rainking187
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Blu_LED said:
Speaking of midnight I know the answer is probably no, but anyone heard anything about a midnight launch?
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Metal Gear Solid 5 Peace Walker |OT| Peace Walking & Ad-HOC Partying
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Speaking of midnight I know the answer is probably no, but anyone heard anything about a midnight launch?
autobzooty
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What are the chances that I'll be able to grab Peace Walker off of PSN at midnight?
SlickVic said:
I guess they weren't managing their base properly. Contrary to what appears to be common belief, resource managing has impact on the gameplay, and the moment you notice that is precisely when you get your ass kicked from one of the bosses. Having a quicker reload RPG, a good set of smoke nades or a powered up, silenced weapon has huge impact on survival chances.
autobzooty
Member
Boney said:
Are you asking how to do it or how the software functions?
If the former, just load up the software, make a lobby and start your PSP's local multiplayer as if the person was right next to you. The PS3 will handle the rest.
If the latter, it's not that crazy. The PSP games which don't have an interface for working online can't set it up, so Adhoc Party basically is just a universal interface to handle the same thing. Similar to how you can play N64, SNES, NES, and other old systems online using emulators. It's still emulating the local environment, but just tunneling it online. Hell, you could even play the few Gamecube games that supported LAN online if you used a little elbow grease.
alr1ghtstart said:
Why wouldn't it? ad-hoc wifi is a standard of the wifi protocol. Sony can't fuck with it to put a firmware check in without breaking a bunch of old games + pissing off people that use that protocol.
TTP said:
Yes, but how's the gunplay? The demo's aiming system is thing that pisses me off about an otherwise stellar experience.
Square Triangle said:
Well, at least the good news is that there is only one copy left. Hopefully the bought
irated ratio is more toward bought so Kojima/Konami/whoever can make more good PSP games. auto said:
*thisis
Lower your expectations. Try... Wednesday afternoon, going by the rate they don't have a standard update time and how fucking stupid they are with the weekly store updates.
And I'm in that boat as well, any future PSP games I'm buying are/must be on PSN if they're new games.
What pisses you off about it? Turn up the aiming sensitivity to start.TheSeks said:Why wouldn't it? ad-hoc wifi is a standard of the wifi protocol. Sony can't fuck with it to put a firmware check in without breaking a bunch of old games + pissing off people that use that protocol.
Yes, but how's the gunplay? The demo's aiming system is thing that pisses me off about an otherwise stellar experience.
Well, at least the good news is that there is only one copy left. Hopefully the bought
Y2Kev said:
The face buttons being used for aiming (action) is pretty stupid and imprecise IMO.
Going Action/MPO control scheme doesn't let you aim/move like action and moves the aim system from the buttons to the D-pad (better, but still not great).
It's like they had to go completely stupid on the gunplay system from Port Ops emulating MGS3 over MGS4.
PSPGo launch didn't even go up at midnight. It was one of the rare store updates to update at NOON like Britain does (but Britain updates at 5PM Britain time opposed to my Noon EST).
TheSeks said:
Full disclosure that I like the system wherever it has been used (whether that be on the N64, Dreamcast, or PSP Syphon Filters), but I'm really stunned here. What exactly is the alternative? The Portable Ops control method is absolutely broken, and it didn't even work for Portable Ops. There's simply too much complexity in Metal Gear's controls.
There was a "curious" decision involved in Peace Walker's development (maybe you can guess), but it's not the various control schemes they offer the player. There isn't anything else they can offer. I mean what do you want them to do? Release a USB second nub?
Vamphuntr said:
Ohhhh shit.
That makes the game awesome for me. Why the hell didn't the demo mention this? Fuck me, forget I said anything. Game's awesome now (with the exception of not being able to move like action while aiming, but that's a minor complaint. At least I can hit shit with some accuracy/less annoyments now)
I disagree. I felt that Port Ops (while removing some things in MGS3) made good use of attempting to put most of MGS1-3's controls on the PSP.
And I'm one of the few that can't stand button aiming systems. Can't. It doesn't work in Metroid Prime: Hunters (then again, that was always a "PC like" control scheme with the touch-screen), it doesn't work in Resistance Retribution (IMO), it doesn't work in Syphon Filter PSP. It doesn't work anywhere for me. If I don't have the option to use the nub or the D-pad (though the D-pad here is pretty terrible, but that's the fault of the PSP-1000's more than anything), I won't pick up the game. It drives me bonkers trying to aim with the face buttons in the heat of battle.
Graphics Horse
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Vamphuntr said:
O_O I'm seeing action type in a whole new light now.
Did they find a way round the L/R screen when you need to change equipment in Action type? I hated that.
Graphics Horse said:
Probably not, but that doesn't really annoy me too much. Fumbling through the menu with the D-pad over the nub meanwhile does. But that isn't a huge deal. I can deal with it.
Edit: And really, how would they get around it? L is camera reset. D-pad is camera. Circle is the only button not used for something in action type that is used for the item/gun selection. So you having to circle->menu->L/R->menu is understandable.
Yenrot said:
Kojima realized that the US/EU is not as co-op focused, so he balanced the game for solo play. So yes, you don't miss out on anything if you don't play co-op.
Xlink Kai, but good fucking luck getting up to speed on their program with the shitty PSP support they have. And you can't play with ad-hoc party members.
Graphics Horse
Member
TheSeks said:
Not sure, O for items while R+O is weapons might have worked, but maybe a bit confusing.
It's the fact Snake stops while you hold O that makes it worse, with a bit of finger gymnastics you can run while changing weapons in Shooter Type.
Solid warrior
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look at me waiting for the game -->Teetris said:People are already getting the game? Fuck me
Synless
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I think he got it wrong, I believe that co-op is exactly what the US/EU likes and that instead of making balances for solo play he should have included infrastructure. It pisses me off that this late into the PSP's life cycle developers still can't get this shit right. He most likely could have cut down on piracy as well by adding a one-time activation code for the buyers of the new game.TheSeks said:
Graphics Horse said:
I could see that working, but R is also used for aiming/readying your weapon. So you'd have to fumble with pressing R+O at the right time to get the gun menu that way.
Solid warrior said:
I've been looking everywhere for that image. Do you have the whole "eye roll/squint/shake head".gif?
Synless said:
That's a two part.
1) I don't mean the US isn't focused on co-op. Just that in the US/EU it's hard for PSP owners to get together to ad-hoc unlike in Japan where it's easy and crazy popular to do for games like Monster Hunter.
2) He should've, but that's never discussed on his twitter on why they didn't and why many PSP games don't. Probably because it costs money to support the servers.
Two+ years later there is only like... 5-10 people playing online infrastructure in MPO/MPO+. Not very cost-efficient. I can't blame him if he did it to save costs in the long run.
However, if we bitch enough and there is a MGS6
W2, maybe Kojima will include it like Sega is doing for Phantasy Star Portable 2 (which, the lack of infrastructure in the first PSP was the hugest issue many people had with it).Solid warrior
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nope. sorry.TheSeks said:
Vamphuntr said:
I was going to say: on other PSP game launches (like NBA 10: The Inside and MLB The Show) when the PSN update was on Thursday, it seemed like they had those games up fairly early on Tuesday.
However, with the whole PSN update now on Tuesday, I'm guessing we'll see this on the PSN store anywhere around 2pm 5pm PDT (per usual).
Square Triangle
Member
Idk about all the pirated vs. bought ratio, PS Blog made a post on Facebook asking who is getting the UMD or PSN version and a lot of asshats said "The free pirated one"
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autobzooty
Member
Square Triangle said:
On the bright side, at least Sony seems aware of the fact that lots of people want it on PSN, so hopefully they won't screw up and put it up on Wednesday or something. Although PSN updates on Tuesdays now anyways, so that kinda helps. I'm still hoping they go all out and do a midnight PSN release though.
Square Triangle said:
:lol :lol :lol I'm sorry, I know it's bad. Just the thought of people publicly admitting to piracy on an official fanpage for a company is funny to me. (Also LOL FAILBOOK)
That's a bad sign. I seriously hope the game sells, but I don't hold out hopes. The PSP is a leaky sieve when it comes to game sales.
overthehill99
Member
Just though I'd remind everyone now,
EVERY SINGLE SPOILER NEEDS TO BE TAGGED. NO MATTER HOW BIG OR SMALL, EVEN IF IT IS JUST A LOCATION SPOILER. TAG EVERYTHING.
Please don't ruin this for us.
EVERY SINGLE SPOILER NEEDS TO BE TAGGED. NO MATTER HOW BIG OR SMALL, EVEN IF IT IS JUST A LOCATION SPOILER. TAG EVERYTHING.
Please don't ruin this for us.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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TheSeks said:
For even more lulz, imagine the reaction when I told the guys on PSN I was playing with I do copyright law (which I do) and there surprise and (minor) mocking that I got the UMD version.
Even the new Monster Hunter is going to include infrastructure. I totally wish I could be playing the game with others right now.TheSeks said:However, if we bitch enough and there is a MGS6
Vamphuntr said:
I don't think that really would have changed piracy numbers. Game still has ad-hoc. They can just use ad-hoc party to get around this limitation. Big deal.
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That, too.
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Deadly said:
It took two outings on the PSP for that to happen though. Developers won't do it unless we MAKE them do it. :/
overthehill99
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Indeed.-viper- said: