Scousefury
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Another labour leader outsider would be my mp Luciana Berger
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May 7th | UK General Election 2015 OT - Please go vote!
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Gonna be real interesting.
The tory government was good for me so I should vote for a labour government Instead. Ok whatever.
electroshockwave
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The Lib Dems didn't feel like the scapegoats to me. They (rightfully) got the blame from the left for helping the Cons with austerity and the Health and Social Care Act etc. but they aren't seen as the architects of those policies. So I don't think they've been scapegoated for them any more than they were given credit for the supposed economic recovery.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
I'm sure that whatever consultancy gig he's got now is paying at least 5x as much as he would receive if he were PM.
i care because the tories are getting away with lying through their teeth, constantly, to the electorate, while running the country into the ground economically and socially
In what way, if you don't mind my asking? Sorry if you are repeating yourself.
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Very curious to hear how cons being in office has benefited you directly. Employment wise, did you get an apprenticeship or if you're running a business, tax cuts?
It's always interesting to hear how these kinds of things affect a normal person's voting habit.
I can appreciate why you voted the way you did. Hell I've been doing well over the years too (young entrepreneur here). I personally stand to gain a lot more from Conservatives ironically enough. But sometimes it's about more than what has or will benefit just you or me, and rather what has or hasn't, and will or will not benefit those less fortunate than us, and who still have yet to work their way up. Whilst you may have done better in the last 5 years, the fact is, so many haven't. Homelessness up massively, so many disabled people suffering, more people using food banks etc etc. You can ignore that and concentrate on only your own successes, or you can look at things more selflessly and think more to the benefit of those that are the most marginalised or most at risk.
But it's my vote. It's not your concern.
Fucked it. Totally.
Jesus Christ, 5 more years of a Tory government. In hindsight, they knew *exactly* what they were doing partnering with the Lib Dems. Destroying all credibility that the "alternative party" had, and decimating the number of seats they would normally get. I just can't understand the mentality of people who would previously have voted LD that now voted Tory. It breaks me.
Jesus Christ, 5 more years of a Tory government. In hindsight, they knew *exactly* what they were doing partnering with the Lib Dems. Destroying all credibility that the "alternative party" had, and decimating the number of seats they would normally get. I just can't understand the mentality of people who would previously have voted LD that now voted Tory. It breaks me.
Scousefury
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Osborne's real budget is going to be exploding with massive cuts, i expect strikes a plenty by november
Well aren't the Tories ecstatic they have economically illiterate people like rely on.
okay, well i'm sorry that you're not more concerned about the fact that the tory party has been lying to you for the last five years, that those lies are the foundation of their victory yesterday, and that for millions of people in your country for the next five years the quality of life is set to drop dramatically as a result
Scotland in a few years. I mean, their language is close to ours so I'm sure you'll pick it up.
People don't understand stuff. You can spin a completely shit fact to sound amazing, like Cameron stating that things have improved since they took over (no shit ! That's how recovery works), and that they have had the highest growth rate out of any western nation (a growth rate around 1% is nothing to brag about but it is if you spin it that way).
Austerity does not works but for someone who doesn't understands stuff it looks like Labour fucked everything up and Tories salvaged things when it really is just time healing wounds and the reality being Tories have slowed it down rather than achieved any progress.
They'll change the law for that undemocratic minimum turnout to make legal strikes basically impossible
Mr. Luchador
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I still find it utterly mad that SNP can have 50+ seats even though they have less votes than UKIP and Greens. I guess the trouble is if they turn to popular vote, how do they decide who represents where.
Ok. "Tory government was good for me" was the wrong wording. "My lifestyle during the period with tory power was good" is more fitting.
I have had plenty of job opportunities, my income has increased a lot, I am saving for the first time (for a mortgage). The tories have been in power during this so I'm not gonna vote them out on the back of potentially empty labour promises.
As said before, if suddenly my lifestyle during the next five years go to shit, taxes increase, jobs decrease etc etc then I will gladly vote the tories out.
...in your opinion
Frankly, this is all just conjecture until it plays out.
AHA-Lambda
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Fuck that, I won't go through that shitshow again >_>
Randomizer
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Norway, Sweden or Finland they all have a decent percentage of English speakers.
Frozen fuel duty, reduced taxes, benefits for savers, improved economy giving me better job opportunities in my industry resulting in > 2x my original salary. And now I'm buying a house soon, the new benefits for first time buyers.
Sir_Crocodile
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Scotland are pretty insulated from this, especially after the settlement is done
more like PFI NHS
I meant on Europe
Yup, I think some of you got up too early after staying up late. Have a nice breakfast and spot of tea and breathe. Even if the country got the best/worst result, you won't know for a good few years, so breathe it in.
AHA-Lambda
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Ah right, yeah I agree on that.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Pretty interesting seeing people holding a party accountable for their economic history 5 years after their departure. In the US, it was Obama's economy about 6 months into his Presidency and everyone had already forgotten about Republicans.
brain_stew
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I do wonder if that large block of Lib Dem to Tory swing voters truly know what they've signed up for.
I'm not attacking you, but I am genuinely curious. Will you be judging the merits of your party choice based purely on your own successes, or do you also care about the living standards of those more at risk and considerably less well off?
Mr. Luchador
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My wife is utterly gutted, she's convinced this is going to lead to something terrible. We were planning on starting a family very soon, so I can understand why she's worried about the NHS and Nursery support.
Who would've though, our country has people more backward than the Republicans in America.
electroshockwave
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But what have the Tories done that contributed to your good lifestyle? As of right now you're describing a rock that keeps away tigers.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Have Labour apologists started with the "those fucking SNP cost us, we could have won!!11!!" narrative yet?
Because if so, fuck them. There's a reason why we rejected Labour, and they will need to learn that lesson if they are ever to claim more than a handful of seats in Scotland ever again.
That and even if everyone in Scotland had voted Labour, I doubt it would have changed the outcome of the night. Just like in 2010.
Because if so, fuck them. There's a reason why we rejected Labour, and they will need to learn that lesson if they are ever to claim more than a handful of seats in Scotland ever again.
That and even if everyone in Scotland had voted Labour, I doubt it would have changed the outcome of the night. Just like in 2010.
MrRoflWaffles
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I think this is a good point for me to call it a night.
Been a fun first election, GAF. Wonder if I'll wake up to a Tory majority or not. We shall see. G'night folks.
European referendum is going to be awful. Lots of utter fearing mongering tripe is going to be spouted by ukip and other uninformed idiots and they are likely to sway the now obviously stupid public to leave Europe 
Sad sad day for English politics. People will look back in 5 years and realise what madness it was to vote a majority Tory government.
Sad sad day for English politics. People will look back in 5 years and realise what madness it was to vote a majority Tory government.
Jezbollah
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Lower taxes. Increased my personal allowance. Help to buy (means I have to save a smaller deposit).
I'm past justifying myself now. I'm sorry your party of choice did not win. better luck next time.
FortuneFaded
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Well it was Labour that brought the global recession, apparently.
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You're a big guy.
Whatever your affiliation this election shows that fptp is broken.
I haven't read such posts, but why did you reject Labour? Surely you appreciate that in the votes being aligned the way they are, Scotland has essentially just further enabled the Tories?
Absobloodyexactly. AV kinda sucked but I hope we get an opportunity for the implementation of some form of PR down the line.
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