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[Deleted member 231381]

ITV saying Ed Balls behind by just under 300 votes after the final recount, recall officer announcing shortly.

 

[kharma45]

Its funny how many Labour voters here accused the Tories of scare-mongering with the economy and the SNP...

And here they are scare-mongering the country is doomed now for all eternity.

Exactly. The amount of hyperbolic nonsense in this thread has actually surprised me just because some didn't get the result they wanted. It's not like the DUP won all of your constituencies. Then I could understand.

 

[Tak3n]

Leaving the EU:
-Looser regulations on employee rights and worker conditions.
-Looser financial regulations.
-Put the clamps on individual rights.

All of those nice freedoms and individual security and safety will go out the door. There is no benefit to leaving the EU for an individual Briton. I wish the fear mongering wasn't allowed to be broadcast. People are stupid when their numbers grow. EU citizens add to the economy more than they take out, why else do people think big businesses and politicians were in favour of it in the first place.

Because the argument is lost, people don't care if they make a net benefit, they care when they can not get a school place, a doctors appointment, a hospital bed, etc etc....

If the pro campaign go in with that argument of a net benefit there will be a landslide....the only way to change people's opinion is to force local councils to actually build the infrastructure to cope

 

[Chinner]

So basically you got yours

Basically, fuck you, got mine

 

[Hasney]

Yes, there's always this kind of thing somewhere.

It's actually been quite smooth. Last time around there were a few seats that didnt get declared for over 15 hours after polling closed..

Ah cheers, I'm guessing it's more obvious right now as it's happening with high profile seats.

 

[iMax]

Well that's never going to come from a Tory Government.

Nope, probably not. It's in their best interests not to, after all. Frankly, I don't know why these more systematic issues aren't managed completely independently. If there's a demand for a referendum, it needs to happen—not just because some politician pledges for it.

 

[Mindwipe]

From a civil liberties view we are completely fucked.

The Tory manifesto commitment to internet censorship was terrifying :-(

 

[Ashes]

None. I'm basing it on my personal experience during the last five years and givingthenm the benefit of the doubt this time and if that backfires then I'll vote anti tory next time.

Fair enough.

I don't think the economical outlook is all that bad for someone on the payscale ascendency.

 

[nOoblet16]

Guys. If the Tories do end up with a majority (And the BBC are currently predicting 1 under) they're not going to have much of one which severely limits their ability to get things done (See John Major). I think the best politician is one that can't actually do anything so it's not all terrible

Don't lose hope though. The issue we have now is there's a lot of people who've never seen a full on Tory government. They've forgotten or never seen the really bad times (Just like I was too young to remember the bad times under labour before them). At some point it'll turn around again and we'll have a new set of bell ends in charge.

And just maybe this will push Labour back to the left and I could feel comfortable voting for them again (I'm in a safe labour seat. I spoiled my ballot)

Yea I feel like a minority rule is better than them forming a coalition and getting their numbers up in the parliament, at least this means that they will have issues passing things and won't be able to do much...Labour and SNP still having more seats than Tories and Ukip combined.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Tories now in the interesting position of having to pay for the unfunded crap they promised. I mean I know they won't, they'll just quietly drop policy after policy, but hopefully Labour can muster a half decent ability to call them out on it.

People have short memories. This kind of victory guarantees a Labour victory next time, I don't think the cons can keep the overspending argument going for 10 years.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

BBC predicting majority of 3.

Also Scotland's seats confirmed now: 58 SNP, 1 LIB, 1 LAB, 1 CON

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

Labour won't be doing much for the next 3 months except brutally putting one another to the sword.

labour? brutal?

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Because the Tories cut funding. All so they could backdoor private contracts in as some sort of saving grace. "The NHS is at breaking point, these private companies are just here to help lighten the load. The NHS is not under threat!"

I think its time the NHS started getting some returns.

 

[Lucius86]

wishful thinking, it'll be a repeat of the past five years, nary a whisper from the opposition



because running an election campaign and complaining about the result on notable internet videogame forum neogaf.com are the same thing

Are you telling me no one in the Labour party will say that, or hasn't already.

My comment was on gaffers anyway. I can see our population dropping by a third judging by the hyperbole reactions in this thread to leave the country on tonight's result.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

labour? brutal?

Have we forgotten "you knifed your brother!" so quickly?

 

[Hasney]

People have short memories. This kind of victory guarantees a Labour victory next time, I don't think the cons can keep the overspending argument going for 10 years.

Depends on the Labour leadership campaign too. If Harriet Harman gets in, I think they're fucked for this next decade. Then again, I can't really think who could possibly lead them based on the current shadow cabinet.

 

[Kinky John]

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[nib95]

The SNP took 40 seats from Labour. Does adding those 40 seats back to Labour magically grant them a majority?

No. And I'm not blaming you guys, you have every right. I was merely curious is all. I've only ever lived in England, so I'm not that familiar with the Scottish sentiment on all this. It would be nice to gain a better understanding of the reasons why SNP demolished Labour. I put it down to nationalism and fall out from the referendum.

I can not remember who said it last night, but they said that they think this swing happened as people walked into the polling booth and thought who will I be better off under, and as the Tories said no tax rises for the whole of the parliament, they felt that would of resonated greatly....


In that case it would suggest people vote as what is best for them, not necessarily the country

Oh absolutely. I think if so much of the press wasn't so slanted in favour of the Conservatives and essentially constantly spreading fud or propaganda against Labour, more poorer and working class people would realise Labour's policies do actually benefit them more, and don't actually threaten their livelihoods, and also vote accordingly. It's not too dissimilar to big factions of the South in the US, continually voting Republican, partially because of what Fox News and other right wing outlets etc continually inform them. As I said earlier, as far as votes going to UKIP, I think the fear of immigration and EU issues also played in to some voters minds fairly strongly as well.

I'm tired right now, so I could be waffling. Excuse me if I am lol.

 

[War Peaceman]

Milliband's gone btw. Not official yet but his team's resigned.

 

[kmag]

Depends on the Labour leadership campaign too. If Harriet Harman gets in, I think they're fucked for this next decade. Then again, I can't really think who could possibly lead them based on the current shadow cabinet.

People seem to rate Chukka Umuna, but frankly I've always found him pretty stilted in interviews

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Depends on the Labour leadership campaign too. If Harriet Harman gets in, I think they're fucked for this next decade. Then again, I can't really think who could possibly lead them based on the current shadow cabinet.

I don't think Harriet Harman will even stand. She's beyond the peak of her career. I expect Yvette Cooper, Sadiq Khan, Andy Burnham, Chukka Umuna and Dan Jarvis to be the main contestants.

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

Have we forgotten "you knifed your brother!" so quickly?

lol, that was like the most passive aggressive betrayal I've ever seen

I don't think Harriet Harman will even stand. She's beyond the peak of her career. I expect Yvette Cooper, Sadiq Khan, Andy Burnham, Chukka Umuna and Dan Jarvis to be the main contestants.

none of those would beat bojo. :/

 

[hepburn3d]

In that case it would suggest people vote as what is best for them, not necessarily the country

Fuck people! ... wait ... :/

So gutted. I'm angry at closet Tories more than the vocal ones. The people who vote whats best for them but will complain about the lack of support for the poor over the next few years.

*sigh*

So gutted.

 

[cyberheater]

A landslide for SNP here.

Fuck

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

My local MP is the conservative Ed Argar, just as expected.

Proof that my vote has been entirely wasted since I've been eligible to do so.

 

[DECK'ARD]

labour? brutal?

One MP called for a "blood-letting".

Labour never rebuilt themselves after defeat, they just carried on gambling on the coalition being unpopular enough to hand them victory.

The knives will come out now.

 

[Mr. Luchador]

In fairness the last 5 years I've seen a huge upturn in my own personal situation. I've landed my dream job, got married, bought our first home which we love. However, I think that's down to my own personal determination compared to anything the government has done for me (personally). So, I can understand why people might feel that a connection between their own personal upturn in life and whoever was in government at the time.

At the end of the day, it's how you manage your own situation regardless of who is in charge of the Country. I'm not being an advocate for Russel Brand, but like he said if we don't agree with something the people in charge are doing strongly, we should protest.

I guess I'll show how this all goes, plan and act accordingly. I'm not entirely worried, but then I don't have a huge interest in politics and the history they bring.

From a civil liberties view we are completely fucked.

The Tory manifesto commitment to internet censorship was terrifying :-(

Yeah, I guess that's the big concern I have at the moment.

 

[Dirtyshubb]

Ok. "Tory government was good for me" was the wrong wording. "My lifestyle during the period with tory power was good" is more fitting.

I have had plenty of job opportunities, my income has increased a lot, I am saving for the first time (for a mortgage). The tories have been in power during this so I'm not gonna vote them out on the back of potentially empty labour promises.

As said before, if suddenly my lifestyle during the next five years go to shit, taxes increase, jobs decrease etc etc then I will gladly vote the tories out.

"well, a meteorite hasn't wiped out the planet in the last 5 years so I'm voting tories".
Don't you see that your annicdotal evidence has pretty much nothing to do with the tories and more to your own personal circumstances and luck?

In the last 5 years I am in a much better situation financially yet I know that is because of my own actions and opportunities and not because the tories have done a great job governing the country because all evidence suggests otherwise.

 

[cyberheater]

One MP called for a "blood-letting".

Labour never rebuilt themselves after defeat, they just carried on gambling on the coalition being unpopular enough to hand them victory.

The knives will come out now.

Milliband needs to go.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

none of those would beat bojo. :/

I don't rate Johnson. He's fine as mayor because nobody really gives a shit about mayor, but he has too many skeletons to go further. As a Labour voter, Theresa May is the one I'm most worried about at this point.

 

[Marc]

Basically, fuck you, got mine

As opposed to Labour voters? Look at the basis of the Labour vote and you honestly think there is no selfish reasoning behind their vote? Labour have done very well in the likes of London for a reason.

Jesus Christ, people here are so blinded by their own bias it really is amazing. I haven't seen the stone throwing from the right voters such as these. Calling everyone idiots, scum, evil and all this bollocks yet they're apparently the nasty party. Get a grip.

 

[ExtremePopcorn]

None. I'm basing it on my personal experience during the last five years and givingthenm the benefit of the doubt this time and if that backfires then I'll vote anti tory next time.

I'm in the same boat as you, the Tories might not have achieved all their economic aims they set out in 2010 but at least they had some kind of economic plan and goal.

Labour didn't have a solid plan which focused on everyone, from my perspective all I heard was "rich people are bad, lets tax them" which I'm not 100% against but you need to have more when you're planning on leading the 5th largest economy in the world.

Also people seem to have some pretty big blinkers when it comes to the NHS and Labour, they were the ones who introduced PFI which is doing so much more to damage the NHS than anything the Tories have done.
As an example, Manchester Joint Hospitals, which was built under the Blair/Brown government pays £7,000,000 per month in rent which over the 35 year lease period will be £2.1bn at least.

 

[Lucius86]

Milliband needs to go.

Of course he does. And so does Ed Balls.

 

[brain_stew]

BBC predicting majority of 3.

Also Scotland's seats confirmed now: 58 SNP, 1 LIB, 1 LAB, 1 CON

I know people always mention that 1992 was a bad election for Labour but surely this now has to be seen as far worse now? After 5 years of austerity and the Lib Dem collapse, Labour should have steam rolled this election. To now have the same number of seats in Scotland as the Tories is staggering.

 

[Randomizer]

People seem to rate Chukka Umuna, but frankly I've always found him pretty stilted in interviews

I would want him just to see the typical UKIP members reaction at the thought of a Black PM lol.

 

[anonymous_abc]

I think its time the NHS started getting some returns.

No one can (or should) expect a healthcare system to be in the black.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

One MP called for a "blood-letting".

Labour never rebuilt themselves after defeat, they just carried on gambling on the coalition being unpopular enough to hand them victory.

The knives will come out now.

They need to fire everyone.

 

[DECK'ARD]

Milliband needs to go.

He'll be gone by lunch.

 

[jonno394]

"well, a meteorite hasn't wiped out the planet in the last 5 years so I'm voting tories".
Don't you see that your annicdotal evidence has pretty much nothing to do with the tories and more to your own personal circumstances and luck?

In the last 5 years I am in a much better situation financially yet I know that is because of my own actions and opportunities and not because the tories have done a great job governing the country because all evidence suggests otherwise.

If it ain't broke don't fix it. The system wasn't bad for me so why risk it by voting on labour?

 

[iMax]

As opposed to Labour voters? Look at the basis of the Labour vote and you honestly think there is no selfish reasoning behind their vote? Labour have done very well in the likes of London for a reason.

Jesus Christ, people here are so blinded by their own bias it really is amazing. I haven't seen the stone throwing from the right voters such as these. Calling everyone idiots, scum, evil and all this bollocks yet they're apparently the nasty party. Get a grip.

Glad it's not just me who's noticed this!

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

I know people always mention that 1992 was a bad election for Labour but surely this now has to be seen as far worse now? After 5 years of austerity and the Lib Dem collapse, Labour should have steam rolled this election. To now have the same number of seats in Scotland as the Tories is staggering.

I really don't find it surprising.

The SNP are the only decent alternative up there.

 

[War Peaceman]

I'm in the same boat as you, the Tories might not have achieved all their economic aims they set out in 2010 but at least they had some kind of economic plan and goal.

Labour didn't have a solid plan which focused on everyone, from my perspective all I heard was "rich people are bad, lets tax them" which I'm not 100% against but you need to have more when you're planning on leading the 5th largest economy in the world.

Did you read the manifestos?

The Labour one was infamously a very economically driven, tory-style fiscal responsibility approach. What are you are saying is contrary to reality.

(I agree with the parts of your post I edited out, fuck new labour)

 

[industrian]

I'm so glad that Lamont didn't become my MP.

I feel conflicted about Michael Moore. He came across as an alright guy - and was possible leadership material for the Lib Dems - but he must have known from day one of the Tory-LD Coalition that this would happen.

I hope to hell that Calum Kerr can help Galashiels and the surrounding areas get out of the godawful slump they're in. Even though my feelings about living in the Borders is mixed, Borderers deserve better than the ghost towns that we now call home.

 

[schlongdog]

I'm just terrified for the NHS. Terrified.

 

[Rush_Khan]

This is all Ed's fault. No one wants to vote for a loser.

 

[Succinct Verbosity]

You don't just have to look at Scotland to see how bad Milliband's team has been... In Wales, which has far less opposition that Scotland, has performed terribly. There is no way Labour can gain power without Wales, let alone Scotland.

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

I don't rate Johnson. He's fine as mayor because nobody really gives a shit about mayor, but he has too many skeletons to go further. As a Labour voter, Theresa May is the one I'm most worried about at this point.

Yeah, still being home secretary after all these years is astounding in a job generally seen as a graveyard.

The Tory leadership contest - and when and how it happens - will be very interesting to see.

 

[kitch9]

The country will probably vote out when it happens, there's a reason why the main parties have been so reluctant to have a referendum, they know there's a very good chance of us leaving.

Yep, democracy is only good when people do the right thing.

If they don't it's useless and stuff needs throwing.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Also, I've beaten Boris at poker so he's clearly not that astute.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Milliband needs to go.

Replaced by his brother

No one can (or should) expect a healthcare system to be in the black.

Definitely but some returns to offset increasing costs.