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PhoenixDark · Sep 15, 2006

mckmas8808 said:
O_O DS no momentum

More like dead in the water. Looks like people are waiting for the touchscreen PSP2 to me.

Dalthien · Sep 15, 2006

sonycowboy said:
Was this the first week of the Japanese PS2 price drop?

Does that have as much effect in Japan as it normally does in the US? (although, retailers can be slow to act and could easily take a good couple of weeks to get out to consumers)

The price drop is supposed to take effect on Sept 15 - so that would be next week's chart. However, it is a fairly small price drop. The PS2 is open price right now, but can be found for about 17,800 yen. The official price drop will be priced at 16,000 yen, so it is only about a 10% price drop. I wouldn't expect much of a sustained long-term boost to sales, but it will be interesting to keep an eye out for it, because the PS2 has been hovering around 20k per week for much of 2006.

apujanata · Sep 15, 2006

PhoenixDark said:
More like dead in the water. Looks like people are waiting for the touchscreen PSP2 to me.

Well, Sony should provide screen protector from the go if they release touchscreen PSP2 (since they don't have the second screen that will act as screen protector while the machine is off).

Slurpy · Sep 15, 2006

Does this mean Nintendo is going 6th party?

Clever Pun · Sep 15, 2006

Slurpy said:
Does this mean Nintendo is going 6th party?

yes, they will build the keyboards for the companies that research for marketing firms that work for third party game developers.

Doogdogg · Sep 15, 2006

Calm before the storm. Enjoy the good weather the next two weeks while ya can.

Rock_Man · Sep 15, 2006

Dengeki:

PSP SW - 9.71 million
DS SW - 35.7 million

PSP HW - 3.92 million
DS HW - 10.51 million

PSP tie ratio - 2.48
DS tie ratio - 3.40

max-pain · Sep 15, 2006

Rock_Man said:
Dengeki:

PSP SW - 9.71 million
DS SW - 35.7 million

PSP HW - 3.92 million
DS HW - 10.51 million

PSP tie ratio - 2.48
DS tie ratio - 3.40

Thanks!

Azelover · Sep 15, 2006

It's the usual quiet before the storm tradition for DS. Remember the week prior to Nintendogs? And this isn't even that bad, still outselling all systems combined.

donny2112 · Sep 15, 2006

donny2112 said:
Since the DS launched in the U.S. and Japan:

NDS: 16.73 million
GBA (in timespan): 10.84 million
PSP: 8.99 million

From here, it seems that NOE is saying that 6 million DSs are sold "in Europe alone." That makes 22.7 million in the three major territories alone. For reference, the last we heard for PSP in Europe a couple of months ago was 4.5 million.

Frankfurter · Sep 15, 2006

donny2112 said:
From here, it seems that NOE is saying that 6 million DSs are sold "in Europe alone." That makes 22.7 million in the three major territories alone. For reference, the last we heard for PSP in Europe a couple of months ago was 4.5 million.

More like ~three weeks ago

Square2005 · Sep 15, 2006

donny2112 said:
From here, it seems that NOE is saying that 6 million DSs are sold "in Europe alone." That makes 22.7 million in the three major territories alone. For reference, the last we heard for PSP in Europe a couple of months ago was 4.5 million.

Yeah, that's what I hav as of the end of August:

JP - 10.55m
NA - 6.25m
PAL - 5.98m
WW - 22.78m

Moor-Angol · Sep 15, 2006

Barf_the_Mog said:
On a similar note, what ever happened to Big Brain Academy? It was surging along with Brain Training (and for a time BT2?), but then it just hit a roadblock and it fell off of the charts. What up wit dat?

Last report is 1.265.658 on Aug 6, but i'm waiting for next Famitsu DS issue to see how much it sold in august

donny2112 · Sep 15, 2006

Frankfurter said:
More like ~three weeks ago

Thanks.

That puts the sell-through in the three major territories at about ...

NDS: 22.7 million
PSP: 13.5 million

Moor-Angol · Sep 15, 2006

ethelred said:
I wish there were LTDs on Rune Factory and Valhalla Knights (not to mention Naruto RPG 3 and a few other games).

According to Famitsu:

Naruto RPG 3: 49.779 (since Aug 6)
Rune Factory: 58.388 (still in top30)
Valhalla Knights: 14.089 (but it's the first week release, remember Famitsu chart is about 2 weeks ago)

Kurosaki Ichigo · Sep 15, 2006

I can't find the figures in 2ch but unconfirmed first day sales from sinobi...

Minna no Tennis >100k first day...may crawl 500k ltd.
Kenshin 120-150k for the week?
Ridge Racers 2 just 30k at most for the week? Bomba?

Meh...I just posted this so if someone saw the figures they would share...

Xzbeat · Sep 15, 2006

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
I can't find the figures in 2ch but unconfirmed first day sales from sinobi...

Minna no Tennis >100k first day...may crawl 500k ltd.
Kenshin 120-150k for the week?
Ridge Racers 2 just 30k at most for the week? Bomba?

Meh...I just posted this so if someone saw the figures they would share...

Wow! If true RR2 bombed hard.

heidern · Sep 15, 2006

Xzbeat said:
Wow! If true RR2 bombed hard.

What what? I thought 30000 sold was the measure of success for a game in Japan. Or at least thats what that guy was banging on about the past couple of months.

Neomoto · Sep 15, 2006

heidern said:
What what? I thought 30000 sold was the measure of success for a game in Japan. Or at least thats what that guy was banging on about the past couple of months.

I believe it was 300.000 instead of 30.000..

mckmas8808 · Sep 15, 2006

Slurpy said:
Does this mean Nintendo is going 6th party?

:lol

Mrbob · Sep 15, 2006

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
I can't find the figures in 2ch but unconfirmed first day sales from sinobi...

Minna no Tennis >100k first day...may crawl 500k ltd.
Kenshin 120-150k for the week?
Ridge Racers 2 just 30k at most for the week? Bomba?

Meh...I just posted this so if someone saw the figures they would share...

Go go Hot Shots Tennis go!

Moor-Angol · Sep 15, 2006

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Ridge Racers 2 just 30k at most for the week? Bomba?

not so bad i think... 30k first day means around 50k for first week, not a bad result, we are talking about PSP games and we all know only Monster Hunter titles can sell more than 500k on PSP

Deleted member 13876 · Sep 15, 2006

Curse you Namco.

A) Stop remaking ToP (this marks the 4th time)
B) Stop randomly dissing Europe, can't we get another non-remade Tales game anytime soon?

Kurosaki Ichigo · Sep 16, 2006

Moor-Angol said:
not so bad i think... 30k first day means around 50k for first week, not a bad result, we are talking about PSP games and we all know only Monster Hunter titles can sell more than 500k on PSP

Ehm...sorry? 30k at most for the week is what I understood in sinobi's post
If Phantasia opens with 66k and Ridge Racers 2 just 30k...thats not good at all.

For the record, Phantasia 4th-version PSP opened higher than Phantasia 3rd-version GBA. Phantasia recollection numbers:

　▼　Tales of Phantasia 95.12.15 SFC 84,373 48,001 - 248,879 33.90 %
　▼　Tales of Phantasia 98.12.23 PS 267,543 109,370 61,808 550,394 48.62 %
　※　Tales of Phantasia（The Best!） 00.09.28 PS - - - 81,510
　▼　Tales of Phantasia 03.08.01 GBA 55,970 21,327 13,304 134,608 41.58 %
　▼　Tales of Phantasia Full Voice Edition 06.09.07 PSP 66.000

Moor-Angol · Sep 16, 2006

oh.. well... yes, you're right, 30k for the week is bomba... i thought you meant 30k on first day sales

30k means it sold same as RR6 on 360 did *_*

LanceStern · Sep 16, 2006

It is 300,000 not 30,000

RaijinFY · Sep 16, 2006

LanceStern said:
It is 300,000 not 30,000

No, It's 30k.

verplant · Sep 16, 2006

Moor-Angol said:
Last report is 1.265.658 on Aug 6, but i'm waiting for next Famitsu DS issue to see how much it sold in august

Aug 6? july top 100?

can you give me a link of the famitsu chart july?

jarrod · Sep 16, 2006

30k? Man, that's even worse than I'd imagined possible. It might as well have been on 360. :/

Earthstrike · Sep 17, 2006

So wait did we ever get hardware for this week?

RaijinFY · Sep 17, 2006

Earthstrike said:
So wait did we ever get hardware for this week?

DSL 113,831
PSP 29,141
PS2 19,882
GBASP 2,104
GBM 1,801
Xbox360 1,094
DS 1,058
GC 696
GBA 13
Xbox 5

Frankfurter · Sep 17, 2006

Just thought I'd post that:

YTD PSP 2006: 1,285,484
YTD PSP 2005 (same amount of weeks): 1,215,219

YTD DS/DSL 2006: 5.242.456 (!!!)
YTD DS 2005: 1.626.116

PSP is now 70k ahead of its 2005 performance at the same point, but it will lose most of that in the next two weeks (last year we saw the release of the white PSP and WE9 PSP) with sales of nearly 121k in two weeks in 2005.
DS on the other hand is on track to sell sth. like 7.5m or more - basically every single unit Nintendo will ship :lol

Moor-Angol · Sep 17, 2006

verplant said:
Aug 6? july top 100?

can you give me a link of the famitsu chart july?

not top100, it's Famitsu DS magazine, i was in Japan this summer and i bought both July and August issues and you can find top20 monthly chart.

Anyway, i checked again and Yawaraka was not in the chart, so the last data we have is from jan-jun 2006 chart. My mistake, sorry!

JoshuaJSlone · Sep 17, 2006

Original DS was going down, down down... 1159. 934. 712. 410. 320. 1058. Wha? How did that happen? Did they find some between the couch cushions?

Days late and dollars short, but the usual.

GBASP at 27 weeks: 1.50M
DSL at 27 weeks: 4.15M
Time for GBASP to reach 4.15M: 84 weeks

"GBA after SP" at 27 weeks: 404K
"DS after DSL" at 27 weeks: 479K
Time for "GBA after SP" to reach 479K: 36 weeks

DS at 27 weeks: 2.44M
PSP at 27 weeks: 1.42M
GBM at 27 weeks: 463K

cvxfreak · Sep 17, 2006

Looks like the GBA after SP will overtake DS after DSL pretty soon. Understandably so, since the DSL is, as a product, closer to the original DS as a product in terms of price and features. This is unlike the original GBA, which could have further enticed people based on its horizontal layout, use of batteries and considerably lower price.

ethelred · Sep 17, 2006

cvxfreak said:
Looks like the GBA after SP will overtake DS after DSL pretty soon. Understandably so, since the DSL is, as a product, closer to the original DS as a product in terms of price and features. This is unlike the original GBA, which could have further enticed people based on its horizontal layout, use of batteries and considerably lower price.

Standard batteries are enticing? :/

Lithium-ion all the way.

Yoshi · Sep 17, 2006

cvxfreak said:
Looks like the GBA after SP will overtake DS after DSL pretty soon. Understandably so, since the DSL is, as a product, closer to the original DS as a product in terms of price and features. This is unlike the original GBA, which could have further enticed people based on its horizontal layout, use of batteries and considerably lower price.

I think having no DS' available could be a factor, too, couldn't it

?

cvxfreak · Sep 17, 2006

Yoshi said:
I think having no DS' available could be a factor, too, couldn't it ?

Yeah, but the fact that Nintendo's stopped mass producing them much earlier than with the GBA tells a lot too, right?

ethelred said:
Standard batteries are enticing? :/

Lithium-ion all the way.

I'm pretty sure for people who don't play a lot and want to save the $35 or whatever by not getting the SP, it might be something they can just deal with. *shrugs*

verplant · Sep 17, 2006

Moor-Angol said:
not top100, it's Famitsu DS magazine, i was in Japan this summer and i bought both July and August issues and you can find top20 monthly chart.

Anyway, i checked again and Yawaraka was not in the chart, so the last data we have is from jan-jun 2006 chart. My mistake, sorry!

That's what i have:

Topseller Japan (Famitsu data)

1. Animal Crossing: Wild World Nintendo NDS 3.159.471 * 03.09.2006
2. Brain Age 2 Nintendo NDS 3.129.312 * 03.09.2006
3. New Super Mario Bros. Nintendo NDS 2.940.867 * 03.09.2006
4. Brain Age: Train Your Brain [= Dr. Kawashima] Nintendo NDS 2.713.628 * 03.09.2006
5. Mario Kart DS Nintendo NDS 1.536.124 * 03.09.2006
6. English Training DS Nintendo NDS 1.293.643 * 03.09.2006
7. Nintendogs (alle 3 Versionen) Nintendo NDS 1.289.071 02.07.2006
8. Big Brain Academy Nintendo NDS 1.265.658 25.06.2006
9. Tamagotchi no PuchiPuchi Omisecchi Bandai NDS 1.100.051 25.06.2006
10. Sawaru! Made in Wario Nintendo NDS 973.289 25.06.2006
11. Super Mario 64 DS Nintendo NDS 924.256 25.06.2006
12. Tetris DS Nintendo NDS 812.590 * 03.09.2006
13. Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon: Aoi no Kyuujotai Nintendo NDS 731.813 25.06.2006
14. Monster Hunter Portable Capcom PSP 658.177 09.07.2006
15. Pokemon Rangers: Diamond-Pearl eno Michi Nintendo NDS 582.024 23.07.2006
16. Final Fantasy III Square Enix NDS 553.924 * 03.09.2006
17. Jump Superstars Nintendo NDS 543.884 25.06.2006
18. Daredemo Asobi Taizen Nintendo NDS 542.897 25.06.2006
19. Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisetchi Gohiikini Bandai NDS 454.139 * 03.09.2006
20. Shaberu! DS Oryouri Navi Nintendo NDS 442.121 * 03.09.2006
21. Everybody's Golf Portable Sony PSP 399.161 25.12.2005
22. Mario & Luigi RPG 2 Nintendo NDS 393.775 25.06.2006
23. Pokemon Dash Nintendo NDS 348.285 25.12.2005
24. Dynasty Warriors Koei PSP 333.223 25.12.2005
25. Ridge Racers Namco PSP 308.675 25.12.2005
26. Brain Training Portable Sega PSP 296.521 25.06.2006
27. Pokemon Torouze Nintendo NDS 293.438 25.06.2006
28. Slime Morimori Dragon Quest 2 Square Enix NDS 290.668 25.06.2006
29. Seiken Densetsu DS: Children of Mana Square Enix NDS 280.377 25.06.2006
30. Touch! Kirby Nintendo NDS 276.418 25.12.2005
31. Dragon Ball Z: Bukuu Ressen Bandai NDS 267.345 25.06.2006
32. Mario Basket 3 on 3 Nintendo / Square Enix NDS 264.259 * 03.09.2006
33. SD Gundam G Generation Portable Bandai Namco PSP 241.242 * 03.09.2006
34. Winning Eleven 9 Konami PSP 233.276 26.02.2006
35. Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 Tomy NDS 212.655 25.12.2005
36. Touch! Catch! Yoshi Nintendo NDS 197.337 25.12.2005
37. Tales Of Eternia Namco PSP 193.458 25.12.2005
38. Kouchuu Ouja Mushi King: Greatest Champion.. Sega NDS 183.471 25.06.2006
39. Digimon Story Bandai Namco NDS 181.999 27.08.2006
40. Daigasso! Band Brothers Nintendo NDS 164.166 25.12.2005
41. Talkman Sony PSP 157.158 25.06.2006
42. Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth Square Enix PSP 151.798 25.06.2006
43. Super Princess Peach Nintendo NDS 142.684 25.12.2005
44. Densetsu no Stafi 4 Nintendo NDS 137.072 25.06.2006
45. Everybody's Golf Portable (The Best) Sony PSP 136.783 25.06.2006
46. Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu Portable Konami PSP 134.023 25.06.2006
47. Mahjong Fight Club Konami PSP 127.972 25.12.2005
48. Ape Escape Academy Sony PSP 127.679 25.12.2005
49. Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai Bandai PSP 123.903 25.06.2006
50. Power Pro Kun Pocket 8 Konami NDS 122.264 25.06.2006
51. Naruto RPG 2: Chidori vs. Rasengan Tomy NDS 121.321 25.12.2005
52. Metal Gear Acid Konami PSP 118.553 25.12.2005
53. Kotoba no Puzzle Mojipittan Daijiten Namco PSP 115.349 25.12.2005
54. Sarugetchu P! Sony PSP 113.443 25.12.2005
55. EyeShield 21: Max Devil Power! Nintendo NDS 109.909 25.06.2006
56. Harvest Moon DS Marvelous NDS 106.230 25.12.2005
57. Another Code / Trace Memory Nintendo NDS 105.452 25.12.2005
58. Eiyuu Densetsu Gagharv Trilogy: Shiroki Majo Bandai PSP 103.834 25.12.2005
59. Doko Demo Issho Sony PSP 103.205 25.12.2005
60. Initial D Street Stage Sega PSP 102.775 25.06.2006
61. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Capcom NDS 101.902 25.12.2005
62. Project Rub / Feel The Magic: XY/XX Sega NDS 100.263 25.12.2005
63. Pac-Pix Namco NDS 98.650 25.12.2005
64. Harvest Moon DS for Girls Marvelous NDS 96.364 25.06.2005
65. Yu-Gi-Oh: Nightmare Troubadour Konami NDS 95.412 25.12.2005
66. Unou no Tatsujin: Soukai! Machigai Museum Namco NDS 95.122 25.06.2006
67. Polarium Nintendo NDS 94.947 25.12.2005
68. SD Gundam G Generation DS Bandai NDS 94.317 25.12.2005
69. Bleach DS Sega NDS 93.183 25.06.2006
70. Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshu 4 Tomy NDS 92.988 25.06.2006
71. Puzzle Series Vol. 3 Sudoku Hudson NDS 92.961 16.07.2006
72. Power Pocket Koushien Konami NDS 92.165 25.12.2005
73. Egg Monster Heroes Square Enix NDS 92.096 25.12.2005
74. LocoRoco Sony PSP 90.487 20.08.2006
75. Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Square Enix PSP 88.925 25.06.2006
76. Super Robot Taisen MX Portable Banpresto PSP 87.342 25.06.2006
77. Bleach: Heat the Soul Sony PSP 86.613 25.12.2005
78. Derby Stallion P Enterbrain PSP 86.585 27.08.2006
79. Kazuo Sony PSP 85.474 25.06.2006
80. Tekken Dark Resurrection Namco PSP 84.327 23.07.2006

(* = latest famitsu weekly top 30)

Any ds games with new data in that issues?

Barf_the_Mog · Sep 17, 2006

what the hell is Nintendo going to do for the remaining 3 months of the year? North America will probably gobble up 3 million units - same with Europe. Japan will most likely sell closer to 4 million units. :-/

= 10 million units

They can produce 2.2 million per month. 2.2 * 3.5 = 7.7 million

10 million
- 7.7 million
= 2.3 million shortage

Grampa Simpson · Sep 17, 2006

NCL must be pretty frustrated at this point. They know they could sell twice as many a week as they can produce, but didn't want to invest in increased manufacturing capability because there is no precedent for this kind of demand to last much past the new year. Wow.

thestopsign · Sep 17, 2006

Barf_the_Mog said:
what the hell is Nintendo going to do for the remaining 3 months of the year? North America will probably gobble up 3 million units - same with Europe. Japan will most likely sell closer to 4 million units. :-/

= 10 million units

They can produce 2.2 million per month. 2.2 * 3.5 = 7.7 million

10 million
- 7.7 million
= 2.3 million shortage

I'm betting Nintendo has been stockpiling in both Europe and North America. You can see that in the Japan weekly shipments of around 150,000. They produce around 550,000 a week, and I know America and Europe aren't selling 400,000 a week.

Busaiku · Sep 17, 2006

Stopsign said:
I'm betting Nintendo has been stockpiling in both Europe and North America. You can see that in the Japan weekly shipments of around 150,000. They produce around 550,000 a week, and I know America and Europe aren't selling 400,000 a week.

Last we got of Europe (weekly sales) was 140,000/week (from Nintendo), this was a few weeks ago though (or month or something).

verplant · Sep 17, 2006

Busaiku said:
Last we got of Europe (weekly sales) was 140,000/week (from Nintendo), this was a few weeks ago though (or month or something).

last info was "over 100,000/week" on wii preview pk (london).

BorkBork · Sep 18, 2006

Still, the production rate's not really enough to stockpile a significant amount with global demand.

Square2005 · Sep 18, 2006

Early Comgnet unofficial estimates are in!
9/11~9/17:

Code:

[U]		                Raw	Formula	Estimated	Estimated LTD:[/U]
1   Everybody's Tennis	961	*240	231,000	NEW
2   &#12427;&#12429;&#12358;&#12395;&#21091;&#24515;-&#26126;&#27835;&#21091;&#23458;&#28010;&#28459;&#35674;-...	402	*240	96,000	NEW
[B]3   Final Fantasy III	105	*870	91,000	689,000[/B]
4   New Super Mario Bros.	97	*550	53,000	3,080,000
5   Brain Training 2	                41	*800	33,000	3,185,000
6   Godhand	                121	*240	29,000	NEW
7   Rhythm &#22825;&#22269;	                43	*430	18,000	166,000
8   Animal Forest	                36	*500	18,000	3,224,000
9   &#33075;&#24180;&#40802; &#33075;&#12473;&#12488;&#12524;&#12473;&#35336;  	34	*500	17,000	NEW
10 Ridge Racers 2	                71	*210	15,000	NEW
11 Mario Basket 3 on 3	39	*370	14,000	302,000
12 Phantasy Star Universe	39	*280	11,000	152,000
13 Tales of Phantasia FMV	49	*210	10,000	76,000
14 Yu-Gi-Oh GX Tag Force	41	*210	9,000	NEW
15 G1 Jockey 4 2006	                32	*240	8,000	NEW

Sgt. Killjoy · Sep 18, 2006

wow at everybodys tennis

ethelred · Sep 18, 2006

Square2005 said:
Early Comgnet estimates are in!
9/11~9/17:

Your formula is... not that good.

Last week you were off 30k on Tales of Phantasia. You were off 20k on NSMB and 20k off on FF3. You were 3k too high on Brain Age 2, 6k too low on Cooking Navi...

Mrbob · Sep 18, 2006

Sgt. Killjoy said:
wow at everybodys tennis

Square 2005 is using his own estimates, which are fairly off from real numbers. I wish he wouldn't use his own numbers as official estimates.

Mr. Pointy · Sep 18, 2006

Square2005 said:

Early Comgnet estimates are in!
9/11~9/17:

Code:

[U]		                Raw	Formula	Estimated	Estimated LTD:[/U]
1   Everybody's Tennis	961	*240	231,000	NEW
2   &#12427;&#12429;&#12358;&#12395;&#21091;&#24515;-&#26126;&#27835;&#21091;&#23458;&#28010;&#28459;&#35674;-...	402	*240	96,000	NEW
[B]3   Final Fantasy III	105	*870	91,000	689,000[/B]
4   New Super Mario Bros.	97	*550	53,000	3,080,000
5   Brain Training 2	                41	*800	33,000	3,185,000
6   Godhand	                121	*240	29,000	NEW
7   Rhythm &#22825;&#22269;	                43	*430	18,000	166,000
8   Animal Forest	                36	*500	18,000	3,224,000
9   &#33075;&#24180;&#40802; &#33075;&#12473;&#12488;&#12524;&#12473;&#35336;  	34	*500	17,000	NEW
10 Ridge Racers 2	                71	*210	15,000	NEW
11 Mario Basket 3 on 3	39	*370	14,000	302,000
12 Phantasy Star Universe	39	*280	11,000	152,000
13 Tales of Phantasia FMV	49	*210	10,000	76,000
14 Yu-Gi-Oh GX Tag Force	41	*210	9,000	NEW
15 G1 Jockey 4 2006	                32	*240	8,000	NEW

Add about 30-50% to every number to get the Media Create number then.

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