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Metal Gear Solid HD Collection |OT| The Naked, the Solid and the Lightning
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Toonami 99
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Does anyone know how many disks the 360 version is?
I also wouldn't mind a remake of MG 1 and 2 this gen.
I also wouldn't mind a remake of MG 1 and 2 this gen.
Lupin the Third
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SolidSnakex said:
That scene never bothered me, really.
To each their own.
AgentOtaku
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Toonami 99 said:
Believe it's 2 discs for 360 version.
I said, "WHAT."SolidSnakex said:
The problem with Twin Snakes is that it seems like a remake that altered the feel of the game. No one bitches about Resident Evil remake because it added and elevated the design and atmosphere that already existed, not altering it in some odd way.
TTS is its own beast. It's not worth comparing.
I always look at the game as an alternate take on MGS1. I just fear that Konami looks at it as "we already remade MGS1".
Has anyone tried playing MGS1 on PSP? I wonder how well the controls transfer over seeing as there are two shoulder buttons missing.
I always look at the game as an alternate take on MGS1. I just fear that Konami looks at it as "we already remade MGS1".
Has anyone tried playing MGS1 on PSP? I wonder how well the controls transfer over seeing as there are two shoulder buttons missing.
Red Blaster
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Lupin the Wolf said:
Because we didn't see Big Boss doing flips in MGS3.
lolololololol Kojima does this all the fucking time, he doesn't give a shit about consistency.
Lupin the Third
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Arklite said:
I think this is a valid point. Twin Snakes definitely has a different overall "feel" than the original game. I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets, but I concede it's a different experience.
Gameplay-wise, though, TTS is almost completely better, though. Really, who wants to go back to having to equip the keycard EVERY time you want to use a door?
GrayFoxPL
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Wario64 said:Transfarring in MGS3 manual, despite MGS3's menus having no transfarring selection
"On the go"
Walking and gaming can be pretty dangerous. I can imagine someone playing vita totally blind on what's going around walking on a street, lucky dodging cars and then falling in a manhole or shit.
R
Retro_
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JohngPR said:
They did
I'm fine with it that way since there's no way to remake MGS1 with it still being MGS1 in the end. Gameplay is too archaic.
but that's ok because the original will always exist and is still worth playing even today. Remake is unnecessary
You can map different buttons in the PS1 emulator though so it actually works pretty well.
I'm about to replay it on my PSP while waiting for my collection.
Yeah people always are quick to bring up the same gameplay design flaws to criticize it(OCELOT) but fail to recognize the things it changed for the better from the original.
As much as I like MGS1 the backtracking for the PSG-1 and temperature keycard sucks and is not fun and I was glad that TTS lessened both of those.
I wouldn't say it was flat out better than the original, but it's a decent game and worth playing
Lupin the Third
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RedSwirl said:
I used to wonder why he hadn't done so sooner. I wonder if because "MG SOLID" is named so (according to Kojima) partly because it's 3D is part of it. If it's 2D, it's always been something else: Ghost Babel on GBC, for example. No "Solid" there (except outside Japan). Maybe he doesn't want to go there in part because he doesn't know what he would name them? Also, they would be another huge drain on his personal energy and resources.
It also doesn't help that a lot of things found in MG1 and 2 were already done in MGS1: the Hind D rooftop battle, for instance.
Lupin the Wolf said:
Just a couple of flips. lol right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5-vAf2_PCA&t=3m48s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5-vAf2_PCA&t=6m17s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtNSfMHufLs&t=3m
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH0XlsbEw4o&t=47s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH0XlsbEw4o&t=2m56s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH0XlsbEw4o&t=8m15s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_Evzf6Z41c&t=5m28s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-UttPuRScU&t=2m18s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl8U5BiU0q8&t=6s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc6m4322PtI&t=30s
That is not Solid Snake. That is a Gray Fox/Cyborg Raiden/Vamp wannabe. Bull shit gymnastics like that are not in Snake's character, at all, and were completely unnecessary. But hey, who cares? That shit is totally bomb, yo!
Lupin the Third
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SamuraiX- said:
You're right. There were more than two flips apparently. Congratulations.
Red Blaster
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Chinner said:
From my point of view, the jedi are evil.
Lupin the Third
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SamuraiX- said:
I conceded that I was wrong about the regularity of the flips. I already said it was probably a little out of character for him. You're trying to prove there's some "order of magnitude" difference here between "a little out of character" and "way out of character" and frankly that's not an issue for me. I mentioned the one scene that I thought was too over-the-top (hangar door sideflip), but I thought the rest were fine in the context of the rest of the game.
Basically, I didn't feel I needed to respond to that part, so why would I quote it? Selective quoting is kinda par for the course on GAF anyway. Shouldn't you instead take confidence in how right you were in that I didn't feel the need to contest it?
EDIT: In other words, I didn't include it because I simply can't argue against it. I don't think it's as extreme as you say it is, but that's a matter of taste and opinion we simply won't see eye-to-eye on, so there's no point in us going on about it. I only included the list of links because I was wrong about that and congratulated you on calling me out on my poor memory.
R
Retro_
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Chinner said:
exactly that more or less
atleast that's what it was about initially. Shit has gone completely besides the point since then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl8U5BiU0q8&t=6s
This one bothered me so much. It's like, why is this shit necessary.
This one bothered me so much. It's like, why is this shit necessary.
Lupin the Third
Member
Wario64 said:
Same here. That was easily the worst one of the lot, IMHO. Kinda unintentionally funny though.
EDIT: Like, couldn't he have just climbed around on the railing? That was a NEW feature of the game, after all. I can see why just running by the door was too risky (that's how it was in the original), but a side-flip? It was just silly.
AgentOtaku
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Wario64 said:
W T F !?
I didn't even remember this LOL
RuinerPrime
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Didnt realize people hated MGS4 so much...it being one of my fav game, other then 3
King of the Potato People
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Great games. It's going to be interesting to see how a new generation handles MGS2, I still don't know how to.
"I hear it's amazing when the famous purple stuffed worm in flap-jaw space with the tuning fork does a raw blink on Hara-Kiri Rock."
"I hear it's amazing when the famous purple stuffed worm in flap-jaw space with the tuning fork does a raw blink on Hara-Kiri Rock."
Lupin the Third
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Emily Chu said:
I really hate to say it, but the thought crossed my mind that Kojima approved of the changes to Twin Snakes because it was a little sandbox he could do whatever with and it wouldn't matter. Like, sure he fixed the voice acting problems but the changes to the cutscenes were sorta drastic at points and I understand some of the contention over it.
Maybe he thought, "well, this one doesn't matter anyway, so just go nuts, Mr. Kitamura!"
Lifejumper
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Wario64 said:
LMAO
SolidSnakex
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Wario64 said:
Another "What's the point" cutscene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4CTBIo0Mxk#t=2m40s
Net_Wrecker
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Wario64 said:
Holy crap rofl
I COMPLETELY forgot how over the top TTS was.
Messypandas
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SamuraiX- said:
Ha. watching this with captions Ocelots called "Revolver Bust a nut" LOL google
SLEEPS7ALK3R
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SamuraiX- said:
The slo-mo dramatic magnetic grenade to 'splode the flying piece of beam (because moving out of the way is so white-collar) did it for me.
Going back through it, some of the flips remind me of Rinzler in TRON: Legacy :lol
Lupin the Third
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jett said:
I actually also prefer the voice acting in the original, too.
But Mei Ling was an American-born character, so the thick Chinese accent made no sense. I don't remember Naomi's backstory, but I guess she wasn't supposed to have an English accent, either. Also, some poorly translated lines in the original got fixed, but the delivery of those lines wasn't always as good as the PSX version's. Kind of a shame.
PhoenixSFT
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Man, I love Twin Snakes, though it was my first time playing a Metal Gear game. I remember being so psyched that it was coming to the GameCube.
I then went on to beat MGS2 on my PC. Haven't played any other Metal Gear's though, so that's why I'm picking this up. One of my friends is always shocked that I haven't played MGS3.
I then went on to beat MGS2 on my PC. Haven't played any other Metal Gear's though, so that's why I'm picking this up. One of my friends is always shocked that I haven't played MGS3.