
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With so many big name casualties at this election (and if reports are true, surely the biggest is still to come: Ed Balls), good that at least one Tory minister fell.
To be honest I didn't think polls could get it so wrong in this day and age so it certainly has been astonishing viewing.
QuicheFontaine
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Can't stay up any longer, gutted not to see Bristol West but will find out tomorrow
Night all!
Night all!
bobnowhere
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You should come to Australia, our conservatives are called The Liberal Party.
Kiever Sher
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Poor Natalie Bennett didn't make it
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Deleted member 231381
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It's interesting - they evolved from the British Liberal Party, but never underwent the New Liberal phase that happened to the British Liberals in the early 1990s. The end result is our Liberals eventually turned into a centre-left party as the Liberal Democrats and the Australian equivalent ossified and became a rightwing party. Interesting contrast from common origins!
That may have been the case in the past, but today Tory is simply short for Conservative, even by definition.
So I went and campaigned in Southampton Itchen. Was a marginal last time so was really confident of a stronger Labour majority.
It went to the Tories
The incumbent MP stood down, but I really thought they'd hold on here.
So sad.
In my own constituency, New Forest East, it stayed a safe tory seat, but he rest of the positions changed. UKIP jumped into second place, Labour into third, Lib Dems fell from 2nd to 4th, Greens 5th. The Tory MP has a majority of 21,000 seats. Unchangeable.
So sad to see Vince Cable lose his seat. Surprised Clegg kept his, reckon that came from Tory tactical voting.
It went to the Tories
The incumbent MP stood down, but I really thought they'd hold on here.
So sad.
In my own constituency, New Forest East, it stayed a safe tory seat, but he rest of the positions changed. UKIP jumped into second place, Labour into third, Lib Dems fell from 2nd to 4th, Greens 5th. The Tory MP has a majority of 21,000 seats. Unchangeable.
So sad to see Vince Cable lose his seat. Surprised Clegg kept his, reckon that came from Tory tactical voting.
Actually they were a conservative party and decided to change their name to the Liberal Party.
Because reasons.
brokenbeans
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I'm awake!
Ed- yes! Conservatives won Telford.
Ed- yes! Conservatives won Telford.
That actually makes sense to me. I study political philosophy so when I see the word liberal I actually think of John Locke, Milton Friedman, etc before modern liberalism.
Delusibeta
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Meanwhile, we might get a Fermanagh & South Tyrone result today, and reports seems to point to a UUP gain.
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will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Yup.
The American concept of "liberal" seems like a PR spin to me. Because god knows their Republicans are the biggest neoliberals on the planet.
Sir_Crocodile
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Waking up to news of a possible majority. Is this actually really on the cards? If so the polls were shockingly wrong.
And Campbell a kilt
And Campbell a kilt
Yup, certainly is.
And that party was a merger between a conservative party (The Free Trade Party) and a 'liberal' party (The Protectionists).
It became dominated by conservatives in the 20's.
The Lib Dem votes seemed to go to UKIP. A lot of their 2010 vote was a protest against the 2 main parties, that role was filled by UKIP this time.
Labour's problem was they weren't a strong enough opposition to the Tories. Ed's strategy when he became leader seemed to be do nothing and let the coalition's unpopularity hand them victory this time.
So when he suddenly came to life in the campaign all those promises rang hollow. Labour had been almost invisible for 5 years, he'd done nothing to change the party or regain trust.
When you think you have to carve your promises in stone to get people to believe them you have a problem, it was too late ...
MrRoflWaffles
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Definitely possible. Unless there are some upsets in reasonably safe Tory seats (which doesn't look at all likely to happen for any reason whatsoever), it's a damn safe bet.
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Yes, but both of those are highly derivative of British Liberal Party factions at the same time, which is why the different evolutions are interesting.
Too many of us outspoken web browsing leftists skewing the other polls maybe. That and many undecided's actually simply not admitting they were going to vote UKIP, and others changing their mind last minute to Conservatives?
Psychotext
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When is frog face due?
It's sure looking that way.
Anyway, seen Clegg's result and Cameron as PM again is basically guaranteed, so time to call it a night and head to bed. Curious to see the final result tomorrow. Can't say I'm happy with the outcome but oh well, it is what it is and it's been a night and election for the history books if nothing else. Never would've seen this coming.
Night all! It's been fun.
Exit polls have been wrong before. I'm specifically thinking of the 1992 GE which predicted a hung parliament/lLabour majority, and it ended up being a Con win.
I'm glad I'm not there anymore if the Tories get back in for another 5 years. Country'll be fucked by the time they're finished with it.
I'm glad I'm not there anymore if the Tories get back in for another 5 years. Country'll be fucked by the time they're finished with it.
Sir_Crocodile
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Can't be, plenty of phone polls were carried out too, and I don't recall ever seeing anything like this.
IdreamofHIME
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Charles Kennedy is gonna need a drink.
Delusibeta
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You might be right, in the opposite direction of what you're thinking: the exit polls underestimating the Tories.
Can't be, plenty of phone polls were carried out too, and I don't recall ever seeing anything like this.
So what then? I'm genuinely curious as to why such a big discrepancy exists.
Sir_Crocodile
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I'd have expected Kennedy to lead the party again, but it's going to be hard for them to recover from this without him in the commons.
Black Republican
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anyone in the libdem wings to take over, yeah clegg is pretty much done
MrRoflWaffles
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Miliband's seat up now. Hands hanging by his sides as per usual.
Delusibeta
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Shy Tories rides again.
fizzelopeguss
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I fucking love the monster raving loony party.
MrRoflWaffles
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Miliband holds on with 20,708 votes.
Look at that smile.
Look at that smile.
Sir_Crocodile
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No idea, people ashamed of saying they voting tory when asked? Can't be the SNP tactic, they'd been using that for a while without the polls moving.
Sir_Crocodile
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Glad to hear that Douglas Alexander lost his seat. No word about balls yet?
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