Graphics Horse
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Branson said:
You only need the
jetpack
rail gun
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Metal Gear Solid 5 Peace Walker |OT| Peace Walking & Ad-HOC Partying
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You only need the
mrkapawutzis
Member
Graphics Horse said:
I don't think you need the
jetpack
rail gun and armor
Infinite Justice
Member
mrkapawutzis said:
How do you get the optionals?
Do you have to hit them or leave them alone and hope the game gives it to you?
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
Is there a list or a Wiki out there for all the "prizes" that you get from S Ranking Extra Ops ? Or how about what Confidenital Docs that you can find in Extra Ops?
I've noticed a few times I stumbled across Conf. Docs in missions where you aren't specifically collecting them. I end up wondering how many I've missed because I haven't been paying attention or fully exploring each area.
I've noticed a few times I stumbled across Conf. Docs in missions where you aren't specifically collecting them. I end up wondering how many I've missed because I haven't been paying attention or fully exploring each area.
bodyofanamerican
Member
Just finished it. Wow. Definitely better than MGS3, unimaginable as that was when I started it.
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
Wow I just got to the mission where you fight the big Cocoon thing... I saved it there, leave it for tomorrow. Thing looks epic!
I wish there were some human boss fights, but every single new machine thing I fight is pretty neat.
I wish there were some human boss fights, but every single new machine thing I fight is pretty neat.
Augemitbutter
Member
the animations on the bosses are amazing.
don't get crushed!
don't get crushed!
Infinite Justice
Member
Just finished and very nice.
Once
.
Nice ending too
Once
Heavens Divide started to play when fighting the heli got really awesome. The music while fighting peace walker was awesome as well
Nice ending too
Augemitbutter
Member
yes, but you're not done yet.
Infinite Justice
Member
Augemitbutter said:
I know but it was still great.
plus i saw
"Beyond the Bounds" (The theme song from ZOE2) in the credits
Augemitbutter
Member
get a better walkman through R&D and you should be able to listen to it.
Infinite Justice
Member
Augemitbutter said:
Forgot about the walkman :lol
Its there, thanks
and
Zeke's now alive, ALIVE, BHWAHAHAHAHA
DualShadow
Member
I'm getting over the vehicle extra ops fights now, way to many of them and they are bullet/rocket sponges.
Would have benefited from scaling bosses depending on how many people are co-oping it.
Would have benefited from scaling bosses depending on how many people are co-oping it.
autobzooty
Member
i_am_not_jon_ames said:
MGS3 still holds the title of my favorite MGS game, but Peace Walker is right behind it, which truly shocked me.
I'm 45 hours in and I wanna keep playing, but it's just too hard for me....I don't know how to proceed anymore...
Blue Submarine No. 6
Member
you do know that you can "cheat" outer ops results, right?sotodefonk said:
If you come back from a mission and go to check out your outer ops and you don't like the outer ops combat results, just return to the title screen, reload from save, and then look at the outer ops results again... They seem to be generated on the fly when you go to review the results, so they can change for or against you when you look at them again without saving... If I loose too much hardware, I just keep reloading/reviewing until I get a result I can live with...
sotodefonk
Member
Blue Submarine No. 6 said:
weird it never crossed my mind :lol Anyway got a few MBTK70[C] and finally started to beat these missions. I just lost a couple of vehicles, which is fine I guess...
Funny the first mission I passed (If I remember correctly it was capture the base 04 S++) And I got the SVG with night googles docs with the battle suit w/helmet
I guess Im luckyAnyway, just 3 to get the insignia
one major story point i'm having trouble grasping regarding past history between the boss and snake:
i thought he found out at the end of MGS3 that the boss didn't defect, that Volgin fired the nuke and she sacrified herself for her country. then he bailed out of america. but... in PW it seems like he forgot the truth and is trying to figure out the truth about her all over again. does the game explain this apparent lapse of memory or is he just hiding the truth from everyone else?
Chip N Chance
Member
The score in the game (Mostly during the codec conversations) sounds very much like The Dark Knight. I just recently noticed it. Anyone else hear the resemblance?
Augemitbutter
Member
no clue, but it's definitely the weakest MGS soundtrack so far.
Graphics Horse
Member
Chip N Chance said:
No idea how close it is but that was my first thought too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZHVTBY46m4
Chip N Chance
Member
That's the jam I'm referring to. It's almost to close to what's in TDK, for me. Still sounds ok though. In terms of the games soundtrack, it's not the best in the series IMO. But still better then most games.Graphics Horse said:
Infinite Justice
Member
zurra said:
I guess he started to have doubts over the 10 years which crept up once she came "back from the dead"
RelentlessRolento
Member
so after the
real ending it's basicially saying that dr strangelove is otacon's mom?
autobzooty
Member
Augemitbutter said:
Really? It's one of my favorites in the series for sure.
DualShadow
Member
Drac said:They did
Well that's just crazy then :lol
sotodefonk
Member
Salaadin said:
you sleep them or make them to freeze and hope the tank kill them when it pass above them. That, or develop fulton mines / fulton gustav
Infinite Justice
Member
RelentlessRolento said:
it looks like it, especially if you add the briefing tapes into it.
Graphics Horse
Member
Salaadin said:
You'll need
Fulton Mines which let you extract up to another 20 soldiers if you use them well
There's also a
Fulton C.Gustav which even gets extra ammo in supply drops
infinityBCRT
Member
Disagree. The cutscenes and codec sequences had some great music. MGS2 (post-tanker chapter) was probably the weakest for me.Augemitbutter said:
paperheart
Banned
Oh gosh...
I can't seem to beat Peace Walker the second time around, when she's trying to launch the nuke. I hit it with rockets from the RPG and LAW, I have Mother Base strike it from above, and I place C4 where she sometimes goes. Am I doing something wrong, or is there some other tactic I'm not using? The way I'm doing it right now, I run out of RPG and LAW ammo before I even take it down. I'm primarily focusing on the AI Pod, which has worked before, so I don't think I'm doing that wrong. Although, when I call Huey on the Codec, he says focus on the legs, but I'm not sure if he is right or not.
Valkyr Junkie
Member
lastinline said:
A) Use the lock-on rocket launcher
B) Aim for the pod
C) Use resupply marker to refill your ammo. You will need to do this several times during the fight.
DualShadow
Member
lastinline said:
Try and upgrade your rockets, use supply marker, and I found using a heavy/large machine gun helped do some decent damage.
Infinite Justice
Member
lastinline said:
Aim for the pod
Use Rockets but beware there is a time limit
Use a machine gun as a last resort and pray
Also use supply markers to get more ammo and rations
As for what huey says it might be true since it actually slumps over for a bit if you stop it
Valkyr Junkie
Member
lastinline said:
Also, I forgot to mention chaff grenades. They make all bosses of that type immediately freak out, so I'm not sure if they stop the launch as well.
semiconscious
Member
lastinline said:
another vote for upgrading weapons - i found redoing previous bosses repeatedly just in order to do that very helpful (tho also kinda boring
)...paperheart
Banned
Thanks for the help ya'll. Yeah, I think I need to upgrade my RPG and LAW indeed. I used Chaff Grenades on it when it did it's defense, but I only have so many Chaff Grenades. Going to have to upgrade it as well for it to last longer I suppose. Then, when I would ask for supplies, I would get quite a bit of supplies, but I would just keep hitting it and it would take all my ammo. I got to the point where I didn't have any Supply Markers left and the boss still had quite a bit of life left. I had no problems with bosses or enemies before this battle, but I guess I should have been upgrading my weapons as much as I could along the way. Again, thanks for the advice, I appreciate it.
Yeah, I think I need to upgrade my RPG and LAW indeed. I used Chaff Grenades on it when it did it's defense, but I only have so many Chaff Grenades. Going to have to upgrade it as well for it to last longer I suppose. Then, when I would ask for supplies, I would get quite a bit of supplies, but I would just keep hitting it and it would take all my ammo. I got to the point where I didn't have any Supply Markers left and the boss still had quite a bit of life left. I had no problems with bosses or enemies before this battle, but I guess I should have been upgrading my weapons as much as I could along the way. Again, thanks for the advice, I appreciate it.Augemitbutter
Member
good to see people enjoy the OST.
i don't think it's bad, especially not if you compare it to other games, there are some good themes farther into the game, but there's nothing memorable because they try to implement a movie soudtrack into MGS.
the vocal song is nice, but it can't touch those in MGS1 and Portable Ops.
i don't think it's bad, especially not if you compare it to other games, there are some good themes farther into the game, but there's nothing memorable because they try to implement a movie soudtrack into MGS.
the vocal song is nice, but it can't touch those in MGS1 and Portable Ops.
RelentlessRolento
Member
Augemitbutter said:
pretty much this.
Now I can honestly say while Portable Ops Plus wasn't that great, I'd love to see Peace Walker Plus.
bernardobri
Steve, the dog with no powers that we let hang out with us all for some reason
Augemitbutter said:
Hmm, what? That's happening since MGS2 with the inclusion of Harry Gregson-Williams, and honestly it's a great approach into the series. Along with Hibino and Toda, they have delivered great soundtracks in 2, 3 and 4. Maybe MPO didn't have a good score, but PW's OST is not far at all from MGS2/3/4's OSTs.
So I'm replaying Portable Ops just to see how it stacks up to this, since I haven't touched it in a while.
And wow, does it feel weird. The default controls are borderline absurd, but got a little better when I tried to replicate Peace Walker's control scheme. This way movement is mapped to the analog stick, camera controls are mapped to the face buttons, up doubles as the action and stalking button, right equals the inventory button, down is crouch/crawl, and left is lock-on or something. The L button is for first-person aiming and R is for attacking.
This feels so much better than it did the first time I played it. I can't believe I originally played through it with the default control scheme, for 25 hours no less, controlling the d-pad camera and the analog stick with the same effing hand. No wonder my hand was so cramped and I could only play it for an hour at a time.
That said, this method isn't flawless. It really only works when you're going a bit slower, head-shooting enemies from a distance. I had to tweak it a bit during the battle with Python, setting auto-aim to the L button since first-person aiming was doing nothing for me and holding the left directional button was tedious. Douple-tapping the down button is also kind of awkward for rolling, and being forced to still use the analog stick to aim in first-person mode is kind of awkward, but other than that playing the game this way has been a breeze.
Another criticism I have is that the map layouts are kind of atrocious. They're proportioned like they are in the console titles, but at the same time they're so tiny, and I always have this boxed-in feeling. Navigating the camera controls to a satisfying degree in these closed quarters is such a bitch because I always feel like the camera is bouncing off and behind held back by some nearby barrier. Peace Walker did a much better job in this regard by having wide open areas and thus plenty of room to operate the camera and move around in. Like so much of Portable Ops's game design, it feels like they ripped the general structure of these areas out of a console game without considering how they would translate to handheld play.
Another massive improvement Peace Walker has over Portable Ops is its team-building set-up. Dragging enemies back to a truck is such a pain in the ass, and I'm thankful I don't have to do very much of this, as the game has a New Game+-esque feature that allows you to start the game from the beginning with all your recruits and equipment. Navigating the team management stuff is also pretty unwieldy, what with the icons representing the recruits' strengths not being very clear. For some reason the bar representing these is full of vague combat-related symbols, while at the end there is a hat(?) and a cross, the latter obviously displaying abilities in regards to medical skill.
Since the game has four "units" (sneaking, spy, technical and medical) I assumed the bulk of the combat-related symbols represented sneaking, while the weird zig-zag symbol represented technical skill. That left the hat(?) and cross, which I thought showed proficency in the spy and medical teams. In reality, the zig-zag displayed proficency in making traps and the "hat" represented technical skill. Spies don't have any identifying marker in the main menu, as instead you have to select each and every character to see if they are listed as 'Arms Dealer,' 'Spy,' or 'Surveyor.' Now admittedly I could have checked the manual earlier, but that doesn't change the fact that this is a terrible and confusing system. If there are four units, there should be four icons representing skill in said units. And since the units themselves already have icons of their own (footprints for Sneaking Unit, ear for Spy Unit, wrench for Technical Unit and cross for Medical Unit), would it have killed them to at least use the same ones for each recruit's skills? After all, medical uses the same for both. Why, then, is technical an undentifiable hat-like object and not a freaking wrench? God, am I glad that Peace Walker streamlined that.
I think I'm going to be able to wrap it up tomorrow, which is weird because I just started it a few hours ago. Without recruiting or taking on the fetch quests assigned to you by the spy team this game is ridiculously short and simple. Which I guess makes sense since it's supposed to be kind of mission-based and you're supposed to spend a large amount of your time on the first playthrough recruiting members, but the (lack of) variety of missions doesn't really incentivize you to do so. Peace Walker's were so fun. I wanted to do everything. But here I'm supposed to get excited that my spy unit found found some medical kits in a hospital? Um, yay?
And that's about it, really. But I still have to gripe about one thing: the Python battle. Seriously, all I did was lock onto him, circle around him, and shoot. With a Mk. 22. What kind of battle is that?
/Ranty wall of text
Sorry about that.
And wow, does it feel weird. The default controls are borderline absurd, but got a little better when I tried to replicate Peace Walker's control scheme. This way movement is mapped to the analog stick, camera controls are mapped to the face buttons, up doubles as the action and stalking button, right equals the inventory button, down is crouch/crawl, and left is lock-on or something. The L button is for first-person aiming and R is for attacking.
This feels so much better than it did the first time I played it. I can't believe I originally played through it with the default control scheme, for 25 hours no less, controlling the d-pad camera and the analog stick with the same effing hand. No wonder my hand was so cramped and I could only play it for an hour at a time.
That said, this method isn't flawless. It really only works when you're going a bit slower, head-shooting enemies from a distance. I had to tweak it a bit during the battle with Python, setting auto-aim to the L button since first-person aiming was doing nothing for me and holding the left directional button was tedious. Douple-tapping the down button is also kind of awkward for rolling, and being forced to still use the analog stick to aim in first-person mode is kind of awkward, but other than that playing the game this way has been a breeze.
Another criticism I have is that the map layouts are kind of atrocious. They're proportioned like they are in the console titles, but at the same time they're so tiny, and I always have this boxed-in feeling. Navigating the camera controls to a satisfying degree in these closed quarters is such a bitch because I always feel like the camera is bouncing off and behind held back by some nearby barrier. Peace Walker did a much better job in this regard by having wide open areas and thus plenty of room to operate the camera and move around in. Like so much of Portable Ops's game design, it feels like they ripped the general structure of these areas out of a console game without considering how they would translate to handheld play.
Another massive improvement Peace Walker has over Portable Ops is its team-building set-up. Dragging enemies back to a truck is such a pain in the ass, and I'm thankful I don't have to do very much of this, as the game has a New Game+-esque feature that allows you to start the game from the beginning with all your recruits and equipment. Navigating the team management stuff is also pretty unwieldy, what with the icons representing the recruits' strengths not being very clear. For some reason the bar representing these is full of vague combat-related symbols, while at the end there is a hat(?) and a cross, the latter obviously displaying abilities in regards to medical skill.
Since the game has four "units" (sneaking, spy, technical and medical) I assumed the bulk of the combat-related symbols represented sneaking, while the weird zig-zag symbol represented technical skill. That left the hat(?) and cross, which I thought showed proficency in the spy and medical teams. In reality, the zig-zag displayed proficency in making traps and the "hat" represented technical skill. Spies don't have any identifying marker in the main menu, as instead you have to select each and every character to see if they are listed as 'Arms Dealer,' 'Spy,' or 'Surveyor.' Now admittedly I could have checked the manual earlier, but that doesn't change the fact that this is a terrible and confusing system. If there are four units, there should be four icons representing skill in said units. And since the units themselves already have icons of their own (footprints for Sneaking Unit, ear for Spy Unit, wrench for Technical Unit and cross for Medical Unit), would it have killed them to at least use the same ones for each recruit's skills? After all, medical uses the same for both. Why, then, is technical an undentifiable hat-like object and not a freaking wrench? God, am I glad that Peace Walker streamlined that.
I think I'm going to be able to wrap it up tomorrow, which is weird because I just started it a few hours ago. Without recruiting or taking on the fetch quests assigned to you by the spy team this game is ridiculously short and simple. Which I guess makes sense since it's supposed to be kind of mission-based and you're supposed to spend a large amount of your time on the first playthrough recruiting members, but the (lack of) variety of missions doesn't really incentivize you to do so. Peace Walker's were so fun. I wanted to do everything. But here I'm supposed to get excited that my spy unit found found some medical kits in a hospital? Um, yay?
And that's about it, really. But I still have to gripe about one thing: the Python battle. Seriously, all I did was lock onto him, circle around him, and shoot. With a Mk. 22. What kind of battle is that?
/Ranty wall of text
Sorry about that.
Augemitbutter
Member
bernardobri said:
yes, they tried to bring in movie flair with HGW, but even then, look at the boss battle themes and classic arrangements, you can hear plenty of those on both MGS2 and 3. MGS4 had a few good non movie themes from HGW, raidens theme and old snake was glorious.
and that's why portable ops was so great, we had alot of classic MGS influences and no HGW, just a few arrangements.
Sorry if it's been posted before (this thread is massive)
Do I have to beat the game to unlock
I have seen the condition to unlock them from the Japanese version but unsure if it's still in the US version of the game since I cant get it to work.
Do I have to beat the game to unlock
Monster Hunter ops and A.Creeds' hay box?
I have seen the condition to unlock them from the Japanese version but unsure if it's still in the US version of the game since I cant get it to work.
Itchy//Tasty
Member
Finally finished Chapter 5! Amazing stuff. One criticism:
game needs more Ocelot