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[Tak3n]

I'm not attacking you, but I am genuinely curious. Will you be judging the merits of your party choice based purely on your own successes, or do you also care about the living standards of those more at risk and considerably less well off?

I can not remember who said it last night, but they said that they think this swing happened as people walked into the polling booth and thought who will I be better off under, and as the Tories said no tax rises for the whole of the parliament, they felt that would of resonated greatly....


In that case it would suggest people vote as what is best for them, not necessarily the country

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

EU referendum will gut the UK.

 

[anonymous_abc]

EU referendum will gut the UK.

It will leave scorched earth...

 

[Randomizer]

Have Labour apologists started with the "those fucking SNP cost us, we could have won!!11!!" narrative yet?

Because if so, fuck them. There's a reason why we rejected Labour, and they will need to learn that lesson if they are ever to claim more than a handful of seats in Scotland ever again.

That and even if everyone in Scotland had voted Labour, I doubt it would have changed the outcome of the night. Just like in 2010.

That's been their spin from the start of this. Scotland's vote had no effect as usual, it's the English voters at fault. Terrible for the rest of us who really have no say in the matter but get stuck with their horrendous policies.

 

[War Peaceman]

Absobloodyexactly. AV kinda sucked but I hope we get an opportunity for the implementation of some form of PR down the line.

Yeah av was a bad choice but I feel it would have opened the floodgates.alas.

 

[MisterFalcon]

I think the polls didn't see how badly the Lib Dems would get mauled as the junior member of the coalition government as Britian hasn't had a coalition in ages. They get both the bad things about being in government (being blamed for everything) and being in opposition (most of their plans don't get implemented) and got murdered at the ballot box. This has happened several times in Holland with D66 who got to be in coalitions as the smallest party four times. Three times they got halved at the next election to start the cycle in opposition again.

 

[Ding-Ding]

Recount in Ed Balls seat.

This would be the icing on the cake

 

[iMax]

EU referendum will gut the UK.

If we get a Yes vote to that, we're utterly fucked. Y'all should read UKIP's proposed referendum question, by the way. Leading as shit.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

wow Conservatives got a majority? Thats amazing.

 

[kitch9]

okay, well i'm sorry that you're not more concerned about the fact that the tory party has been lying to you for the last five years, that those lies are the foundation of their victory yesterday, and that for millions of people in your country for the next five years the quality of life is set to drop dramatically as a result

My god fella. Chill, if the sky falls in like you think it will they will get voted out.

The sky won't fall in, nothing really will change. Things will carry on.

Labour weren't planning a spending spree, they would have had decisions to make. The mansion tax and 50p rate wouldn't have made a dent or even begun to solve the problems we face.

 

[War Peaceman]

I haven't read such posts, but why did you reject Labour? Surely you appreciate that in the votes being aligned the way they are, Scotland has essentially just further enabled the Tories?

Nah they voted for an effective ruling party. It was an easy choice for Scotland even for no voters. Don't blame Scots for voting for a party that appeals to their interests and rules effectively

 

[Lucius86]

These presenters are coherent somehow this morning. I am impressed.

 

[blazeuk]

European referendum is going to be awful. Lots of utter fearing mongering tripe is going to be spouted by ukip and other uninformed idiots and they are likely to sway the now obviously stupid public to leave Europe

The country will probably vote out when it happens, there's a reason why the main parties have been so reluctant to have a referendum, they know there's a very good chance of us leaving.

 

[Daffy Duck]

Conservative hold here, no surprises, but ukip were second!

That's a surprise.

 

[Oemenia]

If we get a Yes vote to that, we're utterly fucked. Y'all should read UKIP's proposed referendum question, by the way. Leading as shit.

You should respect the will of the people, that includes if the layman and simpleton are influenced by outlight lies and scaremongering propaganda.

 

[Black Republican]

Really hope tution fees come down somehow. Just too High for the average person

 

[Ashes]

Ok. "Tory government was good for me" was the wrong wording. "My lifestyle during the period with tory power was good" is more fitting.

I have had plenty of job opportunities, my income has increased a lot, I am saving for the first time (for a mortgage). The tories have been in power during this so I'm not gonna vote them out on the back of potentially empty labour promises.

As said before, if suddenly my lifestyle during the next five years go to shit, taxes increase, jobs decrease etc etc then I will gladly vote the tories out.

You mean during the Coalition era. But fair enough.

Interesting note about the empty promises. What I'm now wondering is which fiscal pledge made by the Tories in 2010 was met that has you so convinced that they will deliver again?

 

[twobear]

My god fella. Chill, if the sky falls in like you think it will they will get voted out.

i mean, we have plenty of history to indicate that this is completely false

The sky won't fall in, nothing really will change.

again, plenty of recent history to suggest that tory majorities mean lots of change

You should respect the will of the people, that includes if the layman and simpleton are influenced by outlight lies and scaremongering propaganda.

it's really not fair to call people laymen and simpletons because they believed the tory propaganda machine over the last five years. with the bbc not daring to question the lies fed to them by whitehall, and the newspapers in the pockets of the tories, where else were they supposed to get information from?

 

[War Peaceman]

Really hope tution fees come down somehow. Just too High for the average person

Well strap in because the opposite is about to happen.

 

[Randomizer]

Really hope tution fees come down somehow. Just too High for the average person

Didn't they already say that wanted to up them to £12,000 per year?

 

[kmag]

Really hope tution fees come down somehow. Just too High for the average person

They're only going one way....

 

[ZombieFred]

These presenters are coherent somehow this morning. I am impressed.

I agree, I fucking love the professor guy behind the exit poll. I love that man, he looks fucking off his rocker.

 

[industrian]

My wife is utterly gutted, she's convinced this is going to lead to something terrible. We were planning on starting a family very soon, so I can understand why she's worried about the NHS and Nursery support.

Move to Scotland.

Surely you appreciate that in the votes being aligned the way they are, Scotland has essentially just further enabled the Tories?

The SNP took 40 seats from Labour. Does adding those 40 seats back to Labour magically grant them a majority?

 

[Daemul]

Bet you're glad you voted No, eh Scotland?

Fuck. Fucking Tory fucks. It wasn't meant to be this way...

Scotland are pretty insulated from this, especially after the settlement is done

Yeah, we'll be alright. England on the other hand....

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EDIT: The EU vote worries me though, especially after tonight's results down south. I don't know if I can trust people not to be so easily swayed by the bullshit that will be spouted in the lead up to it.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

My wife is utterly gutted, she's convinced this is going to lead to something terrible. We were planning on starting a family very soon, so I can understand why she's worried about the NHS and Nursery support.

My aunt and dad are doctors in the NHS and they were saying that Labour would of been a bad choice. The NHS is at breaking point (at their hospitals) since there aren't enough resources to meet up with demand. Part privatisation incoming?

 

[Tak3n]

Really hope tution fees come down somehow. Just too High for the average person

Much more likely to increase I am afraid.

 

[jonno394]

You mean during the Coalition era. But fair enough.

Interesting note about the empty promises. What I'm now wondering is which fiscal pledge made by the Tories in 2010 was met that has you so convinced that they will deliver again?

None. I'm basing it on my personal experience during the last five years and givingthenm the benefit of the doubt this time and if that backfires then I'll vote anti tory next time.

 

[iMax]

You should respect the will of the people, that includes if the layman and simpleton are influenced by outlight lies and scaremongering propaganda.

Of course. Britain has earned the right to decide its membership to the EU, considering it never has. But, as much as I defend the people's right, I won't dictate what they should do.

 

[Hasney]

I have a terrible memory, but was there this much count fuckery before? Ed Balls being recounted, both Stoke districts have gone a bit weird, South Thanet hasn't gone smooth either.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Leaving the EU:
-Looser regulations on employee rights and worker conditions.
-Looser financial regulations.
-Put the clamps on individual rights.

All of those nice freedoms and individual security and safety will go out the door. There is no benefit to leaving the EU for an individual Briton. I wish the fear mongering wasn't allowed to be broadcast. People are stupid when their numbers grow. EU citizens add to the economy more than they take out, why else do people think big businesses and politicians were in favour of it in the first place.

 

[Hellers]

Guys. If the Tories do end up with a majority (And the BBC are currently predicting 1 under) they're not going to have much of one which severely limits their ability to get things done (See John Major). I think the best politician is one that can't actually do anything so it's not all terrible

Don't lose hope though. The issue we have now is there's a lot of people who've never seen a full on Tory government. They've forgotten or never seen the really bad times (Just like I was too young to remember the bad times under labour before them). At some point it'll turn around again and we'll have a new set of bell ends in charge.

And just maybe this will push Labour back to the left and I could feel comfortable voting for them again (I'm in a safe labour seat. I spoiled my ballot)

 

[iMax]

I have a terrible memory, but was there this much count fuckery before? Ed Balls being recounted, both Stoke districts have gone a bit weird, South Thanet hasn't gone smooth either.

South Thanet has only just started its count. It's bizarre.

 

[Broken Joystick]

These presenters are coherent somehow this morning. I am impressed.

A bunch of us at Winchester Uni reported on this throughout the night and we're wondering how these presenters stay awake at their age.

 

[kmag]

Tories now in the interesting position of having to pay for the unfunded crap they promised. I mean I know they won't, they'll just quietly drop policy after policy, but hopefully Labour can muster a half decent ability to call them out on it.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Really hope tution fees come down somehow. Just too High for the average person

As student I can understand but we have student finance. I saw what some American universities charge and its insane

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

I have a terrible memory, but was there this much count fuckery before? Ed Balls being recounted, both Stoke districts have gone a bit weird, South Thanet hasn't gone smooth either.

Yes, there's always this kind of thing somewhere.

 

[Jezbollah]

I have a terrible memory, but was there this much count fuckery before? Ed Balls being recounted, both Stoke districts have gone a bit weird, South Thanet hasn't gone smooth either.

It's actually been quite smooth. Last time around there were a few seats that didnt get declared for over 15 hours after polling closed..

 

[Lucius86]

Its funny how many Labour voters here accused the Tories of scare-mongering with the economy and the SNP...

And here they are scare-mongering the country is doomed now for all eternity.

 

[DECK'ARD]

Absobloodyexactly. AV kinda sucked but I hope we get an opportunity for the implementation of some form of PR down the line.

Well that's never going to come from a Tory Government.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Tories now in the interesting position of having to pay for the unfunded crap they promised. I mean I know they won't, they'll just quietly drop policy after policy, but hopefully Labour can muster a half decent ability to call them out on it.

Labour won't be doing much for the next 3 months except brutally putting one another to the sword.

 

[brain_stew]

Looking at my own strong Labour seat of Easington really shows how the Lib Dems have utterly collapsed in the north and how UKIP are now the clear opposition.

Lib Dems were the number 2 party last go around with nearly 6K votes. On a higher voter turnout they dropped to less than 1K votes with only 2.4% of the vote share. Even the Tory vote dropped securing fewer votes on a higher turnout despite this being a great night for them nationally. UKIP secured 19% of the vote and are now the main opposition party. It's equal parts fascinating and terrifying.

 

[kess]

Do we need to? At the end of the day I voted tories because I agreed with more policies of theirs than the others. I also voted for them due to the fact my lifestyle over the past five years has improved considerable and as the tories were in power id be stupid to vote against them in this round and vote for labour.

If it goes tits up then I'll be voting labour or someone else next time.

So basically you got yours

 

[iMax]

Leaving the EU:
-Looser regulations on employee rights and worker conditions.
-Looser financial regulations.
-Put the clamps on individual rights.

All of those nice freedoms and individual security and safety will go out the door. There is no benefit to leaving the EU for an individual Briton. I wish the fear mongering wasn't allowed to be broadcast. People are stupid when their numbers grow. EU citizens add to the economy more than they take out, why else do people think big businesses and politicians were in favour of it in the first place.

Well, the business argument is incredibly important too. If I'm an American company, I can either set up shop in Britain and reach a market of 60 million, or head to Ireland and get some 400 million. FDI will just plummet.

 

[electroshockwave]

Didn't they already say that wanted to up them to £12,000 per year?

Well. part of the problem with the tuition fee caps is that in real terms universities get less every year.

It feels crazy to think that if I had been born ten years earlier I wouldn't have had any tuition fees at all and now people are coming out with £30,000 in debt.

 

[twobear]

Tories now in the interesting position of having to pay for the unfunded crap they promised. I mean I know they won't, they'll just quietly drop policy after policy, but hopefully Labour can muster a half decent ability to call them out on it.

wishful thinking, it'll be a repeat of the past five years, nary a whisper from the opposition

Its funny how many Labour voters here accused the Tories of scare-mongering with the economy and the SNP...

And here they are scare-mongering the country is doomed now for all eternity.

because running an election campaign and complaining about the result on notable internet videogame forum neogaf.com are the same thing

 

[Randomizer]

My aunt and dad are doctors in the NHS and they were saying that Labour would of been a bad choice. The NHS is at breaking point (at their hospitals) since there aren't enough resources to meet up with demand. Part privatisation incoming?

Because the Tories cut funding. All so they could backdoor private contracts in as some sort of saving grace. "The NHS is at breaking point, these private companies are just here to help lighten the load. The NHS is not under threat!"

 

[jonno394]

So basically you got yours

And my family and friends got theirs. And my colleagues all got theirs.

 

[Walshicus]

Yeah av was a bad choice but I feel it would have opened the floodgates.alas.

AV was pretty good still. Because as with all things our opinions aren't black and white - making it so people could both vote tactically and as they truly wanted would have had a huge impact.

 

[Marc]

So in summary UKGAF aren't very representative of Britain as a whole it seems, the vitriol and rhetoric isn't really panning out. Maybe instead of the pure hatred of anything other than your party it isn't quite as black and white, maybe some grey in there? Not expecting any acknowledgement on that but the stone throwing while at the same time claiming the other guys are pure evil is waaaay over the top. Yet still ongoing, calling everyone who doesn't agree with your view stupid.

The truth is politics in general is broke in Britain, they're all a shower of bastards (exceptions apply) and pretending your guy is beyond reproach has been a silly position imo.

The tories will do some things right, some things wrong and some things depressingly wrong. And I can't see any other party doing much better since they've al gravitated towards each other.



empyrean - Tories have probably won, the EU referendum will be delayed, most of them want to stay in the EU and can set the question and tone. They only made the commitment to stop losing voteshare to UKIP. It will be completely unbalanced so whatever your views on the stupidity of everyone but you, you likely won't have to worry about this issue for a while. I wouldn't be shocked if it gets completely left off the table with some patting on the head of "extended renegotiations" in the EU.

 

[War Peaceman]

Tories now in the interesting position of having to pay for the unfunded crap they promised. I mean I know they won't, they'll just quietly drop policy after policy, but hopefully Labour can muster a half decent ability to call them out on it.

It would be nice to have a proper opposition party this time.

AV was pretty good still. Because as with all things our opinions aren't black and white - making it so people could both vote tactically and as they truly wanted would have had a huge impact.

I voted for it, it would still be better and I feel with these things once you break the tradition it becomes a slippery slope to proper democratic solutions. It is completely insane to compare the vote counts of the LDs/Greens/UKIp with the SNP and then compare the respective parliamentary representation. Insane.